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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Is this the end of the world as we know it?
Date: 25 Oct 2011 12:53:47
Message: <4ea6e99b$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/10/2011 5:18 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> I'd love to not have to live with my mum any more. It's just that I
>> >  actually like MK. I have actual friends here, I love my dance school,
>> >  and to be honest, every other city I've seen is just old and run-down.
> Indeed that's a "problem" with living in a country that has a long
> history.


Or an advantage if you are that way inclined. I lived in a new town for 
four years. To me it was soulless and boring beyond belief, I was even 
glad to move to Aberdeen. It is just a point of view.


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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Is this the end of the world as we know it?
Date: 25 Oct 2011 13:08:05
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On 25/10/2011 5:01 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 10/24/2011 1:55, Stephen wrote:
>> cost about GBP 50 per day.
>
> WTF? My drive is 75 miles, and it costs about $25 round trip counting 
> tolls. And public transit is 3x as much in England?
>
>
That was costed for public transport. I reckon that to drive would take 
about 2.5 ~ 3 hours be charges £8 for the congestion charge and about 
£30 for parking. The average price of petrol in my area is £1.358 which 
is about $8.21 per US Gallon. Two months ago in NM I was paying $3.60 
per US Gallon

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     Stephen


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Is this the end of the world as we know it?
Date: 25 Oct 2011 13:18:04
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>>>> and to be honest, every other city I've seen is just old and run-down.
>> Indeed that's a "problem" with living in a country that has a long
>> history.
>
> Or an advantage if you are that way inclined. I lived in a new town for
> four years. To me it was soulless and boring beyond belief, I was even
> glad to move to Aberdeen. It is just a point of view.

Yeah, I've heard a lot of people say that MK is a "box city" with no 
soul. But every other city I've ever seen just look old and run-down. 
I'm used to things being shiny and new...

Interestingly, I've never met anybody who doesn't live in MK who has a 
single good word to say about it. Everybody has either never heard of 
it, or they hate it. I have no idea why.

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Is this the end of the world as we know it?
Date: 25 Oct 2011 13:59:11
Message: <4ea6f8ef$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:53:45 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 25/10/2011 5:18 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> I'd love to not have to live with my mum any more. It's just that I
>>> >  actually like MK. I have actual friends here, I love my dance
>>> >  school, and to be honest, every other city I've seen is just old
>>> >  and run-down.
>> Indeed that's a "problem" with living in a country that has a long
>> history.
> 
> 
> Or an advantage if you are that way inclined. I lived in a new town for
> four years. To me it was soulless and boring beyond belief, I was even
> glad to move to Aberdeen. It is just a point of view.

Well, that's why I said "problem" instead of *problem*. ;)

I tend to agree, I like having older buildings around.  However, having 
lived in a somewhat older house (by US standards), I think the decision 
to go for something more modern in the next place (a flat, no less) is 
right for us. :)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Is this the end of the world as we know it?
Date: 25 Oct 2011 15:58:42
Message: <4ea714f2$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/10/2011 6:59 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:

>>> Indeed that's a "problem" with living in a country that has a long
>>> history.
>>
>> Or an advantage if you are that way inclined. I lived in a new town for
>> four years. To me it was soulless and boring beyond belief, I was even
>> glad to move to Aberdeen. It is just a point of view.
> Well, that's why I said "problem" instead of *problem*. ;)

Tell an old man what the difference is between

"problem" instead of *problem* ?



>
> I tend to agree, I like having older buildings around.  However, having
> lived in a somewhat older house (by US standards), I think the decision
> to go for something more modern in the next place (a flat, no less) is
> right for us. :)
>

I like living in flats, I've never lived in a house with a garden.

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     Stephen


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Is this the end of the world as we know it?
Date: 25 Oct 2011 17:13:35
Message: <4ea7267f$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/10/2011 05:00 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 10/24/2011 0:58, Invisible wrote:
>>>> Why did you even apply?!" I'd feel like I wasted everybody's time.
>>>
>>> What if they said "We'll give you $150,000 more each year to move to
>>> London"?
>>
>> That's almost a hundred grand in UK currency. Nobody earns that much.
>
> I earn more, and I'm at the low end of the scale for what I do. No, you
> probably won't earn that much because you don't have the experience, but
> maybe you'll get something more significant than what you have now.

I'm sure very few places pay *less* than what I'm earning now. Back when 
I was actually having agents contact me, I was asking for roughly twice 
what I currently earn - and nobody seemed that surprised by such a 
figure. But ten times? That seems a stretch.

>> AFAIK, London is their only UK presence. (Although obviously they
>> themselves would have a better idea than I do.)
>
> Indeed. There are lots of companies that have offices where you wouldn't
> have thought they have an office. Like, the office I'm in now. They
> don't really advertise where they have offices.

Korg's UK headquarters are just down the road from me, in fact.

It's a 1-room office. I've been there.

>> And it's not that I don't ever want to come to London, just that I don't
>> want to do so with any great frequency. Once per month wouldn't be so
>> bad. Once per day would be.
>
> How far away is it? Get a place in London, come home on the weekends, or
> for dancing.

I'm not sure how far it is to central London. I know that my 
grandparents live just on the outskirts. It's 40 miles in distance, and 
yet it takes between 1.5 and 2 hours to drive there. (!!) I also know 
that a train trip is about an hour. (Once you've waited an hour for a 
train to actually show up...)

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Is this the end of the world as we know it?
Date: 25 Oct 2011 18:44:17
Message: <4ea73bc1$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:58:41 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 25/10/2011 6:59 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>>>> Indeed that's a "problem" with living in a country that has a long
>>>> history.
>>>
>>> Or an advantage if you are that way inclined. I lived in a new town
>>> for four years. To me it was soulless and boring beyond belief, I was
>>> even glad to move to Aberdeen. It is just a point of view.
>> Well, that's why I said "problem" instead of *problem*. ;)
> 
> Tell an old man what the difference is between
> 
> "problem" instead of *problem* ?

"problem" is with 'air quotes'.  *problem* is emphasized.  I guess what 
I'm trying to convey is that the two statements:

Indeed, that's a "problem" with living in a country that has a long 
history.

Indeed, that's a problem with living in a country that has a long history.

The first uses "problem" in a non-literal sense, almost an ironic sense.  
As if to say "some might think it's a problem, but I don't consider it 
so".

Clearer? ;)

>> I tend to agree, I like having older buildings around.  However, having
>> lived in a somewhat older house (by US standards), I think the decision
>> to go for something more modern in the next place (a flat, no less) is
>> right for us. :)
>>
>>
> I like living in flats, I've never lived in a house with a garden.

It's a lot of work. :)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Is this the end of the world as we know it?
Date: 26 Oct 2011 06:12:08
Message: <4ea7dcf8$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/10/2011 11:44 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> "problem" is with 'air quotes'.*problem*  is emphasized.
Just checking that the language hasn't changed again. :-)

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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Is this the end of the world as we know it?
Date: 26 Oct 2011 13:32:39
Message: <4ea84437$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:12:07 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 25/10/2011 11:44 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> "problem" is with 'air quotes'.*problem*  is emphasized.
> Just checking that the language hasn't changed again. :-)

We need an 'inotify' for the langauge, don't we? ;)

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Is this the end of the world as we know it?
Date: 26 Oct 2011 16:40:36
Message: <4ea87044@news.povray.org>
On 10/25/2011 10:17, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> But every other city I've ever seen just look old and run-down.

Move to the west coast of the USA.  "Hey, we have this really old cathedral. 
It was built even before WWII, can you believe it?" ;-)

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   People tell me I am the counter-example.


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