"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message
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> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Graph_%28military_spenders%29.jpg

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>> VAT (14%)
> 
> VAT is 21% in Argentina. >_<

And it recently went up from 16% to 19% here in Germany.

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Gail Shaw <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote:
> p.s. I'm not in the USA.

  I apologize. I don't know why I got the impression that you were.

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scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> And it recently went up from 16% to 19% here in Germany.

  At least you pay only that VAT when you buy a car. Here in Finland you
pay something like 98% in taxes when you buy a car (which means you have
to pay almost double of the car's original price).

  (OTOH it's not as bad as in Denmark, where they have to pay something
like 210% in taxes when they buy a car.)

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                                                          - Warp

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>  At least you pay only that VAT when you buy a car. Here in Finland you
> pay something like 98% in taxes when you buy a car (which means you have
> to pay almost double of the car's original price).

Why doesn't everyone in Finland go to do another EU country to buy their car 
then?  Heck, lots of people in England do this even though the difference is 
at most just a couple of thousand pounds and you have all the hassle with 
buying a right hand drive car in a left hand drive country.

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On 4 Apr 2008 03:54:58 -0500, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:

>Gail Shaw <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote:
>> p.s. I'm not in the USA.
>
>  I apologize. I don't know why I got the impression that you were.

It's hard to tell colonials apart, sometimes. <g>
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Regards
     Stephen

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scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> >  At least you pay only that VAT when you buy a car. Here in Finland you
> > pay something like 98% in taxes when you buy a car (which means you have
> > to pay almost double of the car's original price).

> Why doesn't everyone in Finland go to do another EU country to buy their car 
> then?

  Because when you bring the car to Finland you have to pay the taxes
anyways.

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Warp wrote:
>   Because when you bring the car to Finland you have to pay the taxes
> anyways.

In the US they're clever. They don't call it "sales tax". They call it 
"use tax".  So you can't go to a state without sales tax, buy a car or 
boat or something, and avoid paying your home sales tax.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."

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Chambers wrote:
> ...I got in an argument with a fellow about fare collectors.  Anyway, 
> that's not the interesting part.
> 
> What really made me stop and think was when I realized that most 
> everyone agrees that things "should" be "fair", but disagree what "fair" 
> means.
> 
> To one camp, "fair" means that everyone pays the same price for the same 
> service.  Ie, a gallon of gas costs Donald Trump the same X dollars as 
> Joe Blow next door.  Since it's X for both guys, it's "fair".
> 
> To the other camp, "fair" means that everyone pays the same *percentage* 
> of their income for certain goods.  I pay X% of my income in taxes for 
> the benefit of good roads(1), and the Donald pays the same(2) X%.  Since 
> X is the same, it's "fair".

Donald Trump would *love* to pay the same percentage of his income in 
taxes as I do.  His proportion of taxes vs. income is much higher than mine.

Such proposals as your opponent advocates could only appeal to someone 
so lacking in self-confidence that the only joy they can hope for is the 
  neurotic joy of sticking it to people who are more fortunate.

"They're the party of the rich!"
"Then sign me up!  I'm tired of being poor!"

Regards,
John

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Darren New wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>>   Because when you bring the car to Finland you have to pay the taxes
>> anyways.
> 
> In the US they're clever. They don't call it "sales tax". They call it 
> "use tax".  So you can't go to a state without sales tax, buy a car or 
> boat or something, and avoid paying your home sales tax.
> 

Depends on the state, since individual states implement sales taxes. 
For instance, Washington State has a sales tax.  Oregon doesn't.  Lot's 
of Washintonians who live on the border do their shopping in Oregon as a 
result.

-- 
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com

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