Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

>> Is it possible to buy a laptop that has built-in speakers which aren't 
>> a joke?
> 
> Yes, a Mac.

Hell, for that price it should also make me a cup of tea when I wake up 
in the morning! :-S

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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:28:04 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> Gail Shaw wrote:
> 
>> Yup. My laptop has Harman/Karton speakers. I'm not much into the sound
>> industry, but I'm told those are high-qualtiy speakers. They certainly
>> sound good. In fact, they sound better than my old TV did.
>> 
>> Of course, I'm no sound expert....
> 
> My laptop has speakers that would compare poorly against almost any TV
> set imaginable. They're very quiet (you often can't hear them over the
> fan) and they rattle like hell at mid-range frequencies in a way that
> only the cheapest disposible radio sets can. So if your laptop sounds in
> any way comparable to a half-decent TV set, it's much better than what I
> have!

What type of laptop?  The Compaq Armada M700 that my wife uses sounds 
like you describe here....

Jim

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Mike the Elder wrote:

> I believe the general approach taken by laptop designers is that since laptops
> are nearly always single-user personal machines, HQ audio will come through HQ
> headphones.

Seems plausible.

I might have to investigate some moderately cheap let moderately good 
headphones. ;-)

[Certainly I'm not taking my expensive Sennheizer HD 570 phones anywhere 
except my bedroom...]

> Good luck on the quest. Please post any noteworthy discoveries.

Sure.

Actually, I just purchased a set of small external speakers which, 
despite their size, produce a reasonable amount of bass. (And more to 
the point, they're much louder and don't resonate annoyingly.) I'd tell 
you the model number if I knew it...

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>> My laptop has speakers that would compare poorly against almost any TV
>> set imaginable. They're very quiet (you often can't hear them over the
>> fan) and they rattle like hell at mid-range frequencies in a way that
>> only the cheapest disposible radio sets can. So if your laptop sounds in
>> any way comparable to a half-decent TV set, it's much better than what I
>> have!
> 
> What type of laptop?  The Compaq Armada M700 that my wife uses sounds 
> like you describe here....

Sharp GP1918 or something like that?

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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> Gail Shaw wrote:
>
> > Yup. My laptop has Harman/Karton speakers. I'm not much into the sound
> > industry, but I'm told those are high-qualtiy speakers.
> > They certainly sound good. In fact, they sound better than my old TV
did.
> >
> > Of course, I'm no sound expert....
>
> My laptop has speakers that would compare poorly against almost any TV
> set imaginable. They're very quiet (you often can't hear them over the
> fan) and they rattle like hell at mid-range frequencies in a way that
> only the cheapest disposible radio sets can. So if your laptop sounds in
> any way comparable to a half-decent TV set, it's much better than what I
> have!

Well I am talking about a fairly cheap TV and a very expensive laptop that
was designed as a media center, so that may even things.
I'm not sure about the low frequencies. It doesn't shake the floor like the
desktop's speaker system does

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Gail Shaw wrote:

> Well I am talking about a fairly cheap TV and a very expensive laptop that
> was designed as a media center, so that may even things.
> I'm not sure about the low frequencies. It doesn't shake the floor like the
> desktop's speaker system does

Acid test: Play, oh, *any* track that Enya has ever recorded [that 
features vocals], and tell me if it sounds like a women singing or like 
some sand rattling inside a coffee grinder. ;-)

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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> Gail Shaw wrote:
>
> > Well I am talking about a fairly cheap TV and a very expensive laptop
that
> > was designed as a media center, so that may even things.
> > I'm not sure about the low frequencies. It doesn't shake the floor like
the
> > desktop's speaker system does
>
> Acid test: Play, oh, *any* track that Enya has ever recorded [that
> features vocals], and tell me if it sounds like a women singing or like
> some sand rattling inside a coffee grinder. ;-)

Hehe. Will do. Tomorrow if I remember.

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Hell, for that price it should also make me a cup of tea when I wake up 
> in the morning! :-S

http://www.boingboing.net/2002/12/08/coffeemaking-pc-case.html

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> What physical basis there is for this hypothesis, I have no idea...

You can, of course, move speakers as slowly as you like. The problem is, 
the slower you move the speakers, the less energy in the resulting wave. 
So to get loud bass, you need speakers big enough to generate enough 
energy even when the speaker cone is moving slowly. Or you need to put 
the speakers very close to your ears.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."

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>> Hell, for that price it should also make me a cup of tea when I wake 
>> up in the morning! :-S
> 
> http://www.boingboing.net/2002/12/08/coffeemaking-pc-case.html

...just when you thought the Internet couldn't get any larger... you 
were wrong! o_O

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