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Number of people killed by bird flu: 303 world-wide in total.
Number of people killed by SARS: 8,273 world-wide in total.
Number of people killed by cars: 43,000 *per year* in the USA alone.
How about we all go get some frigging perspective here? :-P
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Le 23/06/2011 14:29, Invisible a écrit :
> Number of people killed by bird flu: 303 world-wide in total.
> Number of people killed by SARS: 8,273 world-wide in total.
> Number of people killed by cars: 43,000 *per year* in the USA alone.
>
> How about we all go get some frigging perspective here? :-P
We need the number about the people killed by serial killers.
Should they get offered a car or many ?
What about the number of killed people in aircraft per year ?
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On 23/06/2011 03:02 PM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Le 23/06/2011 14:29, Invisible a écrit :
>> Number of people killed by bird flu: 303 world-wide in total.
>> Number of people killed by SARS: 8,273 world-wide in total.
>> Number of people killed by cars: 43,000 *per year* in the USA alone.
>>
>> How about we all go get some frigging perspective here? :-P
>
> We need the number about the people killed by serial killers.
>
> Should they get offered a car or many ?
>
> What about the number of killed people in aircraft per year ?
Wolfram Alpha lacks data for air traffic deaths.
Apparently a 2008 estimate suggests that 11.15 million murders are
committed per year in the USA. (Emphasis *estimate*.)
I would imagine the statistics for /serial/ killers are much smaller.
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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Number of people killed by bird flu: 303 world-wide in total.
> Number of people killed by SARS: 8,273 world-wide in total.
> Number of people killed by cars: 43,000 *per year* in the USA alone.
> How about we all go get some frigging perspective here? :-P
The perspective is: Cars are necessary, bird flu and sars aren't.
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>> How about we all go get some frigging perspective here? :-P
>
> The perspective is: Cars are necessary, bird flu and sars aren't.
1. The assertion that cars are necessary is not beyond question.
2. There's very little you can do about deadly diseases. There's quite a
bit you could realistically do to reduce deaths from road traffic.
3. Cars kill far more people than SARS ever has. Yet people are
terrified of SARS, and perfectly OK with cars.
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Apparently a 2008 estimate suggests that 11.15 million murders are
> committed per year in the USA. (Emphasis *estimate*.)
I would like to see some credible references to that. 11 million people
is like nuking New York and a good chunk of its surroundings (New York
has a population of something like 8 million). Each year.
Given that the US has a population of about 300 million, that kind of
murder rate would make it deserted in about 27 years.
In Finland about 140 murders are committed each year.
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> 3. Cars kill far more people than SARS ever has. Yet people are
> terrified of SARS, and perfectly OK with cars.
Because cars are necessary, and hence the small risk is acceptable.
Sars and bird flu are not necessary and hence any risk whatsoever is
unacceptable.
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On 23/06/2011 04:43 PM, Warp wrote:
> Invisible<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> 3. Cars kill far more people than SARS ever has. Yet people are
>> terrified of SARS, and perfectly OK with cars.
>
> Because cars are necessary, and hence the small risk is acceptable.
>
> Sars and bird flu are not necessary and hence any risk whatsoever is
> unacceptable.
Or, to word it differently,
"Cars are unavoidable. SARS is unavoidable."
Just playing devil's advocate here...
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On 23/06/2011 04:36 PM, Warp wrote:
> Invisible<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Apparently a 2008 estimate suggests that 11.15 million murders are
>> committed per year in the USA. (Emphasis *estimate*.)
>
> I would like to see some credible references to that. 11 million people
> is like nuking New York and a good chunk of its surroundings (New York
> has a population of something like 8 million). Each year.
My source is here:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=murder
No indication of where *their* source is, nor what the confidence
intervals on that figure is. (It *is* only an estimate, after all...) I
note that this is the number of *crimes*, not actually the number of
people murdered. (I'm not sure how these relate; is killing 7 people
counted as 1 crime or 7 crimes? Can killing a single person be several
crimes at once?)
> Given that the US has a population of about 300 million, that kind of
> murder rate would make it deserted in about 27 years.
Disregarding the birth rate, I presume?
I agree though, it does sound a tad large just for the USA...
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Am 23.06.2011 16:02, schrieb Le_Forgeron:
> What about the number of killed people in aircraft per year ?
Far less than in car accidents. Flying is actually the safest way to
travel on a risk-per-distance basis, even before trains.
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