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Ooo, check this out:
http://tinyurl.com/67c4p8
Intel Pentium II? IBM harddisks? And a wiring job that looks like
something I'd have in my bedroom? Heh. How far they have come...
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Le 05/03/2012 12:26, Invisible a écrit :
> Ooo, check this out:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/67c4p8
>
> Intel Pentium II? IBM harddisks? And a wiring job that looks like
> something I'd have in my bedroom? Heh. How far they have come...
Cases are for <insert typical minority group here>, look at the
motherboards bending under the weight of the pair of hard disks.
No cases, flying motherboards everywhere, running threads and flying
nude switches and yet enough money to get a HP networking rack on top.
One hand looks very professional and clean solution, the other hand is
so DIY.
I guess it's like putting a home-made top case on a racing car, F1
style. With fancy stickers of flower on it.
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On 05/03/2012 11:56 AM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> No cases, flying motherboards everywhere, running threads and flying
> nude switches and yet enough money to get a HP networking rack on top.
Uh, yeah. Last time I checked, HP equipment isn't cheap...
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Le 2012/03/05 06:56, Le_Forgeron a écrit :
> Le 05/03/2012 12:26, Invisible a écrit :
>> Ooo, check this out:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/67c4p8
>>
>> Intel Pentium II? IBM harddisks? And a wiring job that looks like
>> something I'd have in my bedroom? Heh. How far they have come...
>
>
> Cases are for<insert typical minority group here>, look at the
> motherboards bending under the weight of the pair of hard disks.
>
> No cases, flying motherboards everywhere, running threads and flying
> nude switches and yet enough money to get a HP networking rack on top.
> One hand looks very professional and clean solution, the other hand is
> so DIY.
>
> I guess it's like putting a home-made top case on a racing car, F1
> style. With fancy stickers of flower on it.
Who said only pairs of HDs? For all we know, and see, there could be 4
of them on each motherboards...
I agree, rack mounting normal motherboards is not the brightest idea.
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On 05/03/2012 18:47, Alain wrote:
> I agree, rack mounting normal motherboards is not the brightest idea.
OTOH, it seems that any equipment that says "rack mountable" on it is
instantly 5x the price, for no apparent reason...
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Le 05/03/2012 19:47, Alain nous fit lire :
>
> Who said only pairs of HDs? For all we know, and see, there could be 4
> of them on each motherboards...
>
> I agree, rack mounting normal motherboards is not the brightest idea.
Pay attention to the image. There is 2 motherboards per layer (visible,
back to back), each with its Pentium II, and a PCI Ethernet card (1
slot). Above the motherboards, there is 2 disks, one for each motherboard.
Now, given the number of switchs & leds, I wonder if there is not a
deeper set of motherboards (for a total of 4 or 5 per layer), or that
just some small powerunits.
There is only 2 memory slots filled out of the 3 available. The hard
disks are on the mezzanine on top of them. (well, it's a bit of
wood/cardboard
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Le 2012-03-05 14:42, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
> On 05/03/2012 18:47, Alain wrote:
>> I agree, rack mounting normal motherboards is not the brightest idea.
>
> OTOH, it seems that any equipment that says "rack mountable" on it is
> instantly 5x the price, for no apparent reason...
Of course, the engineering that goes in designing the special connectors
to power and manage these boards, as well as keep them ventilated comes
free of charge, in your world...
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 19:54:03 -0500, Francois Labreque wrote:
> Le 2012-03-05 14:42, Orchid Win7 v1 a écrit :
>> On 05/03/2012 18:47, Alain wrote:
>>> I agree, rack mounting normal motherboards is not the brightest idea.
>>
>> OTOH, it seems that any equipment that says "rack mountable" on it is
>> instantly 5x the price, for no apparent reason...
>
> Of course, the engineering that goes in designing the special connectors
> to power and manage these boards, as well as keep them ventilated comes
> free of charge, in your world...
Along with hot-pluggable redundancy in power supplies and in some cases
even the controllers plugged into the system (hot-plug PCI anyone?).
Jim
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On 3/5/2012 3:26, Invisible wrote:
> Ooo, check this out:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/67c4p8
"Imagine a college freshman made out of gigabytes. This would be his dorm room."
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
People tell me I am the counter-example.
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>> OTOH, it seems that any equipment that says "rack mountable" on it is
>> instantly 5x the price, for no apparent reason...
>
> Of course, the engineering that goes in designing the special connectors
> to power and manage these boards, as well as keep them ventilated comes
> free of charge, in your world...
What "special connectors"?
Buy a UPS that sits under your desk. That's £50. Buy a UPS that is rack
mountable. That's £800, minimum. Sure, they probably don't sell rack UPS
with capacities as low as they do for the desktop. But 16x the price?
Really? For a battery and an inverter?
Buy a 12-port desktop switch. £30, maybe? Now buy a rack mountable one.
That'll be £200 please. Sure, it's physically bigger. There's more metal
in it. Metal costs money. But does it cost /that/ much money?
(Before anyone asks - no, just because it can be rack mounted, that does
/not/ mean it has management features. When I joined the company, we had
a whole rack full of switches, all rack mounted, none of them managed.
And all about £400 each.)
Redundant power supplies cost extra. RAID controllers cost extra.
Hot-swap drive bays cost extra. And yet, a server that has these costs
nowhere near as much as a rack-mount server. Now sure, making something
like a server actually small enough to be rack mounted is nontrivial.
There's a reason laptops cost 5x the price of a similar desktop. I
understand that. But for goodness' sake, if you make a /wire clamp/
that's rack mountable, suddenly it goes from being £2 to £80. It's like
it's a license to print money...
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