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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:19:10 -0600, Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> You don't buy that it *could* be a huge headache? If you think a
> counterexample suffices to make your case, I can start itemizing quite a
> few real cases where it was a headache.
I buy that it *could* be, I missed that in your original statement. My
error.
My point was that it doesn't *have* to be.
Jim
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:12:03 -0200, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> There's even an iPhoneLinux project...
>
> (although I think they haven't yet got it to *work at all*, last I
> checked they were just playing with bootloaders)
Yeah. I really like running Rockbox on my iPod mini, but it doesn't work
on the touch yet. I have thought about running iPodLinux, but Rockbox
does a good enough job for me with the one patch I've applied (speed up/
slow down the playback without a pitch shift).
Jim
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:16:00 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>
>> There's even an iPhoneLinux project...
>>
>> (although I think they haven't yet got it to *work at all*, last I
>> checked they were just playing with bootloaders)
>
> I find it amusing that some 3rd party firmware for my MP3 player works
> better than the firmware written by the people who designed and
> manufactured the player...
Now that's just crazy talk, after all, surely it must be impossible to
figure out the interfaces on a proprietary hardware device like a Sansa
or an iPod and replace the firmware with something written completely
from scratch. That'd take, like, 50 years to figure out even with
documentation, but there's no documentation available unless you are
Steve Jobs' first-born kid, and even then there's an NDA.
Sorry, I couldn't resist. ;-)
Jim
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:45:30 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> This should be 100% impossible, but somehow they did it. And they did it
> better than the makers themselves...
Damn, you beat me to it. ;-)
Jim
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:04:02 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Windows, on the other hand, is a vast lump of software purposely
> designed to be difficult to understand.
There's the fallacy of your argument. Windows' code isn't purposely
designed to be difficult to understand - that's something that generally
naturally happens when a project becomes very large.
The Linux kernel could be said to be very difficult to understand because
of its complexity, but ask any of the developers if they intentionally
make it difficult to understand, and you'll probably get laughed off the
planet.
Again, as much as I dislike Microsoft (mostly for their business
practices more than anything), I can't attribute to malice the problems
with their software. Whether you develop closed-source or open-source
software, to get your changes committed to the official source tree, you
have to have a pretty good idea of what you're doing. In the OSS world,
you don't gain points by trying to obfuscate your code and make it
difficult to understand. The same is true in the closed-source world.
Jim
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:42:40 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
>>> Wow... The concept of using a free OS on a product specifically
>>> designed for vendor lock-in seems astounding to me...
>>
>> Nobody can stop free software from running anywhere, not even Apple or
>> Dell!! :D
>
> Actually they can; whether it's legal or not is another matter...
And whether they can enforce it is yet another....
Jim
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:58:50 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> You missed mine. If it's buggy on Windows, why would it not be buggy on
> every OS in Creation?
Um, because suspend to disk/RAM is largely implemented in software, not
in hardware?
Or are you telling me that this feature that I've used for months on this
D610 laptop really isn't working?
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Now I'm going to break your brain.
One of those "Why would you make such a thing??" projects.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Do I have your permission to put that as a tagline in my sig?
Sure. I didn't make it up, tho.
> Attribution will be included, if desired.
You can attribute it to "elbows". Don't ask. ;-)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:33:09 -0800, Darren New wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Now I'm going to break your brain.
>
> One of those "Why would you make such a thing??" projects.
Well, I could see it as being a way to better understand Windows,
personally. Few things will teach you more than trying to reimplement
something someone's already done.
Jim
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