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On 4/21/2009 3:30 AM, somebody wrote:
> "guns don't kill people, people do".
By the way, does anyone know where the quote "Guns don't kill people,
*I* kill people!" is from? :) I can't remember atm...
Anyway, it sounds like you have some very strong ideals. Those are the
kind that often clash with reality.
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...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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On 4/21/2009 7:31 AM, somebody wrote:
> Now you are watering down the argument. Yes, "cars also kill people" too.
> No, it's not the same thing.
Just out of curiosity, but why isn't it the same thing?
By the way, are you aware that through many different comparisons,
doctors always come out more dangerous than gun owners?
http://www.naturalnews.com/021206.html
This site attempts to debunk the "myth," and still ends up showing
doctors as being at least twelves times as deadly as gun owners!
Myself, I can safely say that if everyone who worked at the bank with me
had a gun on them, we would definitely be safer (and we wouldn't worry
about robberies the way we do now!).
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...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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On 4/21/2009 3:17 PM, somebody wrote:
> "Darren New"<dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote in message
>> Linux distros and World of Warcraft both use torrent technology to
>> distribute their stuff. Amazon supports it directly for stuff you want to
>> share without paying for all the bandwidth. It *is* just a technology.
>
> Those few legitimate uses do not constitute a need.
Of course there's a need. The need is for the conservation of
bandwidth. Just because your ISP doesn't send you a bill for every byte
of traffic over their pipe, doesn't mean that bandwidth isn't costing
someone something.
P2P filesharing (which, as others have pointed out, is distinct from P2P
in general) is all about conserving bandwidth. It doesn't care what
information is being shared.
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...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:35:47 -0700, Chambers wrote:
> On 4/21/2009 3:30 AM, somebody wrote:
>> "guns don't kill people, people do".
>
> By the way, does anyone know where the quote "Guns don't kill people,
> *I* kill people!" is from? :) I can't remember atm...
>
> Anyway, it sounds like you have some very strong ideals. Those are the
> kind that often clash with reality.
Eddie Izzard credits the NRA for that quote.
Jim
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> Those few legitimate uses do not constitute a need.
Yes they do.
> Don't know or care about
> WoW, but I've never needed torrent, and I've downloaded several Linux
> distros.
Whoopeee for you :-)
I have mostly used torrents for downloading game demos. Modern game demos
are HUGE, and nobody seems to want to host them for free, or if they do the
download speed is tiny. Finding them as a torrent is easy, and then it
usually uses up 100% of my bandwidth so the download is done in no time.
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> People will bitch up a storm when the RIAA shuts down a Linux torrent
>> server because the RIAA didn't bother to check whether it was actually
>> distributing something copyrighted.
>
> Hey, if it's bittorrent, it *must* be illegal, right? ;)
The day someone puts up a FTP server full of copyrighted material, they'll
ban the FTP protocol too?
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scott wrote:
> Imagine if Google started crawling torrent files too and these showed up
> in search results, the RIAA would be round there quicker than a
> coffee-burnt American.
http://google.com/search?q=filetype:torrent
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somebody wrote:
> *If* Google facilitates piracy, they would be on the wrong.
Do a Google search for: <some software> serial|keygen|crack...
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"Nicolas Alvarez" <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message
news:49ef5987@news.povray.org...
> somebody wrote:
> > *If* Google facilitates piracy, they would be on the wrong.
>
> Do a Google search for: <some software> serial|keygen|crack...
Hmm, good point. Up until recently, it was hard to argue that that's
actively facilitating piracy. But I believe presently the technology and
power is there for Google to block indexing of known pirate sites. I think
inaction on their part currently is borderline, and if the software
companies had their act together, they could help fill the legislative
vacuum concerning such matters. A big part of this legislation should be
protecting those providers that implement such filters. That's why I think
the EU directive a couple of threads up would be a good idea to implement. I
think it's inevitable that Internet as a lawless zone won't last forever.
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On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:30:32 -0600, somebody wrote:
> But I believe presently the technology and power is there for Google to
> block indexing of known pirate sites
I disagree.
Dealing with sites that actively provide cracks/serial numbers/etc is
like playing a game of whack-a-mole.
I actually have to - in my day job - deal with sites like this. Not for
software, but for test "braindumps". Those braindumps are an illegal use
of copyrighted material that is provided to the test-taker under a non-
disclosure (the candidate taking the exam must agree to the NDA prior to
taking the exam).
We shut one down, and two pop up to replace it. Often run by the same
people, and often run out of the same country.
I get to meet with corporate lawyers next week to discuss how we approach
this problem.
Solving the problem is not as easy as one might think.
Jim
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