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On 7/14/2011 2:39, Warp wrote:
> I have always wondered why in Japanese, and probably also in Chinese,
> there's no strict one-to-one-to-one correspondence between a kanji symbol,
> its meaning and its pronounciation.
Because Chinese writing is at least 5000 years old or so. The same writing
system has been evolving for about as long as the pyramids have been around,
so rather a lot older than Judaism, for example. You expect anything used
by a billion people for 5000 years is going to be logical and consistent? :-)
> The whole writing system seems to be
> designed precisely for that: One symbol has (exactly) one meaning and one
> pronounciation, making it completely unambiguous.
I'm sure it started out that way. Now spread it slowly across warring
empires that spanned five time zones, let it stew for a few thousand years
without any means of communication faster than horses, and see if everyone
still agrees on the meaning and pronunciation of everything.
> So the whole idea with the kanji writing system seems
> to be completely wasted, making it overly complicated for no good reason.
I don't think saying "the whole idea with the kanji writing system." I think
saying "a logically designed ideographic writing system would have these
beneficial properties." But it wasn't logically designed, any more than
human bodies were.
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On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:38:53 +0100, Invisible wrote:
> Some people actually *like* feel-good music. Shockingly enough.
Sure, which is why we all can have different opinions about it.
Jim
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On 7/14/2011 10:54, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:38:53 +0100, Invisible wrote:
>
>> Some people actually *like* feel-good music. Shockingly enough.
>
> Sure, which is why we all can have different opinions about it.
Or, more precisely, that's why there exists any feel-good music at all. :-)
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On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:55:48 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> On 7/14/2011 10:54, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:38:53 +0100, Invisible wrote:
>>
>>> Some people actually *like* feel-good music. Shockingly enough.
>>
>> Sure, which is why we all can have different opinions about it.
>
> Or, more precisely, that's why there exists any feel-good music at all.
> :-)
Well, that's another view, yes. :)
Jim
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On 14-7-2011 19:14, Darren New wrote:
> On 7/14/2011 4:47, Mike the Elder wrote:
>> OK, now for some nice entirley comprehensible lyrics...
>
> In China, they teach english with The Carpenters. "Because you can
> understand what they're saying. That's why they call it easy listening."
As far as understandable lyrics go I am still huge fan of Eric Bogle.
A song with some relation to this topic:
http://ericbogle.net/lyrics/lyricspdf/sillyslangsong.pdf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOdHNGG9yWU
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On 14/07/2011 9:07 PM, andrel wrote:
> As far as understandable lyrics go I am still huge fan of Eric Bogle.
> A song with some relation to this topic:
> http://ericbogle.net/lyrics/lyricspdf/sillyslangsong.pdf
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOdHNGG9yWU
Thanks Andrel, I liked that.
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On 14/07/2011 9:38 AM, Invisible wrote:
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> I will freely admit though, Starlight Express was surprisingly lame.
> (And I don't mean just the music.)
And racist IM(NS)HO
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On 14/07/2011 6:09 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> > Oreo is also derogatory American slang.
> I hadn't heard that -
Black on the outside. White on the inside.
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On 7/14/2011 18:07, Stephen wrote:
> On 14/07/2011 6:09 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> > Oreo is also derogatory American slang.
>> I hadn't heard that -
>
> Black on the outside. White on the inside.
Exactly. I think it refers to individuals of african descent who act in a
way the local community perceives as that of european descent. I.e., a black
guy sucking up to a white guy to get white guy perks would be an oreo.
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On 15/07/2011 3:18 AM, Darren New wrote:
> On 7/14/2011 18:07, Stephen wrote:
>> On 14/07/2011 6:09 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> > Oreo is also derogatory American slang.
>>> I hadn't heard that -
>>
>> Black on the outside. White on the inside.
>
> Exactly. I think it refers to individuals of african descent who act in
> a way the local community perceives as that of european descent. I.e., a
> black guy sucking up to a white guy to get white guy perks would be an
> oreo.
>
You think? O_O ;-)
AFAIK It also applies to (I'm at a loss for the correct term) people of
colour who want to better themselves and leave their community behind.
Similar to working class folk who want to get out of the slums
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