> I wouldn't know, I stopped using it a few years ago.  It was buggy as 
> he**, and slow as molasses at the time.

It doesn't seem to have got any faster:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=480

> Office 2007, on the other hand, works great.  With the exception of 
> Outlook (which I love, but don't use due to its crippling speed issues).

What's slow in 2007?  I have Outlook 2003 at the moment and would be 
interested to know before our IT people force us to upgrade.  So far I have 
no speed issues in 2003, even with almost 10GB of emails now!

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>> I wouldn't know, I stopped using it a few years ago.  It was buggy as 
>> he**, and slow as molasses at the time.
> 
> It doesn't seem to have got any faster:

Interesting...

I find OO slightly annoying at times because it lacks various features 
(or they're just well hidden), but I hadn't experienced any difficulty 
with either slowness or bugginess. (Indeed, IME it's been significantly 
*less* buggy than M$ Office...)

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scott wrote:
> What's slow in 2007?  I have Outlook 2003 at the moment and would be 
> interested to know before our IT people force us to upgrade.  So far I 
> have no speed issues in 2003, even with almost 10GB of emails now!

Checking emails.  For me, it took around 3-5 seconds per email to 
download from the server, which is crippling when you have a couple 
hundred emails per day.

Thunderbird managed to download all my emails in about 10 seconds total.

There were other issues as well, but that was the big one for me.  If 
you search for "slow outlook 2007" on the web, you'll get lots of 
examples - it seems that everyone has a different problem with it.

-- 
Chambers

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Invisible wrote:
> Oh, I see. It's actually called "Home and Student Edition". Interesting. 
> When my mum tried to buy this, it was "Student Edition" and you actually 
> had to provide proof of enrolement, etc. Apparently they've changed 
> their policy...

The Student versions that require proof of enrollment tend to be even 
more heavily discounted.

-- 
Chambers

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>> What's slow in 2007?  I have Outlook 2003 at the moment and would be 
>> interested to know before our IT people force us to upgrade.  So far I 
>> have no speed issues in 2003, even with almost 10GB of emails now!
>
> Checking emails.  For me, it took around 3-5 seconds per email to download 
> from the server, which is crippling when you have a couple hundred emails 
> per day.

That would be really annoying, I don't think our IT guys could get away with 
that here - everyone would demand they fix it, as like you most people have 
hundreds of emails per day.

> Thunderbird managed to download all my emails in about 10 seconds total.

Does Thunderbird work with Exchange?

> There were other issues as well, but that was the big one for me.  If you 
> search for "slow outlook 2007" on the web, you'll get lots of examples - 
> it seems that everyone has a different problem with it.

I guess that's why our IT people are still testing Office 2007 then :-)

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>> Tell you what, if you'd like to come over sometime and show our Report 
>> Writers how to make Word stop crashing constantly, I'm sure they'd be 
>> delighted...
>
> Sure, post it here (plus any template files) minus any confidential 
> text/images and I'm sure I won't be the only one willing to give it a look 
> over.

You fixed it yourself?

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>>> Tell you what, if you'd like to come over sometime and show our 
>>> Report Writers how to make Word stop crashing constantly, I'm sure 
>>> they'd be delighted...
>>
>> Sure, post it here (plus any template files) minus any confidential 
>> text/images and I'm sure I won't be the only one willing to give it a 
>> look over.
> 
> You fixed it yourself?

I've long since given up hope of ever fixing this. Besides, I can't hand 
over confidential files. It's more than my job is worth.

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>> You fixed it yourself?
>
> I've long since given up hope of ever fixing this.

OOC what have you already tried to do to fix this?  Contrary to what you 
might believe, it's not normal for Word to crash, and when it does crash 
there is usually a logical explanation (like a corrupt file or template, or 
buggy printer driver) which can often be fixed.

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>>> You fixed it yourself?
>>
>> I've long since given up hope of ever fixing this.
> 
> OOC what have you already tried to do to fix this?  Contrary to what you 
> might believe, it's not normal for Word to crash, and when it does crash 
> there is usually a logical explanation (like a corrupt file or template, 
> or buggy printer driver) which can often be fixed.

Word 2.0 used to crash on me back when I was at school. At college, it 
was still crashing. At uni we had Word 95, and it still crashed. And at 
work we've gone through a few different versions of Word, all of which 
crash from time to time. (Although I must admit, it seems to be becoming 
less frequent in the last few years.)

We did have an old Toshiba printer which used to crash even Excel and 
Notepad. We got rid of it. Several of our customers give us Word 
templates which they demand we use; certain of these seem to cause Word 
to behave strangely or just crash.

However, every now and then, Word will just crash, all by itself, 
without any observable cause. It's just how Word is. Multiple versions 
of the product, on multiple PCs, with various combinations of hotfixes 
installed. The Word MSVP website has entire sections dedicated to how to 
stop Word crashing, and how to recover corrupted documents. This section 
exists _for a reason_. :-(

But then again, Windows itself sometimes crashes. (Although that's quite 
a lot rarer. Windows XP tends to be quite stable now, which is 
interesting considering how crash-happy it was when it first came 
out...) Usually you never do find out why it crashed.

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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:06:17 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> This section exists _for
> a reason_. :-(

Don't forget though that for those people who it doesn't crash, they 
don't come in and say "hey, just wanted to let you know, it works fine 
here for me every time".  That the group exists and that there are posts 
in it doesn't mean that everyone has these problems or that they're 
"normal".

Jim

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