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From: Invisible
Subject: Bill Turner
Date: 17 Jun 2011 11:08:06
Message: <4dfb6dd6$1@news.povray.org>
"This process is affectionately known as 'bootstrapping' --- for obvious 
reasons (at least if your native language is English it is obvious)."

Apparently my native language is not English...


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bill Turner
Date: 17 Jun 2011 13:40:00
Message: <4dfb9170$1@news.povray.org>
On 17/06/2011 4:08 PM, Invisible wrote:
> "This process is affectionately known as 'bootstrapping' --- for obvious
> reasons (at least if your native language is English it is obvious)."
>
> Apparently my native language is not English...

Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

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     Stephen


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Bill Turner
Date: 17 Jun 2011 17:02:45
Message: <4dfbc0f5@news.povray.org>
On 6/17/2011 8:08, Invisible wrote:
> "This process is affectionately known as 'bootstrapping' --- for obvious
> reasons (at least if your native language is English it is obvious)."
>
> Apparently my native language is not English...

That's because you didn't read the classics, remember?

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Coding without comments is like
    driving without turn signals."


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Bill Turner
Date: 18 Jun 2011 04:58:49
Message: <4DFC68D0.1020606@gmail.com>
On 17-6-2011 23:02, Darren New wrote:
> On 6/17/2011 8:08, Invisible wrote:
>> "This process is affectionately known as 'bootstrapping' --- for obvious
>> reasons (at least if your native language is English it is obvious)."
>>
>> Apparently my native language is not English...
>
> That's because you didn't read the classics, remember?

Knowing your classics is part of being a true English(wo)man.

Apparently Andy was born in England from English parents and was raised 
in England, yet he still lacks some fundamental Englishness.
Can we conclude from that that not everyone in England is educated in 
private schools?


-- 
Apparently you can afford your own dictator for less than 10 cents per 
citizen per day.


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Bill Turner
Date: 18 Jun 2011 05:37:12
Message: <4dfc71c8$1@news.povray.org>
On 06/18/2011 05:58 AM, andrel wrote:
> Apparently Andy was born in England from English parents and was raised
> in England, yet he still lacks some fundamental Englishness.
> Can we conclude from that that not everyone in England is educated in
> private schools?
>
>
think it has more to do with when rather than where


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bill Turner
Date: 18 Jun 2011 07:12:29
Message: <4dfc881d$1@news.povray.org>
On 18/06/2011 9:58 AM, andrel wrote:
> Can we conclude from that that not everyone in England is educated in
> private schools?

Duh!

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     Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bill Turner
Date: 21 Jun 2011 03:47:48
Message: <4e004ca4$1@news.povray.org>
>> Apparently my native language is not English...
>
> Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

...an expression I've only ever seen in computer documentation as an 
explanation for why it's called "booting".


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bill Turner
Date: 21 Jun 2011 04:24:03
Message: <4e005523$1@news.povray.org>
On 17/06/2011 10:02 PM, Darren New wrote:

> That's because you didn't read the classics, remember?

It's not just books, apparently. Consider, for example,

http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20110620

I have literally *no idea* what this is about. Presumably because I 
haven't played the game...


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Bill Turner
Date: 21 Jun 2011 11:30:30
Message: <4e00b916$1@news.povray.org>

>>> Apparently my native language is not English...
>>
>> Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
>
> ...an expression I've only ever seen in computer documentation as an
> explanation for why it's called "booting".

Same thing here. I've never, ever, seen that expression in any 
non-computer related context. Ever!


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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Bill Turner
Date: 21 Jun 2011 17:06:18
Message: <4e0107ca$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/21/2011 8:30 AM, Alain wrote:

>>>> Apparently my native language is not English...
>>>
>>> Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
>>
>> ...an expression I've only ever seen in computer documentation as an
>> explanation for why it's called "booting".
>
> Same thing here. I've never, ever, seen that expression in any
> non-computer related context. Ever!
Ah, well, I will just put on my readies and run out to find an example! 
Note - Not sure what 'readies' is, nor did most Americans in like the 
1850s or so, when Mark Twain quoted some Brit he was with, in a hotel, 
during some mess involving a cat on the roof, making noise, the Brit 
being nearly naked, and his subsequent slip and slide, into a diner 
party, from said roof. The comment was, "If I had put on some readies, I 
would have got that cat.", roughly (not the exact quote).

Apparently, someone, when the phrase "booting" was come up with, was 
still using the word. Same with "readies", in the context of.. shoes 
maybe, in Twain's time... lol


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