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...PnP device drivers are programmed into the device themselves, not
bundled as generic packages with windows
...one can decompile windows and see the original comments from the code
...75% of the space windows occupies is junk comments that can be
removed after aforementioned decompile
...a unix kernel has no form of security whatsoever; any security,
including non-superuser accounts, must be programmed by the admin
separately or dropped in as modules that the admin configures, and
contain 'back doors' that those in the know can readily access
...2 semesters of C and Pascal programming at university is sufficient
to establish certain knowledge that any system security that the OS
itself handles is bad, third-party software is definitely the way to go
*flabbergasted after dinner conversation with housemate*
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Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
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Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> ...PnP device drivers are programmed into the device themselves, not
> bundled as generic packages with windows
> ...one can decompile windows and see the original comments from the code
> ...75% of the space windows occupies is junk comments that can be
> removed after aforementioned decompile
> ...a unix kernel has no form of security whatsoever; any security,
> including non-superuser accounts, must be programmed by the admin
> separately or dropped in as modules that the admin configures, and
> contain 'back doors' that those in the know can readily access
> ...2 semesters of C and Pascal programming at university is sufficient
> to establish certain knowledge that any system security that the OS
> itself handles is bad, third-party software is definitely the way to go
> *flabbergasted after dinner conversation with housemate*
The sad thing is that bosses usually eagerly hire that kind of people
because they like what they are saying.
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- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> The sad thing is that bosses usually eagerly hire that kind of people
> because they like what they are saying.
quod enim mavult homo verum esse, id potius credit.
Sad but true...
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:16:19 -0400, Tim Cook wrote:
> *flabbergasted after dinner conversation with housemate*
Egads, you know my B-I-L Neil? He once made the assertion that if you
load a document created with a newer version of Word for Mac (but *only*
for Mac) into an older version of Word for Mac, the *document* will
upgrade your older version of Word to the newer version so you can read/
edit the document.
That conversation (held over Thanksgiving dinner about 9 years ago)
caused me to go into the pantry and start hitting my head against the
wall.
Jim
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Tim Cook wrote:
> ....PnP device drivers are programmed into the device themselves, not
> bundled as generic packages with windows
This is actually true for some types of USB devices. I.e., USB has a
mechanism whereby it can provide the driver to the machine when you plug
it in. (I think the driver gets presented as files on a "removable disk"
interface, which the OS is supposed to recognise and install and restart
the USB device afterwards.)
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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Darren New wrote:
> This is actually true for some types of USB devices. I.e., USB has a
> mechanism whereby it can provide the driver to the machine when you plug
> it in. (I think the driver gets presented as files on a "removable disk"
> interface, which the OS is supposed to recognise and install and restart
> the USB device afterwards.)
Interesting. And how do you account for the fact that the USB device
could be connected to any possible computer architecture, running any
possible OS?
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Darren New wrote:
> Tim Cook wrote:
>> ....PnP device drivers are programmed into the device themselves, not
>> bundled as generic packages with windows
>
> This is actually true for some types of USB devices. I.e., USB has a
> mechanism whereby it can provide the driver to the machine when you plug
> it in. (I think the driver gets presented as files on a "removable disk"
> interface, which the OS is supposed to recognise and install and restart
> the USB device afterwards.)
yeah the wireless keyboard/mouse that came with this machine had a USB
stick that was the drivers/RF receiver. pretty slick. but I think
housemate was saying in general. that those .cab files windows hoards
aren't full of drivers for 50,000 flavours of hardware.
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Tim Cook
http://empyrean.digitalartsuk.com
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
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> Interesting. And how do you account for the fact that the USB device
> could be connected to any possible computer architecture, running any
> possible OS?
>
Usually they just assume You're running Windows on x86.
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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
http://www.zbxt.net
aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Interesting. And how do you account for the fact that the USB device
> could be connected to any possible computer architecture, running any
> possible OS?
The same way you account for a CD that can boot on multiple
architectures. I imagine if the driver for your OS isn't on the "usb
disk drive", then you need to get it somewhere else.
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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Tim Cook wrote:
> housemate was saying in general.
Yah. I'm just saying that it's not completely insane, but just possibly
someone who is ignorant of the details trying to understand something
that requires knowing the details to get right. :-)
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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