Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> My brother spent hours trying to get thru one of the Portal levels that had 
> a pretty obvious solution. Turns out he was trying to do it with a track 
> pad. Second try with an actual mouse and he was done. :-)

  Trackpads and first-person shooters mix even worse than gamepads and
first-person shooters... :P

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On 8/30/2011 2:02, Invisible wrote:
> (Why it has to install
> the .NET framework and the DirectX 9 runtime I don't know, but anyway...)

The installer is what checks to see if it's already installed. There are 
bunches of moving parts and extra libraries for DX9, for example, and the 
installer makes sure you're at least as up to date as the game. If it's 
already installed, the installer makes no changes for these products.

> Nowhere does anything really explain how the
> game works; you just have to sort of /guess/.

There's whole genres of games where that's the point of the game. You've 
just discovered one.  This is kind of what an adventure game is, except 
there you use your real-world knowledge to guide your guesses.

Indeed, I even saw write-ups of board game systems where the goal is to 
figure out the rules and strategies of the game faster than the AI does. :-)

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On 30/08/2011 05:27 PM, Warp wrote:
> Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom>  wrote:
>> My brother spent hours trying to get thru one of the Portal levels that had
>> a pretty obvious solution. Turns out he was trying to do it with a track
>> pad. Second try with an actual mouse and he was done. :-)
>
>    Trackpads and first-person shooters mix even worse than gamepads and
> first-person shooters... :P

I tried playing COD4 on a PS3. My God, how does anybody ever complete 
that game?! >_<

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>> Nowhere does anything really explain how the
>> game works; you just have to sort of /guess/.
>
> There's whole genres of games where that's the point of the game. You've
> just discovered one. This is kind of what an adventure game is, except
> there you use your real-world knowledge to guide your guesses.

Adventure games, maybe. But puzzlers? Man! That would be like saying 
"I'm so meta, even this acronym"...

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On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:59:18 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> On 30/08/2011 05:27 PM, Warp wrote:
>> Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom>  wrote:
>>> My brother spent hours trying to get thru one of the Portal levels
>>> that had a pretty obvious solution. Turns out he was trying to do it
>>> with a track pad. Second try with an actual mouse and he was done. :-)
>>
>>    Trackpads and first-person shooters mix even worse than gamepads and
>> first-person shooters... :P
> 
> I tried playing COD4 on a PS3. My God, how does anybody ever complete
> that game?! >_<

Heck, I'm trying to figure out how anyone plays Modern Warfare 2 - to 
completion or not - on the PS3.  Our copy just locks up after the first 
mission - completely repeatable, and apparently it's not an uncommon 
problem.

Jim

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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I tried playing COD4 on a PS3. My God, how does anybody ever complete 
> that game?! >_<

  It becomes slightly easier with lots of practice, but it never becomes
as fluent and easy as with a mouse.

  Console versions of FPS games often include features that make it a bit
easier (such as slight auto-aiming when the aim was close enough), for the
sole reason that the gamepad makes it more difficult to play.

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