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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: You what?
Date: 16 Jul 2011 13:48:07
Message: <4e21ced7$1@news.povray.org>
On 7/16/2011 5:38, Warp wrote:
>    I assume that with black people it's some kind of pride thing, and with
> white people it's traditional racism?

Yes.  Being an oreo to whites is not "oh, look, he's trying to better 
himself" either. :-)

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: You what?
Date: 17 Jul 2011 06:44:54
Message: <4e22bd26$1@news.povray.org>
>> No reason at all, at all. But that is what people are like.
>
>    I wish people acted more rationally about these things.

That's gotta be right up there with "imagine all the people living in 
peace". And the guy who wrote that got assassinated...

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: You what?
Date: 17 Jul 2011 23:44:53
Message: <4e23ac35@news.povray.org>
On 16/07/2011 4:55 PM, andrel wrote:
> On 15-7-2011 3:02, Stephen wrote:
>> On 14/07/2011 9:07 PM, andrel wrote:
>>> As far as understandable lyrics go I am still huge fan of Eric Bogle.
>>> A song with some relation to this topic:
>>> http://ericbogle.net/lyrics/lyricspdf/sillyslangsong.pdf
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOdHNGG9yWU
>>
>> Thanks Andrel, I liked that.
>
> I though about asking if you were a Scot...
>

And did you?

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: You what?
Date: 17 Jul 2011 23:46:35
Message: <4e23ac9b$1@news.povray.org>
On 16/07/2011 6:48 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 7/16/2011 5:38, Warp wrote:
>> I assume that with black people it's some kind of pride thing, and with
>> white people it's traditional racism?
>
> Yes. Being an oreo to whites is not "oh, look, he's trying to better
> himself" either. :-)
>

LOL
Has anyone told you that you can be cruel?

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: You what?
Date: 17 Jul 2011 23:47:16
Message: <4e23acc4$1@news.povray.org>
On 16/07/2011 4:55 PM, andrel wrote:
> On 16-7-2011 16:03, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Sometimes I get disapproval because I am a Scot living in London. (From
>> fellow Scots, that is.
>
> .... but you answered that yourself

You are just teasing Warp, now.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: You what?
Date: 17 Jul 2011 23:47:51
Message: <4e23ace7$1@news.povray.org>
On 16/07/2011 3:44 PM, Warp wrote:
> Stephen<mcavoys_at@aoldotcom>  wrote:
>> Sometimes I get disapproval because I am a Scot living in London.
>
>    I can't even begin to imagine the reasoning behind that. :)
>
I wouldn't dare put it in writing.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: You what?
Date: 18 Jul 2011 01:44:22
Message: <4e23c836@news.povray.org>
On 7/17/2011 20:46, Stephen wrote:
> On 16/07/2011 6:48 PM, Darren New wrote:
>> On 7/16/2011 5:38, Warp wrote:
>>> I assume that with black people it's some kind of pride thing, and with
>>> white people it's traditional racism?
>>
>> Yes. Being an oreo to whites is not "oh, look, he's trying to better
>> himself" either. :-)
>>
>
> LOL
> Has anyone told you that you can be cruel?
>

Cruel would be including the word "uppity". ;-)

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    driving without turn signals."


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: You what?
Date: 18 Jul 2011 07:55:16
Message: <4e241f24$1@news.povray.org>
On 18/07/2011 6:44 AM, Darren New wrote:
> On 7/17/2011 20:46, Stephen wrote:
>> On 16/07/2011 6:48 PM, Darren New wrote:
>>> On 7/16/2011 5:38, Warp wrote:
>>>> I assume that with black people it's some kind of pride thing, and with
>>>> white people it's traditional racism?
>>>
>>> Yes. Being an oreo to whites is not "oh, look, he's trying to better
>>> himself" either. :-)
>>>
>>
>> LOL
>> Has anyone told you that you can be cruel?
>>
>
> Cruel would be including the word "uppity". ;-)
>

Yup! :-)

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From: Alain
Subject: Re: You what?
Date: 18 Jul 2011 16:27:44
Message: <4e249740$1@news.povray.org>


>> Stephen<mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
>>> On 14/07/2011 6:09 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>>> Oreo is also derogatory American slang.
>>>> I hadn't heard that -
>>
>>> Black on the outside. White on the inside.
>>
>> Honestly, I don't understand what that's supposed to mean.
>>
>
> A black person who doesn't act like the rest of their homies from the
> 'hood.
>
> cf: Lewis Hamilton, Tiger Woods, Barack Obama.
>
> The inverse (and quite derogatory) is "wigger". White folks who dress
> with pants down to their knees and oversided basketball shirts. If I'm
> not mistaken, the Brits call them "chavs".

So, it's a degoratory term used to designate someone from an unfavorable 
origin, who, through hard work, sacrifices and perseverence, managed to 
rise above that background.

If I was in that case, I would receive it as a GREAT compliment, an 
awsome acknowlegement and recognaisance of the great hard work of my 
parents, possibly grand-perents, and mine.

When you are from some gethoized culture, you realy have a duty of 
getting OUT of it and it's stigma. You should never wilignly stay in those.



Alain


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: You what?
Date: 18 Jul 2011 16:53:53
Message: <4e249d61@news.povray.org>
Alain <aze### [at] qwertyorg> wrote:
> So, it's a degoratory term used to designate someone from an unfavorable 
> origin, who, through hard work, sacrifices and perseverence, managed to 
> rise above that background.

  If I understood correctly, it's probably more like they (ie. black people)
see him as a "traitor" to their subculture, one who doesn't want to belong
to his own people, to embrace their customs and culture, but instead tries
to live like the white people (who are often seen as the "oppressors", at
least by association).

  Of course the problem here is that they see it as him "trying to be white"
(with all the related culture and customs), when in fact it's probably just
that he wants a better life, as you commented.

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