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From: Invisible
Subject: Ossified
Date: 14 Jul 2011 10:51:50
Message: <4e1f0286@news.povray.org>
Every now and then, Wikipedia throws up something utterly baffling. 
Today, it gave me this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sedlec_Ossuary_chandelier.JPG

I don't... OK, wow. Just wow.


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From: Mike the Elder
Subject: Re: Ossified
Date: 14 Jul 2011 11:55:01
Message: <web.4e1f10f04881baa385627c70@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Every now and then, Wikipedia throws up something utterly baffling.
> Today, it gave me this:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sedlec_Ossuary_chandelier.JPG
>
> I don't... OK, wow. Just wow.

Generally speaking, I find it rather macabre. As a dedicated punster, however, I
can appreciate that it has humerus aspects as well.

Best Regards,
Mike C.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Ossified
Date: 14 Jul 2011 13:09:51
Message: <4e1f22df$1@news.povray.org>
> Generally speaking, I find it rather macabre.

Hell yes! o_O

> As a dedicated punster, however, I
> can appreciate that it has humerus aspects as well.

I can't believe you just did that. >_<

-- 
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Ossified
Date: 14 Jul 2011 13:28:48
Message: <4e1f2750$1@news.povray.org>
On 7/14/2011 7:51, Invisible wrote:
> I don't... OK, wow. Just wow.

It's a rather cool place. Go see it if you're ever in Rome. The whole place 
is decorated with the bones of many centuries worth of dead monks.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Coding without comments is like
    driving without turn signals."


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Ossified
Date: 14 Jul 2011 14:23:54
Message: <4e1f343a$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/14/2011 02:09 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Generally speaking, I find it rather macabre.
>
> Hell yes! o_O
>
>> As a dedicated punster, however, I
>> can appreciate that it has humerus aspects as well.
>
> I can't believe you just did that. >_<
>
make no bones about it ... i agree!
yeah ok ... thud


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Ossified
Date: 15 Jul 2011 01:54:54
Message: <4e1fd62e@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> It's a rather cool place. Go see it if you're ever in Rome. The whole place 
> is decorated with the bones of many centuries worth of dead monks.

  Isn't that quite disrespectful of the dead?

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Ossified
Date: 15 Jul 2011 03:49:32
Message: <4e1ff10c@news.povray.org>
On 15/07/2011 06:54 AM, Warp wrote:

>    Isn't that quite disrespectful of the dead?

In addition to being just creepy.


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Ossified
Date: 15 Jul 2011 05:52:13
Message: <4e200dcd$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/15/2011 02:54 AM, Warp wrote:
> Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom>  wrote:
>> It's a rather cool place. Go see it if you're ever in Rome. The whole place
>> is decorated with the bones of many centuries worth of dead monks.
>
>    Isn't that quite disrespectful of the dead?
>
would much rather have a bit of respect while alive ... who cares what 
people think of my bones when I'm gone ;-)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Ossified
Date: 15 Jul 2011 06:11:57
Message: <4e20126d@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
> On 07/15/2011 02:54 AM, Warp wrote:
> > Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom>  wrote:
> >> It's a rather cool place. Go see it if you're ever in Rome. The whole place
> >> is decorated with the bones of many centuries worth of dead monks.
> >
> >    Isn't that quite disrespectful of the dead?
> >
> would much rather have a bit of respect while alive ... who cares what 
> people think of my bones when I'm gone ;-)

  Of course the deceased doesn't care anymore what happens to his body,
but it's not a question of that. *Other people* care what is done to
deceased people's bodies, and that shouldn't be underestimated. It's a
deeply rooted psychological and cultural thing.

  Just as an absolutely extreme example, imagine if some people played
football with a decapitated baby's head. Everybody would unanimously agree
that would be completely sick and horrendous. The argument "who cares, the
baby certainly doesn't, it's dead" would not help; on the contrary, it would
make the whole thing even worse, if that's even possible.

  Now, how is using a person's bones to decorate a church any less sick?
If you think about it, there isn't all that much of a difference, really.

  There's a certain amount of decency and respect that we should maintain
towards deceased people's remains, just as a cultural and psychological
thing.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Ossified
Date: 15 Jul 2011 06:33:21
Message: <4e201771@news.povray.org>
On 15/07/2011 11:11 AM, Warp wrote:

>    There's a certain amount of decency and respect that we should maintain
> towards deceased people's remains, just as a cultural and psychological
> thing.

I think the whole thing is creepy as hell. On the other hand, what is 
considered "decent" and what counts for "respect" varies wildly by 
culture. I'm told there are places where it is traditional to eat the 
flesh of the deceased as a mark of respect, and to not do so would be a 
great dishonour. It makes no sense to me, but then I'm not from that 
culture...


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