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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Rare for a reason
Date: 6 Jun 2011 14:33:55
Message: <4ded1d93@news.povray.org>
On 06/06/2011 05:54 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 6/6/2011 8:51, Invisible wrote:
>> OK, I'll bite: Why the hell should anybody, anywhere, *ever* read
>> Macbeth?
>
> Because it's full of words and expressions that are shortcut references
> to entire sets of memes in educated society.

So you need to read the entire play just to comprehend the one or two 
vague references that anybody could explain to you in five seconds flat?

> Just like if someone truly
> ugly walks past and I whistle the Wicked Witch of the West theme music,
> it brings in a whole packet of memes and concepts which are
> incomprehensible if you haven't watched the movie.

I've watched that movie, and I wasn't even aware the Wicked Witch of the 
West *had* a theme tune!

> It's just the educated man's way of saying "African or European Swallow?"

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Rare for a reason
Date: 6 Jun 2011 15:54:33
Message: <4ded3079@news.povray.org>
On 6/6/2011 11:33, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> So you need to read the entire play just to comprehend the one or two vague
> references that anybody could explain to you in five seconds flat?

Yes. Because that's not really understanding.

> I've watched that movie, and I wasn't even aware the Wicked Witch of the
> West *had* a theme tune!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4kiXh8YOzk

Hint: So does Darth Vadar.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Coding without comments is like
    driving without turn signals."


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Rare for a reason
Date: 7 Jun 2011 04:00:54
Message: <4deddab6@news.povray.org>
On 06/06/2011 08:54 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 6/6/2011 11:33, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> So you need to read the entire play just to comprehend the one or two
>> vague
>> references that anybody could explain to you in five seconds flat?
>
> Yes. Because that's not really understanding.

Riiight. Because reading several hundred pages of dense prose written in 
a language so archaic that you need an interpreter just to explain 
what's actually happening is *so* much more enlightening than having 
somebody actually explain to you what a specific phrase means?

>> I've watched that movie, and I wasn't even aware the Wicked Witch of the
>> West *had* a theme tune!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4kiXh8YOzk

I'm not denying that one exists, I'm saying it's not very memorable.

> Hint: So does Darth Vadar.

Well yes, /obviously/. The Imperial March, by John Williams. One of his 
masterpieces. Everybody knows that...


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Rare for a reason
Date: 7 Jun 2011 09:17:10
Message: <4dee24d6$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/7/2011 1:00, Invisible wrote:
> Riiight. Because reading several hundred pages of dense prose written in a
> language so archaic that you need an interpreter just to explain what's
> actually happening is *so* much more enlightening than having somebody
> actually explain to you what a specific phrase means?

Yes.

> I'm not denying that one exists, I'm saying it's not very memorable.

i think opinions will differ on that.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Coding without comments is like
    driving without turn signals."


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