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From: St 
Subject: Re: Phrases
Date: 4 Apr 2008 11:17:55
Message: <47f654b3@news.povray.org>
"Nicolas Alvarez" <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote in message 
news:47f65058@news.povray.org...

>> "Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
>>>   "make out"
>>
>>     As it says Andrew, as it says.  ;)
>
> I actually had to look that one up (months ago). Phrasal verbs are always 
> confusing. There is a dozen prepositions you can put in front of verbs to 
> make them mean something completely different.

  Well, yes, there's that too.

   "Did you make out with robbing that cab driver?"

   I don't think anyone thinks of it in that context though. <shrug>


      ~Steve~


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Phrases
Date: 4 Apr 2008 11:57:26
Message: <47f65df6$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>   "pony up"
> What the heck is that supposed to mean?

It means "add your investment to the pile". "Pony" was slang for some 
amount of money I don't remember.

>   "put out"
> Where I'm from, if somebody is "put out" it means they're dissapointed. 

That's the adjective. The verb "to put out" means to be willing to 
engage in sexual relations.

> And then there's things like
>   "stick it to 'em!"
> Now what is that supposed to mean? 

It means leave someone else with the problem. The "it" being the problem.

>   "riding shotgun"

https://www.wellsfargo.com/about/history/stagecoach/

Back when money actually *was* gold, people would move it between banks 
with stagecoaches.

See the two drivers? One is steering the horses. The other is riding 
shotgun. You had to deal with the one riding shotgun if you tried to 
steal the luggage/gold.

>   "make out"
> actually mean? From context I have some idea, but I'm unsure of the 
> exact meaning. Similarly,

"Necking" is another term for it. Doing sexual things without actually 
being sexual.


>   "third base"

In baseball, you travel between first base, second base, third base, and 
home plate.  Not unlike the wickets in cricket if you know about that.

In a sexual connotation, there's kissing, fondling of breasts, fondling 
of crotch, and actually "home base". Or something like that.

> and, while we're on the subject,
>   "off base"

In baseball, if you're not actually in contact with the base (the bag of 
cloth), if you get tagged by the ball, you're "out" (i.e., you lose your 
chance to score a point).  Runners will often take a few steps closer to 
the next base in order to arrive faster, and occasionally get tagged 
out. Hence, if you're "off base" it means you're somewhat wrong in a bad 
way.

> Hmm... I need to get out more. :-S

You just need more girlfriends, sports, and fire arms.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Phrases
Date: 4 Apr 2008 12:17:17
Message: <rhocv3laigqepcsuojg8ss1j5ihcekm60a@4ax.com>
On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:57:26 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>
wrote:

>> And then there's things like
>>   "stick it to 'em!"
>> Now what is that supposed to mean? 
>
>It means leave someone else with the problem. The "it" being the problem.

As Steve said, here it means or used to mean, stab him. Altho I hear
your version more and more often.
I wonder if it's divergence then convergence or just convergence.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Phrases
Date: 4 Apr 2008 15:45:54
Message: <47F693A1.60007@hotmail.com>
Bill Pragnell wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Bill Pragnell wrote:
>>> Invisible wrote:
>>>> "there's more than one way to skin a cat". (Why in the name of God 
>>>> would anybody wish to skin a cat??)
>>>
>>> If you're going to eat a cat, it's best to skin it first.
>>
>> ...which leads us to "why in the name of sweet purity would you want 
>> to *eat* a cat?? There's no friggin' MEAT on it!"
> 
> They must have at least as much meat as a rabbit. And rabbits are good 
> eatin'.
> 
> Incidentally, if you're in some foreign food bazaar looking at what look 
> like skinned rabbits hanging up, there's a simple way to make sure 
> they're not cats. Cats' kidneys are side-by-side across the spine, like 
> ours. Rabbits' kidneys are also separated by several inches along the 
> spine, asymmetrically.
> 

Why would you want to make the distinction? They taste much like rabbit, 
or so I am told.


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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: Phrases
Date: 4 Apr 2008 16:18:43
Message: <47f69b33$1@news.povray.org>
> BTW, I agree about the cat thing. Now, if the phrase was "There's more 
> than one
> way to skin a chihuahua"...
>
> (Kidding, of course. Sane people don't inflict pain on living things no 
> matter
> HOW irritating the whiny snarling ill-tempered little vermin are.)

101 Uses for a Dead Cat, this is really funny stuff.
http://www.amazon.com/101-Uses-Dead-Simon-Bond/dp/0517545160


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Phrases
Date: 4 Apr 2008 16:22:10
Message: <ds6dv3po2epul0ai1o42vqob248d4vtsqt@4ax.com>
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:18:42 -0700, "Tim Attwood"
<tim### [at] comcastnet> wrote:

>
>101 Uses for a Dead Cat, this is really funny stuff.
>http://www.amazon.com/101-Uses-Dead-Simon-Bond/dp/0517545160 
>

How old is that? I remember when it came out.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Phrases
Date: 4 Apr 2008 20:34:40
Message: <47f6d730@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> The English language contains some pretty strange phrases. For example, 
> "there's more than one way to skin a cat". (Why in the name of God would 
> anybody wish to skin a cat??)

I dunno about doing it in God's name, but a cat skin, properly tanned, 
is very useful when teaching children about static electricity.

Regards,
John


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Phrases
Date: 4 Apr 2008 20:40:38
Message: <47f6d896@news.povray.org>

> Invisible wrote:
>> The English language contains some pretty strange phrases. For 
>> example, "there's more than one way to skin a cat". (Why in the name 
>> of God would anybody wish to skin a cat??)
> 
> I dunno about doing it in God's name, but a cat skin, properly tanned, 
> is very useful when teaching children about static electricity.

http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/12/03/no-moar-rub-kitteh-wif-baloon-plz/


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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: Phrases
Date: 4 Apr 2008 21:33:02
Message: <47f6e4de$1@news.povray.org>
> How old is that? I remember when it came out.

Perty old, early 80's?


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Phrases
Date: 5 Apr 2008 01:58:18
Message: <li8ev3he379afu3ujq179evsacfivh1ii7@4ax.com>
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:33:02 -0700, "Tim Attwood"
<tim### [at] comcastnet> wrote:

>> How old is that? I remember when it came out.
>
>Perty old, early 80's? 
>
It must be - toastrack :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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