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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Excuseme... Have you met Dr. Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D ?
Date: 3 Mar 2009 01:11:44
Message: <49acca20@news.povray.org>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EZyFzkUC4c&eurl=http://brainmind.com/

  Videos, Movies, Documentaries:
http://brainmind.com/AllBrainMindMovies.html

Amazing guy nad gives answer to many questions I had about evolution, 
but still doesn't makes me think God doesn't exist or are only evolved 
Humans with 100% expressed DNA, God is simply beyond the material world, 
He created it and the spiritual world too, where all these evolved 
"gods" go when they DIE. God doesn't dies.

I will NOT reply to anyone to start another endless debate about it, I 
just don't have the time or the will for an almost pointless discussion.

And yes, I've seen the video about "God & The Big Bang myth".


Please just enjoy some very beautiful and amazing scientific enlightenment.

God bless you my brothers.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Excuseme... Have you met Dr. Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D ?
Date: 3 Mar 2009 16:19:36
Message: <49ad9ee8@news.povray.org>
Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EZyFzkUC4c&eurl=http://brainmind.com/

>   Videos, Movies, Documentaries:
> http://brainmind.com/AllBrainMindMovies.html

> Amazing guy nad gives answer to many questions I had about evolution, 

  "Life on Earth came from other planets", after surviving a supernova
explosion and hundreds of millions of years of intestellar space travel?

  Uh, yeah.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Excuseme... Have you met Dr. Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D ?
Date: 3 Mar 2009 17:01:44
Message: <49ADA8BF.60909@hotmail.com>
On 3-3-2009 7:12, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EZyFzkUC4c&eurl=http://brainmind.com/

Nice images is about the best I can say about this. Turned it off after 
a few minutes. It has about as much in common with accepted scientific 
theories as, say, the bible.

>  Videos, Movies, Documentaries:
> http://brainmind.com/AllBrainMindMovies.html
> 
> Amazing guy nad gives answer to many questions I had about evolution, 
> but still doesn't makes me think God doesn't exist or are only evolved 
> Humans with 100% expressed DNA, God is simply beyond the material world, 
> He created it and the spiritual world too, where all these evolved 
> "gods" go when they DIE. God doesn't dies.
> 
> I will NOT reply to anyone to start another endless debate about it, I 
> just don't have the time or the will for an almost pointless discussion.
> 
> And yes, I've seen the video about "God & The Big Bang myth".

My god what a load of nonsense. Perhaps this guy should read a bit of 
science before publishing anything. I got about as far a 4 minutes and 
there were so many thing already that he got completely wrong that I 
also stopped this one. I do hope that this is not your main source of 
current scientific knowledge. Though I particularly liked the concept 
that because there are more than 50 ideas about how the universe begun, 
all must be wrong. BTW such remarks are useful as indications of how 
well someone understands real science. If someone remarks something like 
this, you know it is probably a highly intelligent person that lives in 
his own world, with little or no interaction with the real world.

> Please just enjoy some very beautiful and amazing scientific enlightenment.

I did, years ago, it was called a university. ;) If you refer to this 
guy, sorry, not much to do with science as far as I can see.

> God bless you my brothers.

Bless you too. I hope you find better guides than this one. Can I 
recommend browsing www.ted.com?


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Excuseme... Have you met Dr. Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D ?
Date: 3 Mar 2009 17:05:23
Message: <49ada9a3$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   "Life on Earth came from other planets", after surviving a supernova
> explosion and hundreds of millions of years of intestellar space travel?
> 
>   Uh, yeah.

That's why the game is called "spore". :-)

Isn't this the sort of thing we tease Andrew about, tho? When he conflates 
"That's really amazing and I can't imagine how I could do that" with "it 
must therefore be impossible"?

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Excuseme... Have you met Dr. Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D ?
Date: 4 Mar 2009 11:04:26
Message: <49aea68a@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >   "Life on Earth came from other planets", after surviving a supernova
> > explosion and hundreds of millions of years of intestellar space travel?
> > 
> >   Uh, yeah.

> That's why the game is called "spore". :-)

> Isn't this the sort of thing we tease Andrew about, tho? When he conflates 
> "That's really amazing and I can't imagine how I could do that" with "it 
> must therefore be impossible"?

  Some kind of proof or even evidence would be nice.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Excuseme... Have you met Dr. Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D ?
Date: 4 Mar 2009 11:12:23
Message: <49aea867$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>>   "Life on Earth came from other planets", after surviving a supernova
>>> explosion and hundreds of millions of years of intestellar space travel?
>>>
>>>   Uh, yeah.
> 
>> That's why the game is called "spore". :-)
> 
>> Isn't this the sort of thing we tease Andrew about, tho? When he conflates 
>> "That's really amazing and I can't imagine how I could do that" with "it 
>> must therefore be impossible"?
> 
>   Some kind of proof or even evidence would be nice.
> 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByUod2VmBQY&eurl=http://brainmind.com/OriginsofLife.html

good enough?


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Excuseme... Have you met Dr. Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D ?
Date: 4 Mar 2009 11:45:40
Message: <49aeb034@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   Some kind of proof or even evidence would be nice.

Proof that life *did* come from spores through space? Or proof that spores 
can survive indefinitely in space?  I imagine we'd have heard if they found 
the former, but the latter isn't difficult.

I didn't actually watch hours of the guy's video. I just know it's not hard 
to freeze-dry spores and revive them decades later with no apparent harm, so 
there's no reason to believe it's impossible that (say) RNA wouldn't last 
indefinitely if caught in a crevasse of a meteor blown away by solar wind.

Of course, the video game at this point has made it difficult to come up 
with search terms that'll find anything useful. Especially when you start 
getting things like NASA spokespeople demoing the video game.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Excuseme... Have you met Dr. Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D ?
Date: 4 Mar 2009 14:33:49
Message: <49aed79d$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Isn't this the sort of thing we tease Andrew about, tho? When he 
> conflates "That's really amazing and I can't imagine how I could do 
> that" with "it must therefore be impossible"?

On the other hand, the cool thing about science is it keeps progressing.

http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Natural_Selection_General_Force_Behind_Formation_Of_New_Species.html

For most everything a fundamentalist says "has no evidence", evidence turns 
up surprisingly promptly. :-)   {Which is not to say Warp is a 
fundamentalist here.}

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Excuseme... Have you met Dr. Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D ?
Date: 4 Mar 2009 16:02:51
Message: <49aeec7b@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> For most everything a fundamentalist says "has no evidence", evidence turns 
> up surprisingly promptly. :-)   {Which is not to say Warp is a 
> fundamentalist here.}

  Seemingly your definition of fundamentalist is someone who doubts that
life on Earth came from outer space?

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Excuseme... Have you met Dr. Rhawn Joseph, Ph.D ?
Date: 4 Mar 2009 16:20:43
Message: <49aef0ab$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> For most everything a fundamentalist says "has no evidence", evidence turns 
>> up surprisingly promptly. :-)   {Which is not to say Warp is a 
>> fundamentalist here.}
> 
>   Seemingly your definition of fundamentalist is someone who doubts that
> life on Earth came from outer space?

Um, no?

Suspecting something like this would be your first reaction, I *explicitly 
disclaimed* that I was talking about anything you'd said. I'm not sure how 
much more clear I can be.

As far as I know, there isn't any good evidence that life came from outer 
space. As far as I know, there *is* good evidence life *might* have come 
from outer space. Neither of these statements have anything to do with the 
link I posted that you replied to.

My definition of "fundamentalist" is (in part) someone who takes the 
statement "You don't know yet" and replaces it with "therefore I must be 
right, even tho I don't know yet either."

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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