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I just spoke to a girl. About Graham's Law of Gas Diffusion. And there
were differential equations. But she got her indecies mixed up. But we
managed to sort it out in the end. And afterwards she gave me her phone
number.
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*runs round like an escaped mental patient*
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
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> I just spoke to a girl. About Graham's Law of Gas Diffusion. And there
> were differential equations. But she got her indecies mixed up. But we
> managed to sort it out in the end. And afterwards she gave me her phone
> number.
>
> WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So, when are you going to call her?
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:36:01 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> I just spoke to a girl. About Graham's Law of Gas Diffusion. And there
> were differential equations. But she got her indecies mixed up. But we
> managed to sort it out in the end. And afterwards she gave me her phone
> number.
>
> WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> *runs round like an escaped mental patient*
Score one for Invisible. Good going!
Jim
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"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message
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>
> "Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
> news:46e6dfb8$1@news.povray.org...
> > I just spoke to a girl. About Graham's Law of Gas Diffusion. And there
> > were differential equations. But she got her indecies mixed up. But we
> > managed to sort it out in the end. And afterwards she gave me her phone
> > number.
> >
> > WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> So, when are you going to call her?
>
>
Obligatory "Swingers" scene:
Mike: So how long do I wait to call?
Trent: A day.
Mike: Tomorrow.
Sue: Tomorrow, then a day.
Trent: Yeah.
Mike: So two days?
Trent: Yeah, I guess you could call it that, two days.
Sue: Definitely, two days is like industry standard.
Trent: You know I used to wait two days to call anybody, but now it's like
everyone in town waits two days. So I think three days is kind of money.
What do you think?
Sue: Yeah, but two's enough not to look anxious.
Trent: But I think three days is kind of money. You know because you...
Mike: Yeah, but you know what, mabey I'll wait 3 weeks. How's that? And tell
her I was cleaning out my wallet and I just happened to run into her number.
Charles: Then ask her where you met her.
Mike: Yeah, I'll ask her where I met her. I don't remember. What does she
look like? And then I'll asked if we f***ed. Is that... would that be... T,
would that be the money?
Trent: You know what. Ha ha ha Mike, laugh all you want but if you call too
soon you might scare off a nice baby who's ready to party.
Mike: Well how long are you guys gonna wait to call your babies?
Trent, Sue: Six days.
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> I just spoke to a girl. About Graham's Law of Gas Diffusion. And there
> were differential equations. But she got her indecies mixed up. But we
> managed to sort it out in the end. And afterwards she gave me her
> phone number.
Where did you speak to her?
Was it on the net, as the title implies?
Rune
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Ross wrote:
> "Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message
> news:46e6e26d@news.povray.org...
>
>>"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
>>news:46e6dfb8$1@news.povray.org...
>>
>>>I just spoke to a girl. About Graham's Law of Gas Diffusion. And there
>>>were differential equations. But she got her indecies mixed up. But we
>>>managed to sort it out in the end. And afterwards she gave me her phone
>>>number.
>>>
>>>WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>
>>So, when are you going to call her?
>>
>>
>
>
> Obligatory "Swingers" scene:
>
> Mike: So how long do I wait to call?
> Trent: A day.
> Mike: Tomorrow.
> Sue: Tomorrow, then a day.
> Trent: Yeah.
> Mike: So two days?
> Trent: Yeah, I guess you could call it that, two days.
> Sue: Definitely, two days is like industry standard.
> Trent: You know I used to wait two days to call anybody, but now it's like
> everyone in town waits two days. So I think three days is kind of money.
> What do you think?
> Sue: Yeah, but two's enough not to look anxious.
> Trent: But I think three days is kind of money. You know because you...
> Mike: Yeah, but you know what, mabey I'll wait 3 weeks. How's that? And tell
> her I was cleaning out my wallet and I just happened to run into her number.
> Charles: Then ask her where you met her.
> Mike: Yeah, I'll ask her where I met her. I don't remember. What does she
> look like? And then I'll asked if we f***ed. Is that... would that be... T,
> would that be the money?
> Trent: You know what. Ha ha ha Mike, laugh all you want but if you call too
> soon you might scare off a nice baby who's ready to party.
> Mike: Well how long are you guys gonna wait to call your babies?
> Trent, Sue: Six days.
>
>
Wow, that is exactly the conversation goes on in the back of my cab
night after night, perfectly documented. Impressive.
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:57:26 -0400, Jim Charter wrote:
> Wow, that is exactly the conversation goes on in the back of my cab
> night after night, perfectly documented.
Hey, that reminds me - how long you been teaching the class you teach?
We've taken to watching "Cash Cab" on Discovery and have often wondered
if Ben (the host of the show) is actually a licensed cab driver. His bio
says he used to be a limo driver (in NYC, IIRC), but we don't know if
that would be relevant experience.
The show credits the NYC Taxi Commission (they do use the correct name,
of course - I just can't remember it).
Just a random tangential thought/question...
Jim
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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>I just spoke to a girl. About Graham's Law of Gas Diffusion. And there were
>differential equations. But she got her indecies mixed up. But we managed
>to sort it out in the end. And afterwards she gave me her phone number.
>
> WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> *runs round like an escaped mental patient*
Well done! Heh, is she nice? How old(ish)?
~Steve~
>
> --
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>
>
> Well done! Heh, is she nice? How old(ish)?
Hmm.
- Hello, this is Andrew, is, er, Brenda here, she gave me this number...
- Hello, this is Wifebeaters Anonymous, can I help you? This conversation is
recorded. Have you heard of the 12 steps?
G.
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"Gilles Tran" <gil### [at] agroparistechfr> wrote in message
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 46e7da87@news.povray.org...
>>
>>
>> Well done! Heh, is she nice? How old(ish)?
>
> Hmm.
>
> - Hello, this is Andrew, is, er, Brenda here, she gave me this number...
> - Hello, this is Wifebeaters Anonymous, can I help you? This conversation
> is recorded. Have you heard of the 12 steps?
LOL! :) Ok, I see it... :)
~Steve~
>
> G.
>
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"Gilles Tran" <gil### [at] agroparistechfr> wrote in message
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 46e7da87@news.povray.org...
>>
>>
>> Well done! Heh, is she nice? How old(ish)?
>
> Hmm.
>
> - Hello, this is Andrew, is, er, Brenda here, she gave me this number...
> - Hello, this is Wifebeaters Anonymous, can I help you? This conversation
> is recorded. Have you heard of the 12 steps?
Thinking about it, in a slightly different way, this reminds me of when
I went ice skating with our youth club when I was about 12-13. It was the
first time I'd been skating, and actually, I got used to it fairly quickly.
So, a few falls later, and trying to master the corners, all of a sudden
this girl (that I didn't know) came up to me and grabbed my hand, leading me
around the rink. I was thinking, "This can't be real, I'm dreaming this". My
young heart was pounding. She was nice! But, after 3 or 4 circuits, she
suddenly speeded up and then as we were heading for the next corner, she
suddenly let go. I was powerless to do anything about it, and landed in a
heap against the barrier. That 'crushed' me for a while concerning girls.
;)
~Steve~
>
> G.
>
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St. wrote:
> Thinking about it, in a slightly different way, this reminds me
> of when I went ice skating with our youth club when I was about
> 12-13. It was the first time I'd been skating, and actually, I got
> used to it fairly quickly. So, a few falls later, and trying to
> master the corners, all of a sudden this girl (that I didn't know)
> came up to me and grabbed my hand, leading me around the rink. I was
> thinking, "This can't be real, I'm dreaming this". My young heart was
> pounding. She was nice! But, after 3 or 4 circuits, she suddenly
> speeded up and then as we were heading for the next corner, she
> suddenly let go. I was powerless to do anything about it, and landed
> in a heap against the barrier. That 'crushed' me for a while
> concerning girls. ;)
Aw... I can't decide if this is cruel or sweet. I mean, did she just want to
tease you, maybe encourage playfulness, or did she genuinely try to be mean
to you...?
Rune
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"Rune" <new### [at] runevisioncom> wrote in message
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> Aw... I can't decide if this is cruel or sweet. I mean, did she just want
> to tease you, maybe encourage playfulness, or did she genuinely try to be
> mean to you...?
Genuinely mean. :o) She was a local girl, (the rink was in Bristol),
and we found out later that night that several of them (girls and boys) were
doing it to the 'non-locals'. I think it was their idea of fun. Still, I
didn't mind, it was nice just to hold her warm hand. ;)
~Steve~
>
> Rune
> --
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Rune wrote:
> Where did you speak to her?
>
> Was it on the net, as the title implies?
Yes.
She also gave me some pictures of herself. One is an ugly fat girl, and
the other is a tall beautiful women. I'm confused...
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> Rune wrote:
>
> > Where did you speak to her?
> >
> > Was it on the net, as the title implies?
>
> Yes.
>
> She also gave me some pictures of herself. One is an ugly fat girl, and
> the other is a tall beautiful women. I'm confused...
LOL. it's probably neither. Probably some scarey old man.
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Ross wrote:
> LOL. it's probably neither. Probably some scarey old man.
Oh hey, you got my emails? Great!
XD
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Jim Henderson wrote:
>
> Hey, that reminds me - how long you been teaching the class you teach?
A little over a year ago I began teaching at the Taxi Institute. I
began teaching a defensive driving course there. Really the standard
thing but it is an ongoing requirement for cab drivers to take it in
order to keep their hack license current, so most of the attendees are
in fact cab drivers. I also began teaching a referesher course that
drivers are required to take on the first year anniversary of their
license. In May of this year I began teaching the Initial Training for
the hack license. I wasn't qualified to teach that one until I had
sufficient time in driving. And that is the course that I was writing
about.
> We've taken to watching "Cash Cab" on Discovery and have often wondered
> if Ben (the host of the show) is actually a licensed cab driver.
Pretty safe assumption.
His bio
> says he used to be a limo driver (in NYC, IIRC), but we don't know if
> that would be relevant experience.
A hack license allows you to drive limo, technically FHV (for hire
vehicle) but a FHV license is not enough to drive 'yellows'
>
> The show credits the NYC Taxi Commission (they do use the correct name,
> of course - I just can't remember it).
>
http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/html/home/home.shtml
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:58:22 -0400, Jim Charter wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> Hey, that reminds me - how long you been teaching the class you teach?
>
> A little over a year ago I began teaching at the Taxi Institute. I
> began teaching a defensive driving course there. Really the standard
> thing but it is an ongoing requirement for cab drivers to take it in
> order to keep their hack license current, so most of the attendees are
> in fact cab drivers. I also began teaching a referesher course that
> drivers are required to take on the first year anniversary of their
> license. In May of this year I began teaching the Initial Training for
> the hack license. I wasn't qualified to teach that one until I had
> sufficient time in driving. And that is the course that I was writing
> about.
Cool, it's amazing the skills and things people who I meet online have or
do. :-) What sort of defensive driving techniques are employed by hacks
in NYC? I've always found that sort of thing interesting (my dad taught
me to drive in MN, and he was always teaching me defensive techniques).
I understand there's a fairly common courtesy amongst cabbies in NYC
(well, everywhere, really, but NYC cabbies are IMHO the best around; the
ones in San Francisco that I've had didn't even know how to get to where
they were driving me; the one I had in Atlanta took advantage of my rush
to the airport and gave himself a 100% tip for the ride - I hated having
to pay with a credit card).
In fact, the only other place I've ridden in a cab that I would compare
to NYC is in the UK (down near Hastings - haven't done a London cab ride
yet), and I know the cabs there have a steering system that turns both
the front and the back wheels (I forget what it's called now - my wife
says it's called a "independent double wishbone suspension", capable of
doing a U-turn in 25 feet, mandated by the public carriage office) so the
cabs are REALLY maneuverable. Anything like that employed on the cabs
there? (I've not noticed it, but it's kinda hard while in the cab to see
what the wheels are doing, obviously)
>> We've taken to watching "Cash Cab" on Discovery and have often wondered
>> if Ben (the host of the show) is actually a licensed cab driver.
>
> Pretty safe assumption.
I thought that was probably the case; they show what looks like his
license at the beginning of the show, but I keep forgetting to pause and
have a closer look to see how real it looks. Usually there are things
that make it clear it's not real, since he's actually driving around
Broadway. The cab itself is indistinguishable to my eye from any of the
other yellow minivan cabs there.
> His bio
>> says he used to be a limo driver (in NYC, IIRC), but we don't know if
>> that would be relevant experience.
>
> A hack license allows you to drive limo, technically FHV (for hire
> vehicle) but a FHV license is not enough to drive 'yellows'
Interesting, didn't know that. I have seen FHVs at JFK, drivers asking
people waiting for the yellows charging a flat rate to get into town
(seems to me it was usually about $60-$75 the most recent time I was
there). I always wondered if those were legal or if there was some way
to tell whether they were or not. They seemed to take people out of the
cab load/unload area there at the airport up into a nearby parking lot.
I did that once, then instead would arrange a ride at the FHV counter
inside the terminal.
>> The show credits the NYC Taxi Commission (they do use the correct name,
>> of course - I just can't remember it).
>>
>>
> http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/html/home/home.shtml
That'd be the one, of course. :-) Thanks for the info - always enjoyed
reading your stories about some of the fares you've had.
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
>
> Cool, it's amazing the skills and things people who I meet online have or
> do. :-) What sort of defensive driving techniques are employed by hacks
> in NYC?
Again, I teach here:
http://www.lagcc.cuny.edu/taxi/
Andrew Vollo is my 'boss'
We teach the Defensive Driving, techically PIRP (Point and Insurance
Reduction Program) under the sponsorship of:
http://www.ntsi.com/
It is the same course that anyone might take to reduce points on their
license. It is just that it is a TLC requirement that drivers (meaning
taxi drivers) take this or similar course every three years as a
compliance requirement for their hack license. (hack licenses are
renewed eery two years) In addition the course is prerequisite to
applying for a hack license in the first place. So my students tend to
be people fulfilling TLC requirements.
I've always found that sort of thing interesting (my dad taught
> me to drive in MN, and he was always teaching me defensive techniques).
The course focuses primarily on mental attitude and less on hard
techniques. I give a lot of emphasis to road rage and less emphasis on
alcohol. Many of the drivers are muslim.
> I understand there's a fairly common courtesy amongst cabbies in NYC
Not sure what you mean here but the usual take is that NY cabs have a
fairly bad reputation. This is not entirely deserved. Drivers will
show each other small courtesies on occasion. For instance a car
running 'heavy' meaning he has a fare, might block traffic to help an
empty car get across to a hail. But two cars competing for a fare can
get ugly.
> (well, everywhere, really, but NYC cabbies are IMHO the best around; the
> ones in San Francisco that I've had didn't even know how to get to where
> they were driving me;
I needed to hear that, we really do take a lot of abuse.
the one I had in Atlanta took advantage of my rush
> to the airport and gave himself a 100% tip for the ride - I hated having
> to pay with a credit card).
>
> In fact, the only other place I've ridden in a cab that I would compare
> to NYC is in the UK (down near Hastings - haven't done a London cab ride
> yet),
London and Tokyo cabs are the ones that people cite as superior
and I know the cabs there have a steering system that turns both
> the front and the back wheels (I forget what it's called now - my wife
> says it's called a "independent double wishbone suspension", capable of
> doing a U-turn in 25 feet, mandated by the public carriage office) so the
> cabs are REALLY maneuverable. Anything like that employed on the cabs
> there? (I've not noticed it, but it's kinda hard while in the cab to see
> what the wheels are doing, obviously)
Nope. Innovations here are in the direction of hybrid 'green' models
and wheelchair access.
.
>
>
> I thought that was probably the case; they show what looks like his
> license at the beginning of the show, but I keep forgetting to pause and
> have a closer look to see how real it looks. Usually there are things
> that make it clear it's not real, since he's actually driving around
> Broadway. The cab itself is indistinguishable to my eye from any of the
> other yellow minivan cabs there.
It looks pretty straight up to me. People seem genuinely surprised. I
guess the camera work must be craftily hidden. The routes are all the
sort of thing I do routinely 'night in and night out' The shots of the
passing stuff is exactly what I am immersed in all night.
>
>
> Interesting, didn't know that. I have seen FHVs at JFK, drivers asking
> people waiting for the yellows charging a flat rate to get into town
> (seems to me it was usually about $60-$75 the most recent time I was
> there). I always wondered if those were legal or if there was some way
> to tell whether they were or not.
They are NOT legal, they may only pickup prearranged fares, never
solicite fares or pick up street hails. NOw it is common for FHV's and
gypsies to pick up street hails in the outer boroughs where yellows
don'w want to go anyway. But not at the airports. In fact it is also
against regs for yellows to pick up hails at the airports. It must be
the taxi line or nothing.
They seemed to take people out of the
> cab load/unload area there at the airport up into a nearby parking lot.
Absolutely illegal
http://newyorkhack.blogspot.com/2007/07/perfectly-legal.html
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:58:53 -0400, Jim Charter wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>
>> Cool, it's amazing the skills and things people who I meet online have
>> or do. :-) What sort of defensive driving techniques are employed by
>> hacks in NYC?
>
> Again, I teach here:
> http://www.lagcc.cuny.edu/taxi/
> Andrew Vollo is my 'boss'
>
> We teach the Defensive Driving, techically PIRP (Point and Insurance
> Reduction Program) under the sponsorship of: http://www.ntsi.com/
>
> It is the same course that anyone might take to reduce points on their
> license. It is just that it is a TLC requirement that drivers (meaning
> taxi drivers) take this or similar course every three years as a
> compliance requirement for their hack license. (hack licenses are
> renewed eery two years) In addition the course is prerequisite to
> applying for a hack license in the first place. So my students tend to
> be people fulfilling TLC requirements.
Makes sense. I'll have a look over these sites later (got a meeting to
run to in 10 minutes).
> I've always found that sort of thing interesting (my dad taught
>> me to drive in MN, and he was always teaching me defensive techniques).
>
> The course focuses primarily on mental attitude and less on hard
> techniques. I give a lot of emphasis to road rage and less emphasis on
> alcohol. Many of the drivers are muslim.
That adaptation makes a lot of sense; I had wondered, because the
portrayal of cab drivers on shows like Law and Order seems to tend
heavily towards Middle-Eastern descent. Not always, of course, but my
wife and I watch several programs and note the diversity (or lack
thereof) based on where the program is *supposed* to be based. Not
really a conscious thing for either of us, but her friends have commented
on it in the past and raised her awareness as a result.
>> I understand there's a fairly common courtesy amongst cabbies in NYC
>
> Not sure what you mean here but the usual take is that NY cabs have a
> fairly bad reputation. This is not entirely deserved. Drivers will
> show each other small courtesies on occasion. For instance a car
> running 'heavy' meaning he has a fare, might block traffic to help an
> empty car get across to a hail. But two cars competing for a fare can
> get ugly.
I could see competition getting ugly - and I *think* I might've seen that
once, in fact; but what I was thinking of was the heavy car helping one
get a fare or stuff like that - making way for another driver who's
stuck, creating openings in the traffic, that sort of thing.
>> (well, everywhere, really, but NYC cabbies are IMHO the best around;
>> the ones in San Francisco that I've had didn't even know how to get to
>> where they were driving me;
>
> I needed to hear that, we really do take a lot of abuse.
Lots of stressed-out people in NYC, I've observed. But I've always
appreciated the cabs I've ridden in there. It's easy to walk a few
blocks, but there just are times (obviously) where walking isn't
practical. And it's not like finding a cab downtown is difficult, either
- there are an awful lot of them. :-)
> the one I had in Atlanta took advantage of my rush
>> to the airport and gave himself a 100% tip for the ride - I hated
>> having to pay with a credit card).
>>
>> In fact, the only other place I've ridden in a cab that I would compare
>> to NYC is in the UK (down near Hastings - haven't done a London cab
>> ride yet),
>
> London and Tokyo cabs are the ones that people cite as superior
The interesting thing is that some London cab drivers underwent some sort
of intelligence testing, and it was discovered that the requirements
there to actually *know* how to get places (the test there includes a
mapping test - shortest route between points A and B - without a map IIRC
- that sort of thing) really help with other mental capabilities. I
don't know if NYC has anything like that on their exam, but I know San
Francisco doesn't (as per my example of the driver asking *me* how to get
to my hotel - "which turn do I take again?")
> and I know the cabs there have a steering system that turns both
>> the front and the back wheels (I forget what it's called now - my wife
>> says it's called a "independent double wishbone suspension", capable of
>> doing a U-turn in 25 feet, mandated by the public carriage office) so
>> the cabs are REALLY maneuverable. Anything like that employed on the
>> cabs there? (I've not noticed it, but it's kinda hard while in the cab
>> to see what the wheels are doing, obviously)
>
> Nope. Innovations here are in the direction of hybrid 'green' models
> and wheelchair access.
That's cool, I thought I'd heard something about hybrid technology being
introduced in the yellows there. I guess U-turns aren't particularly
important in NYC since most of the streets (at least near Times Square,
where our office is there) are one way, at least for part of the day
(which makes sense to me but seems like it could be very confusing as
well)
>> I thought that was probably the case; they show what looks like his
>> license at the beginning of the show, but I keep forgetting to pause
>> and have a closer look to see how real it looks. Usually there are
>> things that make it clear it's not real, since he's actually driving
>> around Broadway. The cab itself is indistinguishable to my eye from
>> any of the other yellow minivan cabs there.
>
> It looks pretty straight up to me. People seem genuinely surprised. I
> guess the camera work must be craftily hidden. The routes are all the
> sort of thing I do routinely 'night in and night out' The shots of the
> passing stuff is exactly what I am immersed in all night.
I've noticed that the few times he's been caught out, it's because either
they noticed the number on the outside (1G12, IIRC) or it was someone
getting into the back seat who spotted the camera in the back.
Apparently the luggage space is full of recording equipment and one
camera sticks up over the back of the seat. They seem to have done a
good job of hiding the cameras overall, not to mention the extra
cameramen who shoot from the street (which I still haven't figured out
where they ride or how they follow)
>> Interesting, didn't know that. I have seen FHVs at JFK, drivers asking
>> people waiting for the yellows charging a flat rate to get into town
>> (seems to me it was usually about $60-$75 the most recent time I was
>> there). I always wondered if those were legal or if there was some way
>> to tell whether they were or not.
>
> They are NOT legal, they may only pickup prearranged fares, never
> solicite fares or pick up street hails. NOw it is common for FHV's and
> gypsies to pick up street hails in the outer boroughs where yellows
> don'w want to go anyway. But not at the airports. In fact it is also
> against regs for yellows to pick up hails at the airports. It must be
> the taxi line or nothing.
Good to know, definitely will keep that in mind next time I'm there.
> They seemed to take people out of the
>> cab load/unload area there at the airport up into a nearby parking lot.
>
> Absolutely illegal
>
> http://newyorkhack.blogspot.com/2007/07/perfectly-legal.html
Thanks again,
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> The interesting thing is that some London cab drivers underwent some sort
> of intelligence testing, and it was discovered that the requirements
> there to actually *know* how to get places (the test there includes a
> mapping test - shortest route between points A and B - without a map IIRC
> - that sort of thing) really help with other mental capabilities. I
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Knowledge#The_Knowledge
And, probably not a conclusive piece of trivia given the diversity of
contestants, but nevertheless relevant:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Housego
:)
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Ross wrote:
>> She also gave me some pictures of herself. One is an ugly fat girl, and
>> the other is a tall beautiful women. I'm confused...
>
> LOL. it's probably neither. Probably some scarey old man.
Yeah, that thought had criss-crossed my mind... :-S
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> Ross wrote:
>
>>> She also gave me some pictures of herself. One is an ugly fat girl, and
>>> the other is a tall beautiful women. I'm confused...
>>
>> LOL. it's probably neither. Probably some scarey old man.
>
> Yeah, that thought had criss-crossed my mind... :-S
Well, that's a shame, I really thought you'd cracked it this time.
~Steve~
>
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> She also gave me some pictures of herself. One is an ugly fat girl, and
> the other is a tall beautiful women. I'm confused...
Muhuhuhuhu! I'll check the EXIF data on the files! >:-D
Oh. Wait. There isn't any...
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>
>> She also gave me some pictures of herself. One is an ugly fat girl,
>> and the other is a tall beautiful women. I'm confused...
>
> Muhuhuhuhu! I'll check the EXIF data on the files! >:-D
>
> Oh. Wait. There isn't any...
Have you considered simply asking her about the images? If she's honest, she
can probably come with a better explanation than what you can induce
yourself. If she can't or won't explain, you might consider not wasting any
more time thinking about her.
(BTW, don't refer to any of the depicted women as "ugly fat girl". Simply
state your confusing over the fact that the images don't seem to depict the
same person.)
Rune
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:29:24 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> The interesting thing is that some London cab drivers underwent some
>> sort of intelligence testing, and it was discovered that the
>> requirements there to actually *know* how to get places (the test there
>> includes a mapping test - shortest route between points A and B -
>> without a map IIRC - that sort of thing) really help with other mental
>> capabilities. I
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Knowledge#The_Knowledge
>
> And, probably not a conclusive piece of trivia given the diversity of
> contestants, but nevertheless relevant:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Housego
>
> :)
Cool stuff there - yeah, that's the test I was thinking of; average of 12
attempts per candidate? That's just insane, but also interesting. Might
come in handy to know that later. :-)
Jim
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St. wrote:
> Well done! Heh, is she nice? How old(ish)?
She's lovely. She makes me smile. She's 25. I'd love to know what her
voice sounds like...
I'm begining increasingly worried though that she doesn't really have
*time* to have a social life, much less a boyfriend. I mean, she works
for a racing constructor. She travels round the country to various race
tracks. She works round the clock to keep everything going with that -
which she apparently loves to bits. She's also about to finish her PhD,
which if it's anything like my degree, means she's really busy with that
too...
I'm just wondering if she's ever going to have any time for me.
*sigh*
And yes, tonight I'm in one of *those* moods...
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> St. wrote:
>
>> Well done! Heh, is she nice? How old(ish)?
>
> She's lovely. She makes me smile. She's 25. I'd love to know what her
> voice sounds like...
You've got that 'phone number, right?
>
> I'm begining increasingly worried though that she doesn't really have
> *time* to have a social life, much less a boyfriend. I mean, she works for
> a racing constructor.
F1? :o) If so, I know one of the body designers in Grove,Wantage.
She travels round the country to various race
> tracks. She works round the clock to keep everything going with that -
> which she apparently loves to bits. She's also about to finish her PhD,
> which if it's anything like my degree, means she's really busy with that
> too...
Sounds great for you. Damn, that would be great for me too!! ;)
>
> I'm just wondering if she's ever going to have any time for me.
If it's F1, then they more or less finish up for the season in
September. Plenty of time after that. :)
>
> *sigh*
>
> And yes, tonight I'm in one of *those* moods...
Chin up kiddo, it's sounding good so far. ;)
~Steve~
>
> --
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>>> Well done! Heh, is she nice? How old(ish)?
>> She's lovely. She makes me smile. She's 25. I'd love to know what her
>> voice sounds like...
>
> You've got that 'phone number, right?
Yeah, but I don't really want to phone her while she's at work. (Which
is basically all of the time, except when she's sleeping.)
>> I'm begining increasingly worried though that she doesn't really have
>> *time* to have a social life, much less a boyfriend. I mean, she works for
>> a racing constructor.
>
> F1? :o) If so, I know one of the body designers in Grove,Wantage.
...just the irony of a word like "wantage" turning up in this
conversation. heh!
>> She travels round the country to various race
>> tracks. She works round the clock to keep everything going with that -
>> which she apparently loves to bits. She's also about to finish her PhD,
>> which if it's anything like my degree, means she's really busy with that
>> too...
>
> Sounds great for you. Damn, that would be great for me too!! ;)
Sounds like she's all work and no time for play. :-(
>> I'm just wondering if she's ever going to have any time for me.
>
> If it's F1, then they more or less finish up for the season in
> September. Plenty of time after that. :)
You've got to be kidding... There's still a whole heap of testing to get
ready for *next* season! (She works in R&D after all...)
>> *sigh*
>>
>> And yes, tonight I'm in one of *those* moods...
>
> Chin up kiddo, it's sounding good so far. ;)
*sigh* Yeah...
Lovely girl, I just hope I actually get to meet her some day.
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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>>>> Well done! Heh, is she nice? How old(ish)?
>>> She's lovely. She makes me smile. She's 25. I'd love to know what her
>>> voice sounds like...
>>
>> You've got that 'phone number, right?
>
> Yeah, but I don't really want to phone her while she's at work. (Which is
> basically all of the time, except when she's sleeping.)
Why not? You could safely assume that she takes a dinner break like
everyone else, ring her then. Or, how about on a Sunday?
>
>>> I'm begining increasingly worried though that she doesn't really have
>>> *time* to have a social life, much less a boyfriend. I mean, she works
>>> for a racing constructor.
>>
>> F1? :o) If so, I know one of the body designers in Grove,Wantage.
>
> ...just the irony of a word like "wantage" turning up in this
> conversation. heh!
Heh, I know the place well, I use to go to school there.
>
>>> She travels round the country to various race
>>> tracks. She works round the clock to keep everything going with that -
>>> which she apparently loves to bits. She's also about to finish her PhD,
>>> which if it's anything like my degree, means she's really busy with that
>>> too...
>>
>> Sounds great for you. Damn, that would be great for me too!! ;)
>
> Sounds like she's all work and no time for play. :-(
>
>>> I'm just wondering if she's ever going to have any time for me.
>>
>> If it's F1, then they more or less finish up for the season in
>> September. Plenty of time after that. :)
>
> You've got to be kidding... There's still a whole heap of testing to get
> ready for *next* season! (She works in R&D after all...)
Well, if she does work where I'm thinking, they have open days to
visit the 'factory' in September only, you get a guided tour of the place,
(except where all the designing goes on of course - have you got £50,000,000
Andrew?) ;) I know all workers there get free tickets for their immediate
families, but apparently, the officials don't question too much about it, if
you see what I mean. Drop a few hints... ;)
>
>>> *sigh*
>>>
>>> And yes, tonight I'm in one of *those* moods...
>>
>> Chin up kiddo, it's sounding good so far. ;)
>
> *sigh* Yeah...
>
> Lovely girl, I just hope I actually get to meet her some day.
Make it so, Grasshopper... :)
~Steve~
>
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>>> Well done! Heh, is she nice? How old(ish)?
>>> She's lovely. She makes me smile. She's 25. I'd love to know what
>>> her voice sounds like...
>>
>> You've got that 'phone number, right?
>
> Yeah, but I don't really want to phone her while she's at work. (Which
> is basically all of the time, except when she's sleeping.)
Look, do you think she gave you the number so that you would *not* call?
If you gave your number to someone and they never called, wouldn't you be
somewhat disappointed?
Quit making up all these excuses! If you call her and it turns out she's at
work and doesn't have time, just ask her what time will fit her better.
Rune
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> So, when are you going to call her?
Tomorrow evening. Unless she responds to me first...
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Rune wrote:
> Look, do you think she gave you the number so that you would *not* call?
Stranger things have happened...
> If you gave your number to someone and they never called, wouldn't you be
> somewhat disappointed?
Yeah. But I'm not normal.
(Besides, it's not like she *offered* me her number. I asked for it, and
after some prodding she eventually handed it over.)
> Quit making up all these excuses! If you call her and it turns out she's at
> work and doesn't have time, just ask her what time will fit her better.
Well, since I haven't heard from her for several days now, I'm going to
have to do that...
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>> So, when are you going to call her?
>
> Tomorrow evening. Unless she responds to me first...
...or not. Apparently she's in "jerez" at the moment. :-(
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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>>> So, when are you going to call her?
>>
>> Tomorrow evening. Unless she responds to me first...
>
> ...or not. Apparently she's in "jerez" at the moment. :-(
Ok, text her that she's got a BIG surprise from you when she gets back.
;)
~Steve~
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St. wrote:
>> ...or not. Apparently she's in "jerez" at the moment. :-(
>
> Ok, text her that she's got a BIG surprise from you when she gets back.
> ;)
...?
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> St. wrote:
>
>>> ...or not. Apparently she's in "jerez" at the moment. :-(
>>
>> Ok, text her that she's got a BIG surprise from you when she gets
>> back. ;)
>
> ...?
Text her, and when she gets back, present her with a big bunch of
flowers. That's all.
Do the text thing, and she'll be intrigued. Do the flowers thing when
you meet her, and she'll melt, knees first.
~Steve~ ;)
>
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>>>> ...or not. Apparently she's in "jerez" at the moment. :-(
>>> Ok, text her that she's got a BIG surprise from you when she gets
>>> back. ;)
>> ...?
>
> Text her, and when she gets back, present her with a big bunch of
> flowers. That's all.
>
> Do the text thing, and she'll be intrigued. Do the flowers thing when
> you meet her, and she'll melt, knees first.
...yeah. OK. Um. I am still trying to convince this girl to meet me. :-P
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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>>>>> ...or not. Apparently she's in "jerez" at the moment. :-(
>>>> Ok, text her that she's got a BIG surprise from you when she gets
>>>> back. ;)
>>> ...?
>>
>> Text her, and when she gets back, present her with a big bunch of
>> flowers. That's all.
>>
>> Do the text thing, and she'll be intrigued. Do the flowers thing when
>> you meet her, and she'll melt, knees first.
>
> ...yeah. OK. Um. I am still trying to convince this girl to meet me. :-P
So you've asked her for a date. What did she actually say to you?
~Steve~
>
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>> Tomorrow evening. Unless she responds to me first...
>
> ...or not. Apparently she's in "jerez" at the moment. :-(
The F1 track at Jerez is used a lot by the teams for testing... Make sure
you know how to pronounce it correctly when you speak to her :-)
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scott wrote:
>> ...or not. Apparently she's in "jerez" at the moment. :-(
>
> The F1 track at Jerez is used a lot by the teams for testing... Make
> sure you know how to pronounce it correctly when you speak to her :-)
My dad said the same thing. (He follows F1. I used to too - before they
started changing the rules once per season...)
Apparently it isn't proncounced "jerez"...
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St. wrote:
>> ...yeah. OK. Um. I am still trying to convince this girl to meet me. :-P
>
> So you've asked her for a date. What did she actually say to you?
No, I haven't yet. I'm just trying to find out when she isn't busy. (But
it's now been almost a week since I last communicated with her...)
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> My dad said the same thing. (He follows F1. I used to too - before they
> started changing the rules once per season...)
As far back as I can remember they have always changed part of the rules
every season.
From around 1980 onwards F1 suddenly became very popular, the teams had huge
amounts of cash and so started developing all these weird and wonderful ways
to go faster. The new rules were basically to keep all the whacky ideas at
bay (eg no 6-wheeled cars, no fans to suck the car onto the tarmac, no
rocket fuel, no 3 foot wide tyres). Before this time teams didn't have the
money to invest in this stuff, so the rules weren't needed.
After 1994 suddenly the emphasis changed to safety after the deaths of Senna
and Ratzenburger. Each year stricter and stricter rules were introduced to
make the sport safer. More severe crash tests, wheels that are tethered to
the chassis, that neck support system. Now in F1 hardly anyone gets
seriously injured, even if they hit a wall or roll over at 150mph.
In the last few years the gap between the top and bottom teams has been
widening because of the amount of cash the teams have. The top teams would
be bringing 10 or so engines to each race, with engines specifically for
3-lap qualifiying that would be useless afterwards. The bottom teams could
not afford to do this. So since then the rules have been changed to reduce
the performance gap between the teams, like only allowing one engine every
two races, no engine re-design during the season, only 4 sets of tyres per
event, etc.
Who knows what will happen next, but for sure the rules won't ever remain
the same.
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scott wrote:
> As far back as I can remember they have always changed part of the rules
> every season.
Yeah, but, they used to change the rules in such tiny ways that nobody
outside the teams would ever notice.
I'm talking about when they decided "hey, what the heck? Let's just
randomly have *two* qualifying sessions instead of one!"
> From around 1980 onwards F1 suddenly became very popular, the teams had
> huge amounts of cash and so started developing all these weird and
> wonderful ways to go faster. The new rules were basically to keep all
> the whacky ideas at bay (eg no 6-wheeled cars, no fans to suck the car
> onto the tarmac, no rocket fuel, no 3 foot wide tyres). Before this
> time teams didn't have the money to invest in this stuff, so the rules
> weren't needed.
It just amuses me. Everybody tells you that F1 is the apex of
technology. But it isn't really. Every time they invent some technology,
it instantly gets banned. So it's not really the apex at all...
I wonder - how fast would the cars be able to go without all the
restrictions?
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Yeh some stuff gets banned, usually because it already breaks an existing
rule, or it would mean the cars would go too fast. The FIA routinely bring
in new rules to stop the cars going too fast - it's just dangerous. There's
plenty of invention that doesn't get banned though, it just doesn't make the
papers because it's not very exciting.
> I wonder - how fast would the cars be able to go without all the
> restrictions?
Well I would imagine they could easily make a car so that no human driver
could survive the G force for two hours...
F1 cars already brake and corner at up to 4G, it would be pretty easy to up
that to 7 or 8G and similar for acceleration if there were no rules.
Things which would make the biggest difference to speed:
- Larger engine capacity
- Turbo chargers (with no limit on pressure)
- No regulation on fuel type
- No minimum weight
- Moveable aero devices (ie like a plane wing that changes shape depending
on whether it wants maximum lift or minimum drag)
- Wider tyres
- Stickier tyres
- Not as many safety features
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Apparently it isn't proncounced "jerez"...
Yes it is of course, but in the Spanish way ;-)
Marc
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"M_a_r_c" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote in message
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>
> "Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 46f2abef$1@news.povray.org...
>> Apparently it isn't proncounced "jerez"...
>
> Yes it is of course, but in the Spanish way ;-)
"Yereth"?...
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"Brian Elliott" <NotForSpam@AskIfUWant> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> "M_a_r_c" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote in message
> news:46f3d38f$1@news.povray.org...
>>
>> "Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> 46f2abef$1@news.povray.org...
>>> Apparently it isn't proncounced "jerez"...
>>
>> Yes it is of course, but in the Spanish way ;-)
>
> "Yereth"?...
The "j" (jota) is pronounced almost as the "ch" in the German "ach" with
the back part of the tongue against the back of the palate . I think there
is no equivalent in English but in Gaelic and Welsh there is a softer
version.
The "r" is rolled with the tip of the tongue against the joint between
teeth and palate
The English hard "th" is a good approximation of the Spanish "z".
The chaining of "j" and "r" is a little tricky at 1st try but not more than
chaining "th" and "s" for non native
English speakers :-)
I found a very well explained site but it is in spanish of course
http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/spanish/frameset.html
Marc
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"M_a_r_c" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote in message
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> "Brian Elliott" <NotForSpam@AskIfUWant> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>> "M_a_r_c" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote in message
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>>> "Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>>>> Apparently it isn't proncounced "jerez"...
>>>
>>> Yes it is of course, but in the Spanish way ;-)
>>
>> "Yereth"?...
>
> The "j" (jota) is pronounced almost as the "ch" in the German "ach" with
> the back part of the tongue against the back of the palate . I think there
> is no equivalent in English but in Gaelic and Welsh there is a softer
> version.
> The "r" is rolled with the tip of the tongue against the joint between
> teeth and palate
> The English hard "th" is a good approximation of the Spanish "z".
> The chaining of "j" and "r" is a little tricky at 1st try but not more
> than chaining "th" and "s" for non native
> English speakers :-)
> I found a very well explained site but it is in spanish of course
> http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/spanish/frameset.html
Marc, thanks!
I had forgotten those '-ch" as in "Bach" sounds are in Spanish, let alone
attached to "j". Portuguese has a similar sound, at least in the Brazilian
form, but I think it is in the European. "R" at the beginning of a word, or
a doubled "rr" in a word also have the tongue against the back of the palate
in that fricative, unclosed "kh" sound. Eg. "Rio de Janeiro" and "arroz"
(rice). Single "r" not beginning a word sounds as expected, and often has a
single-tap roll of the tongue, eg. "Garota de Ipanema" (Girl from Ipanema).
Yes, the 'j' does make it harder to hit the roll on the "r". Been
practicing, and it's a challenge.
--
Cheers,
Brian
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"Brian Elliott" <NotForSpam@AskIfUWant> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Yes, the 'j' does make it harder to hit the roll on the "r". Been
> practicing, and it's a challenge.
> --
> Cheers,
> Brian
My Spanish teacher at shool gave us a training phrase "El general
Zumalacarregui es verdaderamente un grande general"
the "g" is pronounced same as jota before a "e" or "i" and the "v" as a "b"
(v de vaca , b de buey to spell the difference)
Marc
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