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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:28:52 +0200, "M_a_r_c"
<jac### [at] wanadoo fr> wrote:
>The closest connection between Gaelic and organs I can see is the Irish
>uilleann pipes with its bellow, drones and regulators.
Don't forget the Northumbrian Smallpipes :)
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Regards
Stephen
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5t5uv3ttvlfudqehdrvrbr79bo1t10qsut@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:28:52 +0200, "M_a_r_c"
> <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote:
>
>>The closest connection between Gaelic and organs I can see is the Irish
>>uilleann pipes with its bellow, drones and regulators.
>
> Don't forget the Northumbrian Smallpipes :)
> --
I didn't!
I played with a friend that plays Smallpipes among other wind
instruments.(maybe I have evidence of that somewere)
But playing Uilleann pipes with its bellow, bag, opening or closing end of
chanter, regulators and drones-stop is like struggling with giant squid in
20000 leagues under the sea ;-)
Marc
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:21:05 +0200, "M_a_r_c"
<jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote:
>But playing Uilleann pipes with its bellow, bag, opening or closing end of
>chanter, regulators and drones-stop is like struggling with giant squid in
>20000 leagues under the sea ;-)
LOL. That reminds me of the Shetland fiddler who plays and dances at
the same time. (An old tradition up there :) I heard her on the radio
a couple of years ago. Yup! Playing and dancing at the same time on
the radio :)
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Regards
Stephen
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:28:52 +0200, M_a_r_c wrote:
> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 47feb313$1@news.povray.org...
>>>
>> I saw that a bit later, actually they did seem very dissimilar from the
>> Gaelic I had seen before, clearly the sample was too small for an
>> automated language identification to be made. :-)
>>
>> Jim
> I'm interested in what made you think of Gaelic The closest connection
> between Gaelic and organs I can see is the Irish uilleann pipes with its
> bellow, drones and regulators.
I plugged the words into a language identification engine, and it
identified the words as being "briten" (I think was the result) - which
is derived from Gaelic and a few other languages.
Jim
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47ff9249@news.povray.org...
> I plugged the words into a language identification engine, and it
> identified the words as being "briten" (I think was the result) - which
> is derived from Gaelic and a few other languages.
>
> Jim
I think the language identification engine failed because there were 2 very
different languages : a Germanic one (German for "Scharff "*) and a Latin
one (French for "Fonds Quint(e)" and "Voix humaine" )
Marc
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:21:31 +0200, M_a_r_c wrote:
> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 47ff9249@news.povray.org...
>> I plugged the words into a language identification engine, and it
>> identified the words as being "briten" (I think was the result) - which
>> is derived from Gaelic and a few other languages.
>>
>> Jim
>
> I think the language identification engine failed because there were 2
> very different languages : a Germanic one (German for "Scharff "*) and a
> Latin one (French for "Fonds Quint(e)" and "Voix humaine" )
That's possible as well, though with just "Voix humaine" it identified
incorrectly - I think it probably is because the engine I used looks at
structures rather than words.
Jim
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47ffd8fa$1@news.povray.org...
> That's possible as well, though with just "Voix humaine" it identified
> incorrectly - I think it probably is because the engine I used looks at
> structures rather than words.
>
> Jim
I am not used to language identification engines but I think this one is a
bad one :
"Voix humaine" just stands for "human voice", typically latin roots language
("voce humana" in Italian).
Marc
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47ffd8fa$1@news.povray.org...
> I think it probably is because the engine I used looks at
> structures rather than words.
I think a good expert system should have more than one look on a problem :-)
Marc
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:44:09 +0200, M_a_r_c wrote:
> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 47ffd8fa$1@news.povray.org...
>> I think it probably is because the engine I used looks at structures
>> rather than words.
>
> I think a good expert system should have more than one look on a problem
> :-)
Well, I'd agree with that. Thing is, I just went with the first hit on
my search. :-)
Jim
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:40:50 +0200, M_a_r_c wrote:
> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 47ffd8fa$1@news.povray.org...
>> That's possible as well, though with just "Voix humaine" it identified
>> incorrectly - I think it probably is because the engine I used looks at
>> structures rather than words.
>>
>> Jim
>
> I am not used to language identification engines but I think this one is
> a bad one :
> "Voix humaine" just stands for "human voice", typically latin roots
> language ("voce humana" in Italian).
That was my first reaction, actually - that it was French. But not
speaking French, I wanted a second opinion, and rather than ask my
stepson (who is studying French) or his girlfriend (who has studied it
for a while), I took a suboptimal solution instead.
That'll teach me. ;-)
Jim
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