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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 25 Sep 2007 16:39:38
Message: <46f9720a@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Well, I finally managed to get back in contact. My joy was short-lived 
> though. Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a 
> place many hours' drive from here.
> 
> I feel sick. Physically.
> 
> Life is just so violently unfair. The ONLY thing I want in this world is 
> to have a girlfriend. And no matter what I do, this goal remains 
> completely unattainable.
> 
> I feel so miserable right now...

For crying out loud, start a profile at www.okcupid.com and find someone 
else!

Regards,
John


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 25 Sep 2007 17:01:56
Message: <46f97744@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle wrote:

>> I feel so miserable right now...
> 
> For crying out loud, start a profile at www.okcupid.com and find someone 
> else!

Ah yes, join yet another dating website. I'm sure that'll solve 
everything...

-- 
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 25 Sep 2007 17:07:09
Message: <46f9787d$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:36:44 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

> I can't find anything remotely
> similar to what I'm looking for. So, basically, I'm completely stuck,
> and I don't know what to do next.

You've had advice to expand your search to include things that you know 
and are good at but don't value.  Start there.

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 25 Sep 2007 17:09:30
Message: <46f9790a$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:36:44 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> 
>> I can't find anything remotely
>> similar to what I'm looking for. So, basically, I'm completely stuck,
>> and I don't know what to do next.
> 
> You've had advice to expand your search to include things that you know 
> and are good at but don't value.  Start there.

I don't think you understand.

In all the looking I've done, I have yet to find a single job where I 
can even say "hey, I could probably do that job". Never mind one where 
I'd *want* to do that...

There's really no point applying for a job you know you can't do. 
(Unless you enjoy proving to yourself how much you fail...)

-- 
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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 25 Sep 2007 18:33:24
Message: <46F98DB4.9030802@hotmail.com>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:36:44 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>
>>> I can't find anything remotely
>>> similar to what I'm looking for. So, basically, I'm completely stuck,
>>> and I don't know what to do next.
>>
>> You've had advice to expand your search to include things that you 
>> know and are good at but don't value.  Start there.
> 
> I don't think you understand.
> 
> In all the looking I've done, I have yet to find a single job where I 
> can even say "hey, I could probably do that job". Never mind one where 
> I'd *want* to do that...
Do I need to remind you that you very much restricted yourself 
geographically?

> 
> There's really no point applying for a job you know you can't do. 
> (Unless you enjoy proving to yourself how much you fail...)
>


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 25 Sep 2007 18:49:54
Message: <46f99092$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:09:48 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:36:44 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>> 
>>> I can't find anything remotely
>>> similar to what I'm looking for. So, basically, I'm completely stuck,
>>> and I don't know what to do next.
>> 
>> You've had advice to expand your search to include things that you know
>> and are good at but don't value.  Start there.
> 
> I don't think you understand.
> 
> In all the looking I've done, I have yet to find a single job where I
> can even say "hey, I could probably do that job". Never mind one where
> I'd *want* to do that...

That's because you don't give yourself the credit for your skills that 
you deserve.  We've been down this discussion before...

> There's really no point applying for a job you know you can't do.
> (Unless you enjoy proving to yourself how much you fail...)

Um, the job I have now is a job I would've said I was absolutely *not* 
qualified to do - because it's essentially a people management position.  
(It's actually a programs management position, but there are over a 
thousand people in the programs).  I got it because I was being laid off 
due to cutbacks, and a VP provided me with a safety net because he had a 
need he thought I could fill.

I've been here two years, and so far, it's the best job I've ever had.  
Turns out I am qualified to do it, I just didn't think I was.

So, so much for *that* logic. ;-)

Jim


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 05:36:46
Message: <46fa282e$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Rune wrote:
> 
>>>> Grown up women in the UK generally don't mind that their potential
>>>> boyfriend live with his mother?
>>> Well, I'm 27, she's 25, not sure if that qualifies as "grown up".
>>
>> Let me put it another way. For women who have moved out from home 
>> themselves, do they generally don't mind that their potential 
>> boyfriend still live with his mother?
> 
> Well, none of the ones I've spoken to seemed to mind.
> 
>> Do the women you've been interested in live by their parents?
> 
> Let me count... 3 did, 3 didn't.
> 
>>> Housing prices in the UK are currently astronomical.
>>
>> What do other young people your age in the UK do?
> 
> You're asking *me*?

We rent. Buying often doesn't become an option without pooling 
resources, be that with parents, partner or friend. There's some pretty 
silly lending going on at the moment which makes buying easier but I'm 
personally steering clear at the moment (I have many friends and 
relatives earning no more than me who have dived into it with glee, 
however).

Renting need not be expensive, especially since you're well outside 
London and have no intention of going there, although to maximise your 
value-for-money you'd probably have to share a place.


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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 08:24:54
Message: <46fa4f96$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>>>     <sigh> Meet her before she goes...
>>> Yeah. Inbetween her having to finish her PhD in the next 17 days and 
>>> her employer who might be sending her to Japan on Thursday and she's 
>>> going on holiday to somewhere else in a few weeks' time and...
>>
>>       Well, maybe she isn't the one for you then, but there's plenty 
>> more out there...
> 
> *sigh* Yeah, it seems she isn't. And that makes me very sad indeed. I 
> was so hoping she would be... Now I've gone from "I might have a 
> girlfriend in a few weeks" back to plain "I am hopelessly single", with 
> no future in sight. Great.
> 
> There are plenty of *people* out there, some of whom are female, but it 
> seems there are very few indeed who are suitable for me. I don't doubt 
> they exist - just my ability to find them. :-(
> 

You ARE making progress....  not too long you never have had any 
prospects.  Now you actually asked QA girl and it seems like you've come 
close on this one.

I think that we speak for all of us here (dissenters can keep quiet) - 
we are PROUD of you for your efforts.





Tom


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From: Sherry Shaw
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 08:55:49
Message: <46fa56d5@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a 
> place many hours' drive from here.
> 

Y'know, the last time I looked, you lived on a modest-sized island off 
the coast of France.*  How far away can she be?

Seriously, unless you've been told in so many words to back off, drop 
dead, etc., you really ought to stay in touch with her.  Surely she's 
not moving someplace out of range of email, snail mail, phone...?

Best case scenario:  She finds that she misses you horribly and you end 
up living happily ever after.  Worst case scenario:  You gain (a) 
experience communicating with women and (b) a friend.**  It's a win/win 
situation.

--Sherry Shaw

* Obligatory Pratchett reference.

** Well, okay, the *real* worst case scenario is that she gets a court 
order or something, but I don't see you as *quite* that obsessive. ;)

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 10:10:38
Message: <46fa685e@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a 
> place many hours' drive from here.

  I have never understood why people are so obsessed with moving.
Sometimes it feels that not a month goes by without a friend or someone
I know moving. I know some people who have moved at least 4 times in
one single year!

  I have long ago stopped keeping track of where everyone I know lives
because it's just impossible. I would need a database.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 16:18:17
Message: <46fabe89$1@news.povray.org>
Tom Austin wrote:

> You ARE making progress....  not too long you never have had any 
> prospects.  Now you actually asked QA girl and it seems like you've come 
> close on this one.

Bah. 5 years ago I *kissed* a girl. I still haven't been able to repeat 
that feat...

> I think that we speak for all of us here (dissenters can keep quiet) - 
> we are PROUD of you for your efforts.

Really? I thought most of you regarded me as a compulsive whiner who 
never listens to any advice...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 16:27:12
Message: <46fac0a0$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:

>> In all the looking I've done, I have yet to find a single job where I 
>> can even say "hey, I could probably do that job". Never mind one where 
>> I'd *want* to do that...

> Do I need to remind you that you very much restricted yourself 
> geographically?

One of the reasons for getting a new job is so I can spend less time 
driving there and back. There's enough big companies in this city; 
surely one of them would like some programmers...?

-- 
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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 16:36:36
Message: <46fac2d4@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v3 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a 
>> place many hours' drive from here.
> 
>   I have never understood why people are so obsessed with moving.
> Sometimes it feels that not a month goes by without a friend or someone
> I know moving. I know some people who have moved at least 4 times in
> one single year!
> 
>   I have long ago stopped keeping track of where everyone I know lives
> because it's just impossible. I would need a database.

Apparently she moves house every 2 years. She moves into a place, 
renovates it, moves out and rents the old place out. She's hoping that 
by the time she's old she'll have a huge string of properties bringing 
in cash.

So not content with working for an F1 racing team and travelling all 
over the world at random moments and completing her PhD, she's also a 
property developer in her spare time. (Spare...time...?!)

Seriously doubting there's any *room* in this girls life for a 
relationship...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 16:38:54
Message: <46fac35e$1@news.povray.org>
Sherry Shaw wrote:
> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>> Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a place 
>> many hours' drive from here.
>>
> 
> Y'know, the last time I looked, you lived on a modest-sized island off 
> the coast of France.*  How far away can she be?

Far enough away that I can only go see her once or twice a month. :-(

> Seriously, unless you've been told in so many words to back off, drop 
> dead, etc., you really ought to stay in touch with her.

Well, I hope to stay in touch. But it seems highly doubtful that we will 
ever be anything more than friends - which makes me very sad.

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 16:39:36
Message: <46fac388$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:27:32 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

> One of the reasons for getting a new job is so I can spend less time
> driving there and back.

This is also a reason to find a job anywhere that pays you enough to 
afford a place to live.

But we've had this discussion....

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 16:40:13
Message: <46fac3ad@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:36:55 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

> Seriously doubting there's any *room* in this girls life for a
> relationship...

Let *her* decide that.....(Are you sensing a recurring theme here?)

Jim


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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 16:48:48
Message: <46fac5b0@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Tom Austin wrote:
> 
>> You ARE making progress....  not too long you never have had any 
>> prospects.  Now you actually asked QA girl and it seems like you've 
>> come close on this one.
> 
> Bah. 5 years ago I *kissed* a girl. I still haven't been able to repeat 
> that feat...
> 

So, you aren't a total looser...


>> I think that we speak for all of us here (dissenters can keep quiet) - 
>> we are PROUD of you for your efforts.
> 
> Really? I thought most of you regarded me as a compulsive whiner who 
> never listens to any advice...
> 


We have a lot of cheese to go around


Tom


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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 16:52:18
Message: <46fac682$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>> Orchid XP v3 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a place 
>>> many hours' drive from here.
>>
>>   I have never understood why people are so obsessed with moving.
>> Sometimes it feels that not a month goes by without a friend or someone
>> I know moving. I know some people who have moved at least 4 times in
>> one single year!
>>
>>   I have long ago stopped keeping track of where everyone I know lives
>> because it's just impossible. I would need a database.
> 
> Apparently she moves house every 2 years. She moves into a place, 
> renovates it, moves out and rents the old place out. She's hoping that 
> by the time she's old she'll have a huge string of properties bringing 
> in cash.
> 
> So not content with working for an F1 racing team and travelling all 
> over the world at random moments and completing her PhD, she's also a 
> property developer in her spare time. (Spare...time...?!)
> 

You do like F1 racing - right???

> Seriously doubting there's any *room* in this girls life for a 
> relationship...
> 

you would be surprised

Don't give up
But don't put all hope in it.

You can make great friends with someone who you see only a couple of 
times a month.  Friendships like that have a way of taking off sometimes.

It just might give you something to do on weekends ;-0




Tom


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 18:00:43
Message: <46FAD78A.5000803@hotmail.com>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Sherry Shaw wrote:
>> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> 
> Well, I hope to stay in touch. But it seems highly doubtful that we will 
> ever be anything more than friends - which makes me very sad.

Possibly one of your worst observations in the last weeks. And I was 
thinking that indeed you made some good progress. If I was a girl I 
would be highly offended by this.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 18:09:11
Message: <46fad887@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:52:18 -0400, Tom Austin wrote:

> You can make great friends with someone who you see only a couple of
> times a month.  Friendships like that have a way of taking off
> sometimes.

This is very true.  I'm a firm believer that if you don't start as 
friends, anything more is doomed...

Jim


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 26 Sep 2007 18:16:40
Message: <46fada48$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v3 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> 
>>Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a 
>>place many hours' drive from here.
> 
> 
>   I have never understood why people are so obsessed with moving.
> Sometimes it feels that not a month goes by without a friend or someone
> I know moving. I know some people who have moved at least 4 times in
> one single year!

Well, when the rent's due and you can't pay it...

Regards,
John


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 27 Sep 2007 04:02:19
Message: <46fb638b$1@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:46fac0a0$1@news.povray.org...
> andrel wrote:
>
>>> In all the looking I've done, I have yet to find a single job where I 
>>> can even say "hey, I could probably do that job". Never mind one where 
>>> I'd *want* to do that...
>
>> Do I need to remind you that you very much restricted yourself 
>> geographically?
>
> One of the reasons for getting a new job is so I can spend less time 
> driving there and back. There's enough big companies in this city; surely 
> one of them would like some programmers...?

    Ok, go and knock on *ALL* of their doors and ask to see the personnel 
manager's - if they can't see you, just ask the receptionist if there are 
any vacancies available. If there aren't, ask to be put on 'the list' and 
give them your details, or leave your resume with them.

    If you don't do that one simple thing, you will never know what's 
'actually' out there. You may be the answer to a problem that they never 
realised they had, or you may be the person that somehow would boost their 
sales (efficiency in the comp. dept. for example, speeding the whole process 
up > creating more sales). You just don't know until you tell them what you 
can do.

       Just do it, you've got nothing to lose and everything to gain. And, 
if you're fortunate enough that someone spots the potential in you and 
offers you a place, (it happens!) just go for it regardless of what 
wages/salary you may get. You'll save a stack on petrol anyway.

      You have ALSO got to think that you are probably 5 to 10 times 
*better* than some dude that's been crap in his/her position for a couple of 
years - it may be the case that he/she loses their job for you, but so what? 
It's a do-or-die world out there, go and do the 'killing'.   >:)

       ~Steve~


>
> -- 
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 27 Sep 2007 04:21:39
Message: <46fb6813$1@news.povray.org>
"andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:46F### [at] hotmailcom...
> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>> Sherry Shaw wrote:
>>> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>
>> Well, I hope to stay in touch. But it seems highly doubtful that we will 
>> ever be anything more than friends - which makes me very sad.
>
> Possibly one of your worst observations in the last weeks. And I was 
> thinking that indeed you made some good progress. If I was a girl I would 
> be highly offended by this.

    Totally agree with this. You get to know people by 'having' friends 
Andrew.

      ~Steve~


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 27 Sep 2007 04:28:50
Message: <46fb69c2@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> >   I have never understood why people are so obsessed with moving.
> > Sometimes it feels that not a month goes by without a friend or someone
> > I know moving. I know some people who have moved at least 4 times in
> > one single year!

> Well, when the rent's due and you can't pay it...

  The solution is to spend the rent money in moving your stuff to
another place?

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 27 Sep 2007 13:12:32
Message: <46fbe480$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:

>> Well, I hope to stay in touch. But it seems highly doubtful that we 
>> will ever be anything more than friends - which makes me very sad.
> 
> Possibly one of your worst observations in the last weeks. And I was 
> thinking that indeed you made some good progress. If I was a girl I 
> would be highly offended by this.

What - the fact that what might have been a beautiful relationship will 
now never be is "insulting"?

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Fredrik Eriksson
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 27 Sep 2007 13:19:24
Message: <op.tzbo2lfmcs6ysw@e6600>
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:12:54 +0200, Orchid XP v3 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> What - the fact that what might have been a beautiful relationship will  
> now never be is "insulting"?


What is insulting is that you seem to consider friendship with her to be a  
failure. How is friendship not "a beautiful relationship"?



-- 
FE


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 27 Sep 2007 13:30:33
Message: <46fbe8b9@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:46fbe480$1@news.povray.org...
> andrel wrote:
>
> >> Well, I hope to stay in touch. But it seems highly doubtful that we
> >> will ever be anything more than friends - which makes me very sad.
> >
> > Possibly one of your worst observations in the last weeks. And I was
> > thinking that indeed you made some good progress. If I was a girl I
> > would be highly offended by this.
>
> What - the fact that what might have been a beautiful relationship will
> now never be is "insulting"?

No, the fact that possibly making a new friend makes you very sad.

I dunno about you, but I don't have so many friends that pass up a
friendship that virtually dropped in my lap.

How often do you complain that you don't know anyone who like you. Now
you've got a good chance to change that and, it appears, you're not really
interested.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 27 Sep 2007 14:36:46
Message: <46fbf83e@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:46fbe480$1@news.povray.org...
> andrel wrote:
>
>>> Well, I hope to stay in touch. But it seems highly doubtful that we will 
>>> ever be anything more than friends - which makes me very sad.
>>
>> Possibly one of your worst observations in the last weeks. And I was 
>> thinking that indeed you made some good progress. If I was a girl I would 
>> be highly offended by this.
>
> What - the fact that what might have been a beautiful relationship will 
> now never be is "insulting"?


     What YOU want, and what THEY want, are two *totally* seperate things.

       ~Steve~



>
> -- 
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 27 Sep 2007 14:48:13
Message: <46FBFBED.1050506@hotmail.com>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> andrel wrote:
> 
>>> Well, I hope to stay in touch. But it seems highly doubtful that we 
>>> will ever be anything more than friends - which makes me very sad.
>>
>> Possibly one of your worst observations in the last weeks. And I was 
>> thinking that indeed you made some good progress. If I was a girl I 
>> would be highly offended by this.
> 
> What - the fact that what might have been a beautiful relationship will 
> now never be is "insulting"?
> 
What the others said, plus that essentially you imply that the only 
reason you are only interested in girls is when they want to go to bed 
with you. Any person, which includes women, which includes this girl,, 
is a human being.


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 27 Sep 2007 16:23:11
Message: <46fc112f$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:

>> What - the fact that what might have been a beautiful relationship 
>> will now never be is "insulting"?
>>
> What the others said, plus that essentially you imply that the only 
> reason you are only interested in girls is when they want to go to bed 
> with you. Any person, which includes women, which includes this girl,, 
> is a human being.

*sigh*

Even on povray.off-topic I am misunderstood...

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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 27 Sep 2007 16:25:16
Message: <46fc11ac$1@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw wrote:

>> What - the fact that what might have been a beautiful relationship will
>> now never be is "insulting"?
> 
> No, the fact that possibly making a new friend makes you very sad.

That's not what makes me sad. What makes me sad is that I am never going 
to SEE this person. I'll never even know what she looks like.

> How often do you complain that you don't know anyone who like you. Now
> you've got a good chance to change that and, it appears, you're not really
> interested.

There are lots of people I vaguely know over the Internet who I 
communicate with. What I'd really like is to have somebody I can 
physically BE with - lots of the time. This girl may or may not become 
my "friend", but I'm never going to be able to hang out with her. And I 
was so looking forward to it...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 27 Sep 2007 16:42:20
Message: <46fc15ac@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:46fc11ac$1@news.povray.org...

> That's not what makes me sad. What makes me sad is that I am never going
> to SEE this person. I'll never even know what she looks like.

Ask her to send you a photo

> There are lots of people I vaguely know over the Internet who I
> communicate with. What I'd really like is to have somebody I can
> physically BE with - lots of the time. This girl may or may not become
> my "friend", but I'm never going to be able to hang out with her. And I
> was so looking forward to it...

You have her phone number. That puts her well ahead of most of your internet
acquaintances. Maybe in a year or 2 she'll be back in your area, or maybe
she'll visit the area from time to time. If you let this slip away, you'll
never know.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 27 Sep 2007 17:10:37
Message: <46fc1c4d$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:25:38 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

> I am never going
> to SEE this person. I'll never even know what she looks like.

You don't know what the future holds, so don't count it out.

"Trying to predict the future is a mug's game. But increasingly it's a 
game we all have to play because the world is changing so fast and we 
need to have some sort of idea of what the future's actually going to be 
like because we are going to have to live there, probably next week."

 -- Douglas Adams

Jim


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 27 Sep 2007 18:32:49
Message: <46fc2f91@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> 
>>>  I have never understood why people are so obsessed with moving.
>>>Sometimes it feels that not a month goes by without a friend or someone
>>>I know moving. I know some people who have moved at least 4 times in
>>>one single year!
> 
> 
>>Well, when the rent's due and you can't pay it...
> 
> 
>   The solution is to spend the rent money in moving your stuff to
> another place?

For people not given to long-term thinking, that may seem like the 
better solution.  I didn't say it made sense...

Regards,
John


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 28 Sep 2007 04:33:21
Message: <46fcbc51$1@news.povray.org>
> Yeah. Inbetween her having to finish her PhD in the next 17 days and her 
> employer who might be sending her to Japan on Thursday and she's going on 
> holiday to somewhere else in a few weeks' time and...

Would you really want to be with a girl who was going off to some foreign 
country for 5 days every 2 weeks?  And then the rest of the time spending 
long hours at work?


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 28 Sep 2007 04:35:15
Message: <46fcbcc3$1@news.povray.org>
> I did actually go to the trouble of going to see a finance advisor to 
> see what the story really is. I was expecting him to say that something 
> could be done (after all, that way he gets to sell me a product). But 
> no. Apparently I simply don't earn enough money.

Haha you don't want a girlfriend then, they are quite expensive...


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 28 Sep 2007 04:51:51
Message: <46fcc0a7@news.povray.org>
>> Housing prices in the UK are currently astronomical.
>
> Renting an apartment is not an option then? What do other young people 
> your age in the UK do?

1) Rent

2) Lower your expectations of what you can afford to buy.  You haven't been 
working for 20 years like your parents have - you can't get a house like 
theirs.

3) Get a job in a cheaper area so you can get a bigger/nicer house.

Seriously - look at house prices in other parts of the country - you will be 
surprised.  For what I was paying to rent 1/3 of a house in Oxford, my 
sister was paying for a 3-bedroom house!


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 28 Sep 2007 06:47:34
Message: <46fcdbc6@news.povray.org>
>> What the others said, plus that essentially you imply that the only 
>> reason you are only interested in girls is when they want to go to bed 
>> with you. Any person, which includes women, which includes this girl,, is 
>> a human being.
>
> *sigh*
>
> Even on povray.off-topic I am misunderstood...

OK, well what you mean is "if you don't want to be my girlfriend then i 
don't want to be friends with you".  You're never going to find a girlfriend 
if you act like that.  Just make friends with her and get to know her.  You 
never know what will come of it.  Maybe after 6 months she will like you so 
much she'll want to move back to be near you.  Or you'll go to a party at 
one of her places and meet this great girl who is one of her best friends. 
Why waste all those opportunities simply because she won't be your 
girlfriend right now?


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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 28 Sep 2007 09:08:44
Message: <46fcfcdc$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>>> What the others said, plus that essentially you imply that the only 
>>> reason you are only interested in girls is when they want to go to 
>>> bed with you. Any person, which includes women, which includes this 
>>> girl,, is a human being.
>>
>> *sigh*
>>
>> Even on povray.off-topic I am misunderstood...
> 
> OK, well what you mean is "if you don't want to be my girlfriend then i 
> don't want to be friends with you".  You're never going to find a 
> girlfriend if you act like that.  Just make friends with her and get to 
> know her.  You never know what will come of it.  Maybe after 6 months 
> she will like you so much she'll want to move back to be near you.  Or 
> you'll go to a party at one of her places and meet this great girl who 
> is one of her best friends. Why waste all those opportunities simply 
> because she won't be your girlfriend right now?
> 
> 

Sound a lot like networking for a job ;-)

I've never looked at it as networking for a girl, but it makes sense.


Tom


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 28 Sep 2007 12:53:45
Message: <46fd3199@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

>> *sigh*
>>
>> Even on povray.off-topic I am misunderstood...
> 
> OK, well what you mean is "if you don't want to be my girlfriend then i 
> don't want to be friends with you".

No, that's not what I mean.

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 28 Sep 2007 12:59:02
Message: <46fd32d6$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> I did actually go to the trouble of going to see a finance advisor to 
>> see what the story really is. I was expecting him to say that 
>> something could be done (after all, that way he gets to sell me a 
>> product). But no. Apparently I simply don't earn enough money.
> 
> Haha you don't want a girlfriend then, they are quite expensive...

To quote that character I really hate, "do I look bothered?"

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 28 Sep 2007 13:00:04
Message: <46fd3314@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> Would you really want to be with a girl who was going off to some 
> foreign country for 5 days every 2 weeks?  And then the rest of the time 
> spending long hours at work?

This is also a very valid and rather worrying question...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Sherry Shaw
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 28 Sep 2007 15:31:13
Message: <46fd5681@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> I'm a firm believer that if you don't start as 
> friends, anything more is doomed...
> 

He's absolutely right, you know.  People sometimes don't realize that 
"not dying young" implies "getting old."  In any long-lasting 
relationship, the day will come when some parts are wrinkled and some 
parts sag and some parts just don't work anymore--but if that 
relationship is based on deep, secure friendship, those things don't matter.

--Sherry Shaw


-- 
#macro T(E,N)sphere{x,.4rotate z*E*60translate y*N pigment{wrinkles scale
.3}finish{ambient 1}}#end#local I=0;#while(I<5)T(I,1)T(1-I,-1)#local I=I+
1;#end camera{location-5*z}plane{z,37 pigment{granite color_map{[.7rgb 0]
[1rgb 1]}}finish{ambient 2}}//                                   TenMoons


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 28 Sep 2007 16:22:20
Message: <46FD637C.7050103@hotmail.com>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> scott wrote:
> 
>>> *sigh*
>>>
>>> Even on povray.off-topic I am misunderstood...
>>
>> OK, well what you mean is "if you don't want to be my girlfriend then 
>> i don't want to be friends with you".
> 
> No, that's not what I mean.
> 
Of course not, so don't say it.

And remember: here on p.o-t you can depend on it that there will always 
be one that will deliberately misunderstand you either for humorous 
effect or because they want to point out that you should be a bit more 
careful with what you say. Any could-be girlfriend might interpreted it 
the same way.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 28 Sep 2007 16:49:09
Message: <46fd68c5$1@news.povray.org>
"Sherry Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote in message 
news:46fd5681@news.povray.org...
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> I'm a firm believer that if you don't start as friends, anything more is 
>> doomed...
>>
>
> He's absolutely right, you know.  People sometimes don't realize that "not 
> dying young" implies "getting old."  In any long-lasting relationship, the 
> day will come when some parts are wrinkled and some parts sag and some 
> parts just don't work anymore--

     NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!   :(




       ~Steve~      ;)


>
> --Sherry Shaw
>
>
> -- 
> #macro T(E,N)sphere{x,.4rotate z*E*60translate y*N pigment{wrinkles scale
> .3}finish{ambient 1}}#end#local I=0;#while(I<5)T(I,1)T(1-I,-1)#local I=I+
> 1;#end camera{location-5*z}plane{z,37 pigment{granite color_map{[.7rgb 0]
> [1rgb 1]}}finish{ambient 2}}//                                   TenMoons


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From: Sherry Shaw
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 29 Sep 2007 11:56:31
Message: <46fe75af@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
> 
>      NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!   :(
> 

[Puts arm around Steve] There, there, it's all right.....Someday you'll 
look back on this and, erm, not remember it at all.....

;)

--Sherry Shaw


-- 
#macro T(E,N)sphere{x,.4rotate z*E*60translate y*N pigment{wrinkles scale
.3}finish{ambient 1}}#end#local I=0;#while(I<5)T(I,1)T(1-I,-1)#local I=I+
1;#end camera{location-5*z}plane{z,37 pigment{granite color_map{[.7rgb 0]
[1rgb 1]}}finish{ambient 2}}//                                   TenMoons


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 29 Sep 2007 12:58:13
Message: <46fe8425$1@news.povray.org>
Sherry Shaw wrote:
> St. wrote:
> 
>>
>>      NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!   :(
>>
> 
> [Puts arm around Steve] There, there, it's all right.....Someday you'll 
> look back on this and, erm, not remember it at all.....
> 
> ;)
> 
> --Sherry Shaw
> 
> 
You can put your arm around me too.


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 30 Sep 2007 06:59:10
Message: <46ff817e$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Well, I finally managed to get back in contact. My joy was short-lived 
> though. Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a 
> place many hours' drive from here.

OK, so I just sent her a rather confrontational email telling her how I 
feel about the whole thing. We'll see what that does.

(I truly *wanted* to do this thing by phone. It sounds so stroppy and 
aggressive in text. But since she *will not* answer my calls or call me 
back or text me or...)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Sherry Shaw
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 30 Sep 2007 10:14:47
Message: <46ffaf57@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter wrote:
> Sherry Shaw wrote:
>> St. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>      NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!   :(
>>>
>>
>> [Puts arm around Steve] There, there, it's all right.....Someday 
>> you'll look back on this and, erm, not remember it at all.....
>>
>> ;)
>>
>> --Sherry Shaw
>>
>>
> You can put your arm around me too.

[Puts arm around Jim]  There, there....Someday we'll all be in the Old 
POVers home together playing Slow-Mo Wheelchair Bumper Cars and drooling 
on our bibs....

;)

--Sherry Shaw

-- 
#macro T(E,N)sphere{x,.4rotate z*E*60translate y*N pigment{wrinkles scale
.3}finish{ambient 1}}#end#local I=0;#while(I<5)T(I,1)T(1-I,-1)#local I=I+
1;#end camera{location-5*z}plane{z,37 pigment{granite color_map{[.7rgb 0]
[1rgb 1]}}finish{ambient 2}}//                                   TenMoons


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Game over
Date: 1 Oct 2007 05:41:31
Message: <4700c0cb@news.povray.org>
Sherry Shaw wrote:
> Jim Charter wrote:
>> Sherry Shaw wrote:
>>> St. wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>      NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!   :(
>>>>
>>>
>>> [Puts arm around Steve] There, there, it's all right.....Someday 
>>> you'll look back on this and, erm, not remember it at all.....
>>>
>>> ;)
>>>
>>> --Sherry Shaw
>>>
>>>
>> You can put your arm around me too.
> 
> [Puts arm around Jim]  There, there....Someday we'll all be in the Old 
> POVers home together playing Slow-Mo Wheelchair Bumper Cars and drooling 
> on our bibs....

I don't know if this will ring any bells, but I'm put in mind of the 
over-80s wheelchair five-a-side soccer game featured in an episode of 
Father Ted...

"...he's sent the keeper the wrong way...!"


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