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On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 01:49:13 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>> "The End." (Sorry, I really couldn't resist that one, I tried....)
>>
>>
> Groan!
<bows> I aim to please. ;-)
Jim
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Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] u washington edu> wrote:
> Clearly what we need then is some way to get Warp riled up. Anybody
> know any good Finnish jokes?
Why would I get "riled up" by a Finnish joke?
I once heard a claim (which I don't know if it's true) that Norwegians,
of all people, seem to have quite many Finnish jokes, especially related
to the Winter War. For example one goes something like this:
Two Finns who survived the Winter War were conversating afterwards:
"So, what did you do when the war was finally over and you got home?"
"I had sex with my wife."
"Ok, but after that."
"I had more sex with my wife."
"Ok, ok, but after all that."
"I got my skis off, and had more sex with my wife."
--
- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] u washington edu> wrote:
>> Clearly what we need then is some way to get Warp riled up. Anybody
>> know any good Finnish jokes?
>
> Why would I get "riled up" by a Finnish joke?
If I thought you'd *actually* mind it I wouldn't have suggested it :-)
> I once heard a claim (which I don't know if it's true) that Norwegians,
> of all people, seem to have quite many Finnish jokes, especially related
> to the Winter War. For example one goes something like this:
>
> Two Finns who survived the Winter War were conversating afterwards:
>
I had not heard that one before. Is there a typical sort of punchline
to jokes about Finns? The main negative stereotypes I've heard is that
they're untalkative surely drunks (who you additionally don't want to
get into a war with), but this is based on about four web comics I read
a year ago, so I have no idea if that's actually what the stereotype is.
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Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] u washington edu> wrote:
> Is there a typical sort of punchline to jokes about Finns?
Not that I know of.
> The main negative stereotypes I've heard is that
> they're untalkative surely drunks (who you additionally don't want to
> get into a war with), but this is based on about four web comics I read
> a year ago, so I have no idea if that's actually what the stereotype is.
Well, the stereotypical Finn doesn't show emotions and always looks like
he/she is mourning, and doesn't communicate.
While that's an exaggeration, it's actually not *completely* fictitious.
For example get a bus ride eg. in Spain and in Finland, and you'll notice
the significant difference (in the amount of loud chatter and the average
expression on people's faces).
As for being drunks, is there any western culture which isn't
stereotypically so?
--
- Warp
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nemesis wrote:
> dnew is on business trip and invisible is invisible at the moment, thus,
> no need for Warp to reply to any non-sense.
Invisible is invisibly building a complicated graphics library...
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On 19/08/2010 4:24 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 01:49:13 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>>> "The End." (Sorry, I really couldn't resist that one, I tried....)
>>>
>>>
>> Groan!
>
> <bows> I aim to please. ;-)
>
Dead eye Dick. :-)
--
Best Regards,
Stephen
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nemesis wrote:
> Mike Raiford escreveu:
>> Quiet in here lately ... I think I heard a cricket or two.
>
> dnew is on business trip and invisible is invisible at the moment, thus,
> no need for Warp to reply to any non-sense.
Bazing!
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Quoth the raven:
Need S'Mores!
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Kevin Wampler wrote:
> Clearly what we need then is some way to get Warp riled up. Anybody
> know any good Finnish jokes?
Why do Fins think Java is much better than C++?
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Quoth the raven:
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Warp <war### [at] tag povray org> wrote:
> Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] u washington edu> wrote:
> > Clearly what we need then is some way to get Warp riled up. Anybody
> > know any good Finnish jokes?
>
> Why would I get "riled up" by a Finnish joke?
>
> I once heard a claim (which I don't know if it's true) that Norwegians,
> of all people, seem to have quite many Finnish jokes, especially related
> to the Winter War. For example one goes something like this:
>
> Two Finns who survived the Winter War were conversating afterwards:
>
> "So, what did you do when the war was finally over and you got home?"
> "I had sex with my wife."
> "Ok, but after that."
> "I had more sex with my wife."
> "Ok, ok, but after all that."
> "I got my skis off, and had more sex with my wife."
bwahahaha
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> Kevin Wampler wrote:
> > Clearly what we need then is some way to get Warp riled up. Anybody
> > know any good Finnish jokes?
>
>
> Why do Fins think Java is much better than C++?
the only 2 Finns I know have much higher steem for C and C++... (I'm talking of
Torvalds and Warp, sure)
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On 8/19/2010 3:47 AM, Warp wrote:
> Kevin Wampler<wam### [at] u washington edu> wrote:
>> Is there a typical sort of punchline to jokes about Finns?
>
> Not that I know of.
>
>> The main negative stereotypes I've heard is that
>> they're untalkative surely drunks (who you additionally don't want to
>> get into a war with), but this is based on about four web comics I read
>> a year ago, so I have no idea if that's actually what the stereotype is.
>
> Well, the stereotypical Finn doesn't show emotions and always looks like
> he/she is mourning, and doesn't communicate.
>
> While that's an exaggeration, it's actually not *completely* fictitious.
> For example get a bus ride eg. in Spain and in Finland, and you'll notice
> the significant difference (in the amount of loud chatter and the average
> expression on people's faces).
>
It might have something to do with the amount of sunlight.
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Darren New wrote:
> Why do Fins think Java is much better than C++?
A better question might be "why do Finland, Poland, Italy, France,
Spain, Denmark and just about every other nation in Europe have superior
programmers to England?"
Seriously, back in the days of Amiga share-ware software, *all* the
best, most innovative stuff came from foreign countries, never from England.
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> A better question might be "why do Finland, Poland, Italy, France, Spain,
> Denmark and just about every other nation in Europe have superior
> programmers to England?"
Because in England everyone is too busy getting drunk and stabbing each
other :-)
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On 8/19/2010 2:57 AM, Invisible wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>
>> dnew is on business trip and invisible is invisible at the moment,
>> thus, no need for Warp to reply to any non-sense.
>
> Invisible is invisibly building a complicated graphics library...
Elaborate, please....
--
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nemesis <nam### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> the only 2 Finns I know have much higher steem for C and C++... (I'm talking of
> Torvalds and Warp, sure)
Torvalds hates C++ and thinks that C is a much superior language in all
possible counts. I don't think there's anything that I need to comment to
that.
--
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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> A better question might be "why do Finland, Poland, Italy, France,
> Spain, Denmark and just about every other nation in Europe have superior
> programmers to England?"
In the 80's the UK was the largest producer of computer games in Europe.
I don't know what happened then. (I'm assuming all the good game programmers
moved to the US and Canada.)
--
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>> Invisible is invisibly building a complicated graphics library...
>
> Elaborate, please....
Bezier splines, my friend.
You can plot them using de Casteljau's algorithm. It's really quite
delightfully simple:
deCasteljau t [p] = [[p]]
deCasteljau t ps = ps : deCasteljau t (zipWith (vlinear t) ps (tail ps))
That's the whole algorithm. However, not only can you plot a Bezier
spline, but you can also split it into two halves (which are not
necessarily of equal size):
split_at t ps =
let qss = deCasteljau t ps
in (map head qss, map last qss)
On top of that, you can transform a degree-N Bezier spline into a
degree-(N+1) Bezier spline. Each new control point is a linear
combination of two existing control points.
Now, it follows that this procedure ought to be invertable, and indeed
it is. Since we have
Hi[0] = Lo[0]
Hi[1] = (1 - 1/N) Lo[0] + 1/n Lo[1]
Hi[2] = (1 - 2/N) Lo[1] + 2/n Lo[2]
...
we can reverse the procedure with
Lo[0] = Hi[0]
Lo[1] = Lo[0] + N/1 (Hi[1] - Lo[0])
Lo[2] = Lo[1] + N/2 (Hi[2] - Lo[1])
...
Of course, not every degree-N Bezier spline can be transformed into a
degree-(N-1) spline. As far as I can tell, the acid test is whether the
last of the lower-degree control points matches the last of the
higher-degree control points. If they match, the conversion was
successful. If they don't match, the spline is not representable in the
lower degree.
In addition to all this, you can have "rational" Bezier splines, which
is where the control points are weighted. What you do is you project all
the control points into 3D space using an inverse-perspective
projection. (In other words, a perspective projecting back to 2D takes
them to their original locations.) The control point weight is the
Z-distance. Now you draw the Bezier spline in 3D, and then
perspective-project the whole thing back down to 2D again.
Of course, all the algorithms thus far deal only with /splines/. Usually
what you want is /spline patches/ - that is, a series of connected
splines. Each segment can be connected to the next either smoothly or
with a "corner". A smooth connection requires that the control points
obey certain relationships; you can write software to enforce this
automatically.
On top of all that, it's sometimes useful to have a data structure which
is guaranteed to contain a degree-N spline, so that you can enforce the
spline degree at compile-time using the type system. (For example,
PostScript can only handle *cubic* Bezier splines, and not any other
degree.) So there's some machinery for that.
In fact, this part of the code is so repetative that I actually wrote a
program to write the program. This way I can auto-generate spline types
for degrees 2 to 5 and still have the codebase stay maintainable. Plus I
can do it the least abstract way, so it's quite efficient at run-time.
I still need to go implement B-splines. (In particular, if you have a
rational B-spline with user-defined knots, what you have is NURBS.) Plus
I want to see if I can come up with a way to make a spline that actually
passes through all of the control points. Plus many kinds of curve can
be represented in more than one way, and I want to be able to convert
representations easily.
In short, my "graphics library" so far consists of data structures for
representing various kinds of curves, and manipulating them. You could
use that for graphics, but you could just as well use it for controlling
the parameters on a sound synthesizer. They're just parametric curves.
My plan, eventually, after having constructed a library that can handle
any possible representation of anything you could possibly want to work
on, is to write a series of backends that allow you to draw this stuff
as PNG, JPEG, PPM, SVG, PDF, PostScript...
It might take a while.
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Warp wrote:
> In the 80's the UK was the largest producer of computer games in Europe.
> I don't know what happened then. (I'm assuming all the good game programmers
> moved to the US and Canada.)
According to legend, the infamous Tetris is originally of Russian origin.
(That's the only computer game I have any idea about the origins of.)
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:30:06 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 19/08/2010 4:24 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 01:49:13 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>>> "The End." (Sorry, I really couldn't resist that one, I tried....)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Groan!
>>
>> <bows> I aim to please. ;-)
>>
>>
> Dead eye Dick. :-)
LOL
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Warp escreveu:
> nemesis <nam### [at] gmail com> wrote:
>> the only 2 Finns I know have much higher steem for C and C++... (I'm talking of
>> Torvalds and Warp, sure)
>
> Torvalds hates C++ and thinks that C is a much superior language in all
> possible counts. I don't think there's anything that I need to comment to
> that.
", respectively"
--
a game sig: http://tinyurl.com/d3rxz9
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Invisible escreveu:
> Warp wrote:
>
>> In the 80's the UK was the largest producer of computer games in
>> Europe.
>> I don't know what happened then. (I'm assuming all the good game
>> programmers
>> moved to the US and Canada.)
>
> According to legend, the infamous Tetris is originally of Russian origin.
>
> (That's the only computer game I have any idea about the origins of.)
I heard Nintendo, Konami and all those animé-like games are all from
Finnland.
--
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On 19-8-2010 14:24, Darren New wrote:
> Kevin Wampler wrote:
>> Clearly what we need then is some way to get Warp riled up. Anybody
>> know any good Finnish jokes?
>
>
> Why do Fins think Java is much better than C++?
I don't know...
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nemesis wrote:
> I heard Nintendo, Konami and all those animé-like games are all fr
om
> Finnland.
A number of game companies that have japanese-sounding names (including
Atari) are all "western" companies in Europe or the Americas.
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> A number of game companies that have japanese-sounding names (including
> Atari) are all "western" companies in Europe or the Americas.
Any other examples besides Atari?
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Warp <war### [at] tag povray org> wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> > A number of game companies that have japanese-sounding names (including
> > Atari) are all "western" companies in Europe or the Americas.
>
> Any other examples besides Atari?
Nintendo of America? ;)
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
>> A number of game companies that have japanese-sounding names (including
>> Atari) are all "western" companies in Europe or the Americas.
>
> Any other examples besides Atari?
>
I don't remember what the others were. They might have gone out of business
when arcade consoles got overrun by compputers, but I remember there were
three or four I'd heard of.
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Need S'Mores!
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>>> Invisible is invisibly building a complicated graphics library...
>>
>> Elaborate, please....
>
> Bezier splines, my friend.
>
> It might take a while.
Elaborate enough? :-P
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On 8/19/2010 9:52 AM, Invisible wrote:
>>> Invisible is invisibly building a complicated graphics library...
>>
>> Elaborate, please....
>
> Bezier splines, my friend.
>
>
Ahh... got it!
Reminds me of the time I wrote an interpolation algorithm for a graph.
It was just a simple cubic interpolation, really nothing fancy. But fun!
My circuit simulator is on the back burner at the moment. I got
distracted by an old project I've resurrected. Basically to write an app
to generate a C# class from a header. (Mostly for importing Windows API
functions easily.)
--
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On 8/20/2010 6:55 AM, nemesis wrote:
>
> Nintendo of America? ;)
>
Nintendo is Japanese. Nintendo of America is just a division that
handles the licensing of consoles and games in the U.S.
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Mike Raiford <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/20/2010 6:55 AM, nemesis wrote:
> >
> > Nintendo of America? ;)
> >
>
> Nintendo is Japanese. Nintendo of America is just a division that
> handles the licensing of consoles and games in the U.S.
ORLY? ;)
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Tom Austin a écrit :
> On 8/19/2010 3:47 AM, Warp wrote:
>> Kevin Wampler<wam### [at] u washington edu> wrote:
>>> Is there a typical sort of punchline to jokes about Finns?
>>
>> Not that I know of.
>>
>>> The main negative stereotypes I've heard is that
>>> they're untalkative surely drunks (who you additionally don't want to
>>> get into a war with), but this is based on about four web comics I read
>>> a year ago, so I have no idea if that's actually what the stereotype is.
>>
>> Well, the stereotypical Finn doesn't show emotions and always looks
>> like
>> he/she is mourning, and doesn't communicate.
>>
>> While that's an exaggeration, it's actually not *completely*
>> fictitious.
>> For example get a bus ride eg. in Spain and in Finland, and you'll notice
>> the significant difference (in the amount of loud chatter and the average
>> expression on people's faces).
>>
>
> It might have something to do with the amount of sunlight.
>
Which is exactly the same over the course of a year.
Sure they have less of it in winter, but they have much more in the Summer.
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On 21-8-2010 15:56, Francois Labreque wrote:
> Tom Austin a écrit :
>> On 8/19/2010 3:47 AM, Warp wrote:
>>> Kevin Wampler<wam### [at] u washington edu> wrote:
>>>> Is there a typical sort of punchline to jokes about Finns?
>>>
>>> Not that I know of.
>>>
>>>> The main negative stereotypes I've heard is that
>>>> they're untalkative surely drunks (who you additionally don't want to
>>>> get into a war with), but this is based on about four web comics I read
>>>> a year ago, so I have no idea if that's actually what the stereotype
>>>> is.
>>>
>>> Well, the stereotypical Finn doesn't show emotions and always
>>> looks like
>>> he/she is mourning, and doesn't communicate.
>>>
>>> While that's an exaggeration, it's actually not *completely*
>>> fictitious.
>>> For example get a bus ride eg. in Spain and in Finland, and you'll
>>> notice
>>> the significant difference (in the amount of loud chatter and the
>>> average
>>> expression on people's faces).
>>>
>>
>> It might have something to do with the amount of sunlight.
>>
> Which is exactly the same over the course of a year.
>
> Sure they have less of it in winter, but they have much more in the Summer.
>
Only in hours not in intensity.
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andrel <byt### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> >> It might have something to do with the amount of sunlight.
> >>
> > Which is exactly the same over the course of a year.
> >
> > Sure they have less of it in winter, but they have much more in the Summer.
> >
> Only in hours not in intensity.
Climate can have a significant effect in the culture of a population
(even though saying so is not always fully politically correct because
of some implications).
In countries where winter is long and very cold, surviving is harder
than in countries where the climate is more moderate the entire year.
The climate causes a significant emphasis on agriculture and farming,
especially due to the harsh winter conditions. Surviving in such a
climate requires significantly more work. This inevitably affects the
culture of the people compared to warmer countries.
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On 22/08/2010 8:15 AM, Warp wrote:
> Climate can have a significant effect in the culture of a population
> (even though saying so is not always fully politically correct because
> of some implications).
>
I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?
--
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Stephen
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Stephen wrote:
> I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?
It is not PC to imply that people are not all equal and identical,
despite the obvious truth of this fact.
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Am 22.08.2010 12:39, schrieb Orchid XP v8:
> Stephen wrote:
>
>> I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?
>
> It is not PC to imply that people are not all equal and identical,
> despite the obvious truth of this fact.
Nicely put.
Which is why PC is bullshit. Though I guess it's not PC to claim that...
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On 22/08/2010 11:39 AM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>
>> I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?
>
> It is not PC to imply that people are not all equal and identical,
> despite the obvious truth of this fact.
>
Yes but that is not what Warp said nor implied, by my reading.
He said “Climate can have a significant effect in the culture of a
population”. People who live in different climates have different
cultures. What is non-PC about that?
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Warp <war### [at] tag povray org> wrote:
> In countries where winter is long and very cold, surviving is harder
> than in countries where the climate is more moderate the entire year.
> The climate causes a significant emphasis on agriculture and farming,
> especially due to the harsh winter conditions. Surviving in such a
> climate requires significantly more work. This inevitably affects the
> culture of the people compared to warmer countries.
no doubt. All the heat may also be an invitation for a siesta or a quick visit
to the beach or the local river. All of which is aggravated by the fact that a
global capitalist society demands europe-fashioned business suits everywhere, be
it cold or warm...
OTOH, I guess aside from farmers, programmers around the world still put about
the same amount of work everywhere. Isolated from the weather by air
conditioning, the most heat we experience is from the CPU and our brains...
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>>> I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?
>>
>> It is not PC to imply that people are not all equal and identical,
>> despite the obvious truth of this fact.
>>
>
> Yes but that is not what Warp said nor implied, by my reading.
> He said “Climate can have a significant effect in the culture of a
> population”. People who live in different climates have different
> cultures. What is non-PC about that?
It implies that different cultures are different. According to PC,
everything must be the same, identical, uniform, equal. To suggest that
people or cultures have differences is blasphemy.
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On 22/08/2010 5:45 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>> I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?
>>>
>>> It is not PC to imply that people are not all equal and identical,
>>> despite the obvious truth of this fact.
>>>
>>
>> Yes but that is not what Warp said nor implied, by my reading.
>> He said “Climate can have a significant effect in the culture of a
>> population”. People who live in different climates have different
>> cultures. What is non-PC about that?
>
> It implies that different cultures are different. According to PC,
> everything must be the same, identical, uniform, equal. To suggest that
> people or cultures have differences is blasphemy.
>
Cr*p!
It is saying that different cultures are inferior that is wrong not that
they are different.
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Stephen
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>>>>> I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?
>>>>
>>>> It is not PC to imply that people are not all equal and identical,
>>>> despite the obvious truth of this fact.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes but that is not what Warp said nor implied, by my reading.
>>> He said “Climate can have a significant effect in the culture of a
>>> population”. People who live in different climates have different
>>> cultures. What is non-PC about that?
>>
>> It implies that different cultures are different. According to PC,
>> everything must be the same, identical, uniform, equal. To suggest that
>> people or cultures have differences is blasphemy.
>>
>
> Cr*p!
> It is saying that different cultures are inferior that is wrong not that
> they are different.
You know that. I know that. But as far as politics is concerned, merely
implying "different" automatically means "different in a negative way".
Because, let's face it, difference is always negative, isn't it?
Stupid, really...
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On 22/08/2010 5:58 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>
>> Cr*p!
>> It is saying that different cultures are inferior that is wrong not
>> that they are different.
>
> You know that. I know that. But as far as politics is concerned, merely
> implying "different" automatically means "different in a negative way".
> Because, let's face it, difference is always negative, isn't it?
>
> Stupid, really...
>
I know what you are saying but the more people who pander to it the
worse it’ll get.
I feel your pain :-P
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Stephen <mca### [at] aoldot com> wrote:
> On 22/08/2010 8:15 AM, Warp wrote:
> > Climate can have a significant effect in the culture of a population
> > (even though saying so is not always fully politically correct because
> > of some implications).
> >
> I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?
Harsher climate forces people to be more hard-working and responsible,
which strengthens the sense of duty. It also usually results in people
being more amicable with their neighbors because everyone's survival is
important to the community as a whole.
In a more temperate climate, where there's no such an urgency in getting
things done before and during winter, people tend to be lazier and less
responsible, and procrastination is common.
Of course since saying this is not PC, most people will automatically
disagree.
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- Warp
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> implying "different" automatically means "different in a negative way".
> Because, let's face it, difference is always negative, isn't it?
Well, because it's different from the majority, and everyone thinks they are
right, so if you say "I'm right, you're different", it implies the minority
are not right. Unless you accept that there may be two entirely different
things, both of which are the best.
Nonsense, but not *that* nonsensical, if you're not very smart.
--
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Quoth the raven:
Need S'Mores!
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Darren New wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>> Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
>>> A number of game companies that have japanese-sounding names
>>> (including Atari) are all "western" companies in Europe or the Americas.
>>
>> Any other examples besides Atari?
>>
>
> I don't remember what the others were. They might have gone out of
> business when arcade consoles got overrun by compputers, but I remember
> there were three or four I'd heard of.
I remember now that I'm not so sleep deprived. There were a number of
companies writing games for Atari 8-bit computers and for arcade consoles
who picked up on the "let's sound japanese" meme. I don't remember the
names, but I remember looking it up in college (like early 1980's) when
looking for more games from the same company and finding out they were all
American.
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Need S'Mores!
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On 22/08/2010 7:09 PM, Warp wrote:
> Stephen<mca### [at] aoldot com> wrote:
>> On 22/08/2010 8:15 AM, Warp wrote:
>>> Climate can have a significant effect in the culture of a population
>>> (even though saying so is not always fully politically correct because
>>> of some implications).
>>>
>
>> I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?
>
> Harsher climate forces people to be more hard-working and responsible,
> which strengthens the sense of duty. It also usually results in people
> being more amicable with their neighbors because everyone's survival is
> important to the community as a whole.
>
And by my observations more suspicious of strangers but that maybe just
a small town mentality.
> In a more temperate climate, where there's no such an urgency in getting
> things done before and during winter, people tend to be lazier and less
> responsible, and procrastination is common.
>
I would agree if when you say “less responsible and procrastination” you
mean they see things in a different light than we in the old world do.
And don’t think the things we think are important in the way we do.
I’ve lived for a short while in Spain and worked in Jamaica, Australia
and Nigeria. There, in very agreeable climates, people are very friendly
to strangers and have a laid back attitude. Too laid back for my
upbringing, at times. :-)
> Of course since saying this is not PC, most people will automatically
> disagree.
>
You sound like Andrew sometimes. :-P
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Darren New wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> implying "different" automatically means "different in a negative
>> way". Because, let's face it, difference is always negative, isn't it?
>
> Well, because it's different from the majority, and everyone thinks they
> are right, so if you say "I'm right, you're different", it implies the
> minority are not right. Unless you accept that there may be two
> entirely different things, both of which are the best.
>
> Nonsense, but not *that* nonsensical, if you're not very smart.
People are always afraid of what's different. :-P
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Warp <war### [at] tag povray org> wrote:
> In a more temperate climate, where there's no such an urgency in getting
> things done before and during winter, people tend to be lazier and less
> responsible, and procrastination is common.
>
> Of course since saying this is not PC, most people will automatically
> disagree.
oh, no. I heartily agree. I get to procrastinate as often as I can... :)
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On 08/19/2010 09:52 AM, Invisible wrote:
>>> Invisible is invisibly building a complicated graphics library...
>>
>> Elaborate, please....
>
> Bezier splines, my friend.
>
Odd, you've written, IIRC, an operating system and a logic sym, and now
you're covering ground that I've been over.
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>>> Elaborate, please....
>>
>> Bezier splines, my friend.
>
> Odd, you've written, IIRC, an operating system and a logic sym, and now
> you're covering ground that I've been over.
Ah yes - an operating system consisting mainly of... a boot loader. Heh.
Warp was right. He usually is...
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