On 10/11/2011 1:02, Invisible wrote:
>>> Targeting a program at somebody other than who your eventual users are
>>> going to be? Yes, that would be... "poor design". :-)
>>
>> Having the eventual users completely change after you've finished
>> writing the code due to events completely outside the realm of said
>> code? No, not really poor design.
>
> Then perhaps that should be "poor management".

You're trolling here, right?

> a product that you already have lying around and try to sell it to a
> completely different audience...

You'll notice that Blender is free, right?

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On 10/11/2011 1:05, Invisible wrote:
> On 10/10/2011 06:04 PM, Darren New wrote:
>> On 10/10/2011 3:11, Invisible wrote:
>>> RC4? Man, how ancient is that? You realise it was a weakness in RC4 that
>>> allowed WEP to be broken, right?
>>
>> No. It was sending the key with each packet of data that allowed WEP to
>> be broken.
>
> Technically, it was
> 1. Restarting the keystream for each packet.
> 2. Using related keys for each packet.

Well, yes. Don't do that with a stream cipher.

> Probably. (Personally, I don't like stream ciphers, but anyway...)

Except that you have to turn a block cipher into a stream cipher if you want 
to encrypt a stream.

>> RC4 hasn't been broken if you don't restart the stream for every packet.
>
> RC4 has weaknesses concerning related keys. Also, the first few KB of the
> keystream is quite weak. Also, the keystream has certain statistical
> weaknesses. Also...

Yep. I'm not saying it's the best protocol. I'm saying it hasn't been broken 
wide open as you seemed to be implying.  If you know of someone who can 
break RC4 when properly used, please point me to it. Otherwise, I suspect 
the link between your computer and whatever computer you're managing is not 
going to get broken because of weaknesses in the RC4.

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On 10/11/2011 1:29, Invisible wrote:
> So how do you connect to it if it's behind two hardware firewalls plus the
> Windows Firewall?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teredo_tunneling

> Excuse my scepticism. None of the other Windows protocols are encrypted by
> default, nor even provide the *option* of encryption...

Your incredulity fortunately does not eliminate the encryption.

>>> And add a secure password. (The current admin password on the
>>> machine is trivially breakable.)
>>
>> That's kind of stupid. You'd be better off with no admin password at all.
>
> Well, yeah. Except that most things that ask you to log in as admin tend not
> to work if the password is blank.

Ding ding ding! That's what I meant. ;-)

> (No, I have no idea why.)

Because it's insecure.

> Still, when it's
> impossible to log in at all unless you're in the building,

Since you weren't aware that Teredo goes thru NAT and firewalls, chances are 
it's not impossible to log in if you aren't in the building.

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>> a product that you already have lying around and try to sell it to a
>> completely different audience...
>
> You'll notice that Blender is free, right?

Sure. That doesn't mean it's well designed. ;-)

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On 11-10-2011 10:00, Invisible wrote:
>>> Also, it contains far less information than a STOP message does.
>>> Basically
>>> an error code (plus textual translation) and a memory address. Good luck
>>> working out, say, what was *at* that address or anything...
>>
>> That's why the power light flashes 3 times before the message comes up.
>> That's you're cue to hit DEL on the serial terminal plugged in to the
>> back to launch the kernel debugger.
>
> Uh, what's a serial terminal? Also, what's a kernel debugger?

you are showing your age.


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On 10/11/2011 12:01, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> a product that you already have lying around and try to sell it to a
>>> completely different audience...
>>
>> You'll notice that Blender is free, right?
>
> Sure. That doesn't mean it's well designed. ;-)

It also means it isn't being sold to a different audience than it was built for.

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>> Sure. I mean, I've been seeing this behaviour on a daily basis for
>> over ten years now. Obviously I'm mistaken.
>
> Just because your system is broken doesn't mean everyones' is.

Yeah, true. Every Windows system I've ever worked with in my life just 
happens to be "broken" in the same way. That's completely plausible...

> Windows never "locked up" for me while looking for DHCP

I suppose Windows also doesn't stop responding when you change your 
TCP/IP configuration settings? (Actually, that one seems to vary. On 
some computers, you change it and it doesn't even blink. On others, you 
change it and have to sit there for multiple minutes before it wakes up 
again...)

> And the whole GUI doesn't lock up; at
> most, explorer waits for the CD to spin up. Again, it's that
> overgeneralization. :-)

Since Explorer is 90% of the Windows GUI, that's not a particularly 
drastic difference...

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On 11/10/2011 08:08 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 10/11/2011 12:01, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>> a product that you already have lying around and try to sell it to a
>>>> completely different audience...
>>>
>>> You'll notice that Blender is free, right?
>>
>> Sure. That doesn't mean it's well designed. ;-)
>
> It also means it isn't being sold to a different audience than it was
> built for.

Would it make you happier if I change "sold" to "provided to"?

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>> Uh, what's a serial terminal? Also, what's a kernel debugger?
>
> you are showing your age.

Well, yes... I thought it was common knowledge? :-}

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On 11-10-2011 21:08, Darren New wrote:

> It also means it isn't being sold to a different audience than it was
> built for.
>

Missed most of the communication on Blender (lack of time forces me to 
stop reading deep down levels of long communications).
Just dropping in here that Blender is very useable, provided that you 
work with it for some time. Unlike perhaps other software where the 
learning curve is shallower but much longer.

I have two students now to create some models, one mainly using Blender 
and one Maya. We will be playing around for one month and then decide 
which one we are going to use for the rest of their internship. It is 
not a clear cut win for Maya so far.


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