>>> I can't see him
>> That's because I'm... ;-)
> 
> An Orchid?

Invisible. :-P

>> (I wasn't actually aware we had anybody near there. Indeed, I didn't 
>> think we had many people here in the UK at all...?)
> 
> Well there is a few of us Brits that post here and I think I've been snubbed so
> I'm sulking :(

o_O

> Seriously if you're up in town again we could go for a drink, that goes for
> anyone I'm not fussy as long as you're paying :). St plans to be here in the
> spring so if I'm not working away I know some cheep (and good) restaurants. 

Damn - now that's friendly... LOL!

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And lo on Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:49:43 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

> Phil Cook wrote:
>
>> AKA "Satan's layby" (Bill Bailey)
>>  Things people never say "I was driving down to London and thought  
>> 'I'll take this opportunity to stop off at Milton Keynes on the way'"
>
> Question: Why does everybody dislike MK so much? I think it's a really  
> great place to live...

Because it's new and because it's been designed, which makes it totally  
non-English :-P

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>> Question: Why does everybody dislike MK so much? I think it's a really 
>> great place to live...
> 
> Because it's new and because it's been designed, which makes it totally 
> non-English :-P

Riiiight... Well, I'd rather live in a place that had some *thought* put 
into it than some random thing that just *happened* by accident. :-P

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> Riiiight... Well, I'd rather live in a place that had some *thought* put 
> into it than some random thing that just *happened* by accident. :-P

So would I, but a lot of people find those places boring*.  Personally I 
would much prefer a system of roads named H1,H2,... and V1,V2,... plus the 
ability to drive through the town without getting stuck in a huge traffic 
jam. Have you ever tried to drive from one side of Reading to the other?

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:51:52 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>>>> I can't see him
>>> That's because I'm... ;-)
>> 
>> An Orchid?
>
>Invisible. :-P
>

I am a silly Billy :)

>>> (I wasn't actually aware we had anybody near there. Indeed, I didn't 
>>> think we had many people here in the UK at all...?)
>> 
>> Well there is a few of us Brits that post here and I think I've been snubbed so
>> I'm sulking :(
>
>o_O
>
>> Seriously if you're up in town again we could go for a drink, that goes for
>> anyone I'm not fussy as long as you're paying :). St plans to be here in the
>> spring so if I'm not working away I know some cheep (and good) restaurants. 
>
>Damn - now that's friendly... LOL!

Well it is hard to find people with similar interests in RL. I've only ever met
one Pover and spoken to one other who had heard of it. I also like showing off
my adopted hometown. So next time you come up to London drop me a mail. Again
that is an open invitation to all.

Regards
	Stephen

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scott wrote:
>> Riiiight... Well, I'd rather live in a place that had some *thought* 
>> put into it than some random thing that just *happened* by accident. :-P
> 
> So would I, but a lot of people find those places boring*.  Personally I 
> would much prefer a system of roads named H1,H2,... and V1,V2,... plus 
> the ability to drive through the town without getting stuck in a huge 
> traffic jam. Have you ever tried to drive from one side of Reading to 
> the other?

I tried to drive *into* Reading twice. And succeeded - eventually. But 
it wasn't fun. (I especially love the one-way system, and being told to 
"perform a U-turn" at a set of traffic lights on a 4-lane road in a 
residential area. That was great...)

Every year, Milton Keynes holds a demonstration of how efficient the 
road system is. We call it "The Milton Keynes Fireworks Display". 
Basically they detonate several hundred thousand pounds' worth of high 
explosives, and anybody who wants to can watch FOR FREE. They also have 
a very large funfair right next to it.

Probably something like 80% of MK turns up in their cars for this event. 
I wouldn't be surprised if a few peeps from Northampton or somewhere 
like that too. Slowly they all congregate in the central shopping center 
car park. But when the show finishes, THEY ALL TRY TO LEAVE AT ONCE!

So, 80% of the entire city's traffic, all concentrated at a single point 
in space, trying to leave. Simultaneously.

One could scarely imagine a worse scenario. The roads are (presumably) 
designed to handle the "typical" traffic volume plus a few percent of 
headroom. They're surely not designed at all to handle THE ENTIRE 
POPULUS trying to move through one grid at once.

Obviously, the actual car parks are stationary. But as soon as the 
traffic manages to get *out* of there, every 800 yards or so there are 
more and more turnings, the traffic volume drops off exponentially. 
Within about 20 minutes there is barely any evidence that anything 
unusual has happened. (!!)

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> I tried to drive *into* Reading twice. And succeeded - eventually. But it 
> wasn't fun. (I especially love the one-way system, and being told to 
> "perform a U-turn" at a set of traffic lights on a 4-lane road in a 
> residential area. That was great...)

Hehe yes, I used to live on one side of Reading and worked on the other ... 
not fun.  BTW I think Heathrow airport must receive the prize for worst 
traffic congestion, but then I suppose that's only because it's been allowed 
to grow to take 3x as many people as it was designed for without any changes 
to the road system.

> Probably something like 80% of MK turns up in their cars for this event. I 
> wouldn't be surprised if a few peeps from Northampton or somewhere like 
> that too. Slowly they all congregate in the central shopping center car 
> park. But when the show finishes, THEY ALL TRY TO LEAVE AT ONCE!

We have that situation here too, every week when one of our two football 
teams play at home.

> Obviously, the actual car parks are stationary. But as soon as the traffic 
> manages to get *out* of there, every 800 yards or so there are more and 
> more turnings, the traffic volume drops off exponentially. Within about 20 
> minutes there is barely any evidence that anything unusual has happened. 
> (!!)

Yeh ditto here, the football stadium is cleverly placed right next to where 
two autobahns cross, so immediately you have the choice of going 4 different 
directions each with 3 or 4 lanes, it helps a lot.  I still have memories of 
going to the British Formula 1 GP and it taking 3 or 4 hours just to get 10 
miles down the road...

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scott wrote:
> Yeh ditto here, the football stadium is cleverly placed right next to 
> where two autobahns cross, so immediately you have the choice of going 4 
> different directions each with 3 or 4 lanes, it helps a lot.  I still 
> have memories of going to the British Formula 1 GP and it taking 3 or 4 
> hours just to get 10 miles down the road...

Yep. We visited Silverstone one year. [It's only a little way down the 
road.] Took many hours to get in, and to get out again!

(Remind me: Where is "here"?)

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Stephen wrote:

> Well it is hard to find people with similar interests in RL. I've only ever met
> one Pover and spoken to one other who had heard of it.

Ain't that the truth!

> I also like showing off
> my adopted hometown. So next time you come up to London drop me a mail. Again
> that is an open invitation to all.

Wow. LOL! You're a braver man than I am - inviting a heap of random 
people to come meet up sometime. ;-) Still, very friendly offer...

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>> Yeh ditto here, the football stadium is cleverly placed right next to 
>> where two autobahns cross, so immediately you have the choice of going 4 
>> different directions each with 3 or 4 lanes, it helps a lot.  I still 
>> have memories of going to the British Formula 1 GP and it taking 3 or 4 
>> hours just to get 10 miles down the road...
>
> Yep. We visited Silverstone one year. [It's only a little way down the 
> road.] Took many hours to get in, and to get out again!

I have several memories of being in a queue to get in for an hour or two, 
and then a longer queue on the way out that never seemed to end.  I think 
it's mainly because Silverstone is in the middle of nowhere so *everyone* 
uses the same single-lane road for 20 miles or so until it gets to the 
motorway where some traffic goes different ways and starts to turn off.

Although recently it has improved, the FIA gave them some money to make a 
lot of the road dual-carriageway and basically threatened them to improve 
the access situation or they'd take away the race.

> (Remind me: Where is "here"?)

Munich, Germany.

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:49:19 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>
>Wow. LOL! You're a braver man than I am - inviting a heap of random 
>people to come meet up sometime. ;-) Still, very friendly offer...

I'm not inviting anyone to my home or even giving away my address. And as you
said London is a large place. Anyway you can get a good idea of what people are
like by reading their postings over a period of time. I would even have met BdeW
:)

Regards
	Stephen

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scott wrote:

> I think it's mainly because Silverstone is in the middle of nowhere so 
> *everyone* uses the same single-lane road for 20 miles or so until it 
> gets to the motorway where some traffic goes different ways and starts 
> to turn off.

Basically, uh, yeah. "Silverstone" is a tiny little village. (Apparently 
some of the locals complain about their whole village being basically 
shut down for a few days a year by the race!) The race track is in the 
middle of nowhere, and there's no remotely large roads anywhere damn 
near it. PERFECT for a large-scale international event. :-D

>> (Remind me: Where is "here"?)
> 
> Munich, Germany.

Ooo, I've heard of that...

Is it true that none of the roads in Germany have a speed limit? Or is 
that just an urban myth?

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Stephen wrote:

> I'm not inviting anyone to my home or even giving away my address. And as you
> said London is a large place. Anyway you can get a good idea of what people are
> like by reading their postings over a period of time.

Well, true.

I think if me and Warp ever met IRL, one of us might not survive. And I 
have a pretty good idea which one...

> I would even have met BdeW :)

OK, you just crossed the scary line... o_O

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> Basically, uh, yeah. "Silverstone" is a tiny little village. (Apparently 
> some of the locals complain about their whole village being basically shut 
> down for a few days a year by the race!) The race track is in the middle 
> of nowhere, and there's no remotely large roads anywhere damn near it. 
> PERFECT for a large-scale international event. :-D

Hehe, perfect to build a new motorway from it to an existing one then :-D

> Is it true that none of the roads in Germany have a speed limit? Or is 
> that just an urban myth?

I'd say that around here once you get away from the city and any big 
junctions, 75% of the *motorwarys* have no speed limits at all.  All other 
roads have limits the same as UK, ie about 60mph out of built up areas and 
30mph in towns and villages.

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scott wrote:

>> Is it true that none of the roads in Germany have a speed limit? Or is 
>> that just an urban myth?
> 
> I'd say that around here once you get away from the city and any big 
> junctions, 75% of the *motorwarys* have no speed limits at all.

Ah - so *that's* why German cars are always so fast. ;-)

> All 
> other roads have limits the same as UK, ie about 60mph out of built up 
> areas and 30mph in towns and villages.

Interesting. In Switzerland at least, the limits are all in km rather 
than miles...

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>>> Is it true that none of the roads in Germany have a speed limit? Or is 
>>> that just an urban myth?
>>
>> I'd say that around here once you get away from the city and any big 
>> junctions, 75% of the *motorwarys* have no speed limits at all.
>
> Ah - so *that's* why German cars are always so fast. ;-)

Actually all the major German manufacturers agreed voluntarily to limit 
their cars to 150mph.  Although you very rarely see anyone going that fast, 
around 100mph is pretty common, I guess 120 or 130 you see occasionally on a 
journey, but 150+ is not common at all.  I heard a story of someone *seeing* 
a Ferrari at "almost 200mph"...

The hardest part that I'm still not used to, is that when you see a police 
car, and you're doing 110mph, you don't have to slow down!  *That* takes a 
lot of getting used to.

>> All other roads have limits the same as UK, ie about 60mph out of built 
>> up areas and 30mph in towns and villages.
>
> Interesting. In Switzerland at least, the limits are all in km rather than 
> miles...

Well I converted them to mph for your benefit, they're actually 100 km/hr 
and 50 km/hr.  All countries around here use km, I've never seen miles used 
anywhere apart from UK and USA.  In fact my car doesn't even have mph on it, 
which makes it fun to drive in the UK ;-)

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:22:14 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>
>> I'm not inviting anyone to my home or even giving away my address. And as you
>> said London is a large place. Anyway you can get a good idea of what people are
>> like by reading their postings over a period of time.
>
>Well, true.
>
>I think if me and Warp ever met IRL, one of us might not survive. And I 
>have a pretty good idea which one...
>

I think that you do him an injustice :)

>> I would even have met BdeW :)
>
>OK, you just crossed the scary line... o_O

Do I look like your shadow? :-)


Regards
	Stephen

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Am Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:46:29 +0000 schrieb Invisible:

>> All
>> other roads have limits the same as UK, ie about 60mph out of built up
>> areas and 30mph in towns and villages.
> 
> Interesting. In Switzerland at least, the limits are all in km rather
> than miles...

Of course we use the metric system in Germany, so FWIW it's 50km/h inside 
towns, villages..., 100km/h outside towns except motorways, and 130km/h 
as a guidance on the motorways, unless stated otherwise. The latter 
means, if you go faster than 130km/h on the motorway (Should I say 
autobahn? Everybody understands :P) and you crash, you'll get full credit 
for the crash.
Where I live, the eastern part of Germany, the far greater part of AB's 
are limited to 130km/h. Except the big ones connecting East and Eest 
Europe (A2, A4).

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:01:29 +0100, "scott" <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:

>  I heard a story of someone *seeing* 
>a Ferrari at "almost 200mph"...

Red shifted?

Regards
	Stephen

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>> I think if me and Warp ever met IRL, one of us might not survive. And I 
>> have a pretty good idea which one...
> 
> I think that you do him an injustice :)

Have you *seen* the guy?? Half of his head is made of metal... ._.

>>> I would even have met BdeW :)
>> OK, you just crossed the scary line... o_O
> 
> Do I look like your shadow? :-)

[...]
It's not the fact that he's following you,
It's that he's not trying to hide it, that's what's bothering you... o_O

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scott wrote:
> Actually all the major German manufacturers agreed voluntarily to limit 
> their cars to 150mph.  Although you very rarely see anyone going that 
> fast, around 100mph is pretty common, I guess 120 or 130 you see 
> occasionally on a journey, but 150+ is not common at all.  I heard a 
> story of someone *seeing* a Ferrari at "almost 200mph"...

I was in Germany for a meeting 3 or 4 years ago, and one of the Germans 
(Dutch actually, but runs a lab in Germany) told us about a visitor he 
once had from the USA. Apparently the guy was planning on renting a car 
after his plane landed, but changed his mind when he noticed, during 
landing, that the cars on the motorway parallel to the runway were 
actually overtaking his plane...

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And lo on Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:31:30 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

>>> Question: Why does everybody dislike MK so much? I think it's a really  
>>> great place to live...
>>  Because it's new and because it's been designed, which makes it  
>> totally non-English :-P
>
> Riiiight... Well, I'd rather live in a place that had some *thought* put  
> into it than some random thing that just *happened* by accident. :-P

Well I wouldn't know anything about living in some randomly designed town.

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And lo on Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:41:53 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

> Every year, Milton Keynes holds a demonstration of how efficient the  
> road system is.

<snip>

> Slowly they all congregate in the central shopping center car park. But  
> when the show finishes, THEY ALL TRY TO LEAVE AT ONCE!

So as a celebration of the efficiency of the road system they demonstrate  
how to break it?

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"Nicolas Alvarez" <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote in message
news:47bb5113@news.povray.org...
> Jim Henderson escribió:
> > Try 5C (what it currently is here).  Actually, quite nice outside. :-)
> >
>
> 29C outside here. Fank thuck for air conditioners.

32-35C for the last week. And no wind.

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:23:34 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>>> I think if me and Warp ever met IRL, one of us might not survive. And I 
>>> have a pretty good idea which one...
>> 
>> I think that you do him an injustice :)
>
>Have you *seen* the guy?? Half of his head is made of metal... ._.
>

LOL
I wonder who remembers that :)

>>>> I would even have met BdeW :)
>>> OK, you just crossed the scary line... o_O
>> 
>> Do I look like your shadow? :-)
>
>[...]
>It's not the fact that he's following you,
>It's that he's not trying to hide it, that's what's bothering you... o_O

:)

Regards
	Stephen

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Stephen wrote:

>> [...]
>> It's not the fact that he's following you,
>> It's that he's not trying to hide it, that's what's bothering you... o_O
> 
> :)

It's a real song, BTW. (And a damn fine one...)

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:37:58 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:

> And lo on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:40:55 -0000, Jim Henderson
> <nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:
> 
>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:11:49 -0300, nemesis wrote:
>>
>>> Stephen wrote:
>>>> I can't see him
>>>> And I would have met him for a pint and a good meal if he had
>>>> mentioned.
>>>
>>> I thought he was from London.
>>
>> No, he's from Milton Keynes, IIRC.
> 
> AKA "Satan's layby" (Bill Bailey)

From QI or somewhere else?  (I seem to remember that being on QI)

> Things people never say "I was driving down to London and thought 'I'll
> take this opportunity to stop off at Milton Keynes on the way'"

LOL

Jim

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:49:43 +0000, Invisible wrote:

> Phil Cook wrote:
> 
>> AKA "Satan's layby" (Bill Bailey)
>> 
>> Things people never say "I was driving down to London and thought 'I'll
>> take this opportunity to stop off at Milton Keynes on the way'"
> 
> Question: Why does everybody dislike MK so much? I think it's a really
> great place to live...

Apart from the apparent lack of decent jobs and stores that you like to 
shop at, you mean?

Jim

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:50:40 +0000, Invisible wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Try 5C (what it currently is here).  Actually, quite nice outside. :-)
> 
> Oh, the temparature *outside* is 0°C. But I'm not going to get naked and
> try to sleep outside. :-P

That's probably a wise decision. :-)

Jim

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>> Question: Why does everybody dislike MK so much? I think it's a really
>> great place to live...
> 
> Apart from the apparent lack of decent jobs and stores that you like to 
> shop at, you mean?

Lack of jobs... well maybe.

Lack of good shops? WTF? I can't think of *any* shops I want that aren't 
here...

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:56:21 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

>>> Question: Why does everybody dislike MK so much? I think it's a really
>>> great place to live...
>> 
>> Apart from the apparent lack of decent jobs and stores that you like to
>> shop at, you mean?
> 
> Lack of jobs... well maybe.
> 
> Lack of good shops? WTF? I can't think of *any* shops I want that aren't
> here...

Music store?

Jim

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>> Lack of good shops? WTF? I can't think of *any* shops I want that aren't
>> here...
> 
> Music store?

We have a number of shops that sell musical instruments. We don't have a 
really good source for sheet music, I'll grant you that one.

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:14:10 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

>>> Lack of good shops? WTF? I can't think of *any* shops I want that
>>> aren't here...
>> 
>> Music store?
> 
> We have a number of shops that sell musical instruments. We don't have a
> really good source for sheet music, I'll grant you that one.

That's what I was thinking of - see, not only do people read your posts, 
some of us recall them as well. ;-)

Jim

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>>> Music store?
>> We have a number of shops that sell musical instruments. We don't have a
>> really good source for sheet music, I'll grant you that one.
> 
> That's what I was thinking of - see, not only do people read your posts, 
> some of us recall them as well. ;-)

We used to have Chappell of Bond Street - but for no defined reason, 
they shut down a couple of years back. (But they sent me a letter 
telling me I can still visit them at Bond Street. I'm like, WTF? Why 
would I drive to London to visit you? And how do you know where I live??)

Now we have a few shops that sell musical instruments, and most of them 
will sell you "Complete Guitar for Beginners" or "Flute, Grade 5". But 
if you wanted, say, Bach's Prelude #17 in D#... sorry.

PS. I have no idea what key the 17th prelude is *actually* in. I haven't 
memorised them all yet. Sorry.

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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> Stephen wrote:
>
>> Well it is hard to find people with similar interests in RL. I've only 
>> ever met
>> one Pover and spoken to one other who had heard of it.
>
> Ain't that the truth!
>
>> I also like showing off
>> my adopted hometown. So next time you come up to London drop me a mail. 
>> Again
>> that is an open invitation to all.
>
> Wow. LOL! You're a braver man than I am - inviting a heap of random people 
> to come meet up sometime. ;-) Still, very friendly offer...

     It is! And you should meet us there too. In London somewhere, (not sure 
when or where yet, but I'll be staying at my Sister's place in London, and 
then I'm gonna sneak out and meet Stephen for a few hours or four, or five, 
or...  ;)

    Ah, just come and meet us, we don't bite do we Stephen? ;)

     ~Steve~


>
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"Stephen" <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:49:19 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>
>>
>>Wow. LOL! You're a braver man than I am - inviting a heap of random
>>people to come meet up sometime. ;-) Still, very friendly offer...
>
> I'm not inviting anyone to my home or even giving away my address. And as 
> you
> said London is a large place. Anyway you can get a good idea of what 
> people are
> like by reading their postings over a period of time. I would even have 
> met BdeW
> :)

   So would I. That would have been very interesting. I kinda liked him for 
the person he was.


     ~Steve~



>
> Regards
> Stephen

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:20:54 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

>>>> Music store?
>>> We have a number of shops that sell musical instruments. We don't have
>>> a really good source for sheet music, I'll grant you that one.
>> 
>> That's what I was thinking of - see, not only do people read your
>> posts, some of us recall them as well. ;-)
> 
> We used to have Chappell of Bond Street - but for no defined reason,
> they shut down a couple of years back. (But they sent me a letter
> telling me I can still visit them at Bond Street. I'm like, WTF? Why
> would I drive to London to visit you? And how do you know where I
> live??)

You probably got signed up on a mailing list somewhere.  But they 
probably shut down because they couldn't sustain the business.

> Now we have a few shops that sell musical instruments, and most of them
> will sell you "Complete Guitar for Beginners" or "Flute, Grade 5". But
> if you wanted, say, Bach's Prelude #17 in D#... sorry.
> 
> PS. I have no idea what key the 17th prelude is *actually* in. I haven't
> memorised them all yet. Sorry.

A flat.  Sorry, I couldn't resist. ;-)

Jim

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:35:18 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>
>>> [...]
>>> It's not the fact that he's following you,
>>> It's that he's not trying to hide it, that's what's bothering you... o_O
>> 
>> :)
>
>It's a real song, BTW. (And a damn fine one...)

Oh! Lost on me, as is anything from the last 30 years :)

Regards
	Stephen

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And lo on Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:44:11 -0000, Jim Henderson  
<nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:

> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:37:58 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
>
>> And lo on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:40:55 -0000, Jim Henderson
>> <nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:
>>
>>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:11:49 -0300, nemesis wrote:
>>> No, he's from Milton Keynes, IIRC.
>>
>> AKA "Satan's layby" (Bill Bailey)
>
> From QI or somewhere else?  (I seem to remember that being on QI)

Might well have been, you know how I pick these things up.

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>> It's a real song, BTW. (And a damn fine one...)
> 
> Oh! Lost on me, as is anything from the last 30 years :)

Heh. It's only 10 years old.

Wait... OMG, I'M OLD! o_O

It seems like only yesterday this album was in the top 10... :-{

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:32:24 -0000, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:


>     It is! And you should meet us there too. In London somewhere, (not sure 
>when or where yet, but I'll be staying at my Sister's place in London, and 
>then I'm gonna sneak out and meet Stephen for a few hours or four, or five, 
>or...  ;)
>
>    Ah, just come and meet us, we don't bite do we Stephen? ;)
>
Not with my teeth, I can give a nasty suck though :)

Regards
	Stephen

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:59:19 -0000, "Phil Cook"
<phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>
>>> AKA "Satan's layby" (Bill Bailey)
>>
>> From QI or somewhere else?  (I seem to remember that being on QI)
>
>Might well have been, you know how I pick these things up.
>
That's what antibiotics are for :)

Regards
	Stephen

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>> Might well have been, you know how I pick these things up.
>>
> That's what antibiotics are for :)

*rimshot*

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Phil Cook wrote:
> And lo on Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:44:11 -0000, Jim Henderson 
> <nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:
> 
>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:37:58 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
>>
>>> And lo on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:40:55 -0000, Jim Henderson
>>> <nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:11:49 -0300, nemesis wrote:
>>>> No, he's from Milton Keynes, IIRC.
>>>
>>> AKA "Satan's layby" (Bill Bailey)
>>
>> From QI or somewhere else?  (I seem to remember that being on QI)
> 
> Might well have been, you know how I pick these things up.

I think he might have used that somewhere else too, but he does like to 
give his better short jokes good mileage!

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:47:14 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>>> It's a real song, BTW. (And a damn fine one...)
>> 
>> Oh! Lost on me, as is anything from the last 30 years :)
>
>Heh. It's only 10 years old.
>
>Wait... OMG, I'M OLD! o_O
>
>It seems like only yesterday this album was in the top 10... :-{

I do remember "Yesterday" 

Regards
	Stephen

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Stephen wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:47:14 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> 
>>>> It's a real song, BTW. (And a damn fine one...)
>>> Oh! Lost on me, as is anything from the last 30 years :)
>> Heh. It's only 10 years old.
>>
>> Wait... OMG, I'M OLD! o_O
>>
>> It seems like only yesterday this album was in the top 10... :-{
> 
> I do remember "Yesterday" 

oh please.  We're living in the Information Age where almost all human 
works in the last 4 millenia are in some form or another available in a 
few clicks to anyone with internet connection...

yesterday is from yesterday, comparatively...

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:15:48 -0300, nemesis <nam### [at] nospamgmailcom>
wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:47:14 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> It's a real song, BTW. (And a damn fine one...)
>>>> Oh! Lost on me, as is anything from the last 30 years :)
>>> Heh. It's only 10 years old.
>>>
>>> Wait... OMG, I'M OLD! o_O
>>>
>>> It seems like only yesterday this album was in the top 10... :-{
>> 
>> I do remember "Yesterday" 
>
>oh please.  We're living in the Information Age where almost all human 
>works in the last 4 millenia are in some form or another available in a 
>few clicks to anyone with internet connection...
>
>yesterday is from yesterday, comparatively...

Subtext nEMESIS, subtext. There is more than one story here. And yes some people
call it the Information Age but since the *.age changes ever time you look. Who
cares, What? What!

Regards
	Stephen

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And lo on Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:52:04 -0000, Stephen <mcavoysATaolDOTcom>  
did spake, saying:

> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:59:19 -0000, "Phil Cook"
> <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>>
>>>> AKA "Satan's layby" (Bill Bailey)
>>>
>>> From QI or somewhere else?  (I seem to remember that being on QI)
>>
>> Might well have been, you know how I pick these things up.
>>
> That's what antibiotics are for :)

Pah new fangling things; there's nowt that can't be fixed with a good dose  
of creosote. :-)

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Phil Cook

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:59:19 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:

>>> AKA "Satan's layby" (Bill Bailey)
>>
>> From QI or somewhere else?  (I seem to remember that being on QI)
> 
> Might well have been, you know how I pick these things up.

True....  It just sounds really familiar, and most of the Bill Bailey 
I've seen was his appearances on QI. :-)

Jim

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:03:15 -0000, "Phil Cook"
<phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:

>
>Pah new fangling things; there's nowt that can't be fixed with a good dose  
>of creosote. :-)

And an umbrella :)

Regards
	Stephen

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