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"M_a_r_c" <jac### [at] wanadoo fr> wrote in message
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> "Brian Elliott" <NotForSpam@AskIfUWant> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 46f512e9@news.povray.org...
>> Yes, the 'j' does make it harder to hit the roll on the "r". Been
>> practicing, and it's a challenge.
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Brian
>
>
> My Spanish teacher at shool gave us a training phrase "El general
> Zumalacarregui es verdaderamente un grande general"
> the "g" is pronounced same as jota before a "e" or "i" and the "v" as a
> "b" (v de vaca , b de buey to spell the difference)
>
> Marc
Sounds like this?
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?ggjere01.wav=Jerez
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"Tim Attwood" <tim### [at] comcastnet> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> "M_a_r_c" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote in message
> news:46f53ca9@news.povray.org...
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>> "Brian Elliott" <NotForSpam@AskIfUWant> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> 46f512e9@news.povray.org...
>>> Yes, the 'j' does make it harder to hit the roll on the "r". Been
>>> practicing, and it's a challenge.
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Brian
>>
>>
>> My Spanish teacher at shool gave us a training phrase "El general
>> Zumalacarregui es verdaderamente un grande general"
>> the "g" is pronounced same as jota before a "e" or "i" and the "v" as a
>> "b" (v de vaca , b de buey to spell the difference)
>>
>> Marc
> Sounds like this? > http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?ggjere01.wav=Jerez
Eerrr it looks like pronounced with a strong american accent :-)
The "j" is too soft, the "r" is not rolled , the second "e" is pronounced as
a diphtong but should have only one short sound (monophtong) as in "pet" and
the "z" should sound as English "th" as in "truth", not as "s"
This one is closer (yet the jota is not hard enough)
http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/pron/J0031700.wav
It's easy to understand why English had dropped "Jerez" for "Sherry" :-)
Marc
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>> Sounds like this? >
>> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?ggjere01.wav=Jerez
> Eerrr it looks like pronounced with a strong american accent :-)
> The "j" is too soft, the "r" is not rolled , the second "e" is pronounced
> as a diphtong but should have only one short sound (monophtong) as in
> "pet" and the "z" should sound as English "th" as in "truth", not as "s"
> This one is closer (yet the jota is not hard enough)
> http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/pron/J0031700.wav
> It's easy to understand why English had dropped "Jerez" for "Sherry" :-)
The (English) guys on TV seem to pronounce it "hereth"... don't know how
close that is to what it should be (no sound on this PC).
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It is 1 week today since I last heard from her. I sent her an email on
saturday, but she hasn't answered.
Oh well, I guess that's the end of that then... :'{
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:52:24 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> It is 1 week today since I last heard from her. I sent her an email on
> saturday, but she hasn't answered.
>
> Oh well, I guess that's the end of that then... :'{
It's very possible she's got other things going on in her life - don't
give up yet....
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:52:24 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>
>> It is 1 week today since I last heard from her. I sent her an email on
>> saturday, but she hasn't answered.
>>
>> Oh well, I guess that's the end of that then... :'{
>
> It's very possible she's got other things going on in her life - don't
> give up yet....
That she has other things going on in her life is completely beyond
question. (She just spent a week in some random country on a few hours'
notice from her employer for example.)
That *I* am an extremely low priority amoung those things seems somewhat
irrefutable also, sadly...
--
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:38:13 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> That she has other things going on in her life is completely beyond
> question. (She just spent a week in some random country on a few hours'
> notice from her employer for example.)
>
> That *I* am an extremely low priority amoung those things seems somewhat
> irrefutable also, sadly...
Well, a lower priority, perhaps, than making a living. These things
happen, don't let them discourage you.
Remember: DON'T ASSUME.
Jim
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Orchid XP v3 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Oh well, I guess that's the end of that then... :'{
That may be one big problem of yours: You give up too easily.
You have been depressed by too many failures and you have a pessimistic
attitude towards such things and thus you immediately assume the worse.
I know. I have been there. Heck, I *am* there.
--
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Warp wrote:
>> Oh well, I guess that's the end of that then... :'{
>
> That may be one big problem of yours: You give up too easily.
Perhaps.
These things all come down to a reasonable sense of balance.
On the one hand, if you give up too easily you never get anywhere. On
the other hand, you don't want to let somebody string you along forever.
Need to draw the line somewhere.
I haven't completely given up on this one yet, but it's not looking good...
--
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Well, I finally managed to get back in contact. My joy was short-lived
though. Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a
place many hours' drive from here.
I feel sick. Physically.
Life is just so violently unfair. The ONLY thing I want in this world is
to have a girlfriend. And no matter what I do, this goal remains
completely unattainable.
I feel so miserable right now...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:46f9013e$1@news.povray.org...
> Well, I finally managed to get back in contact. My joy was short-lived
> though. Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a place
> many hours' drive from here.
<sigh> Meet her before she goes...
>
> I feel sick. Physically.
Watch that keyboard... :)
>
> Life is just so violently unfair. The ONLY thing I want in this world is
> to have a girlfriend. And no matter what I do, this goal remains
> completely unattainable.
>
> I feel so miserable right now...
Just move out and get a place of your own. Dammit, I'm ordering you to
do that! (Just kidding!) ;)
Come on Andrew, get your act together.
~Steve~
>
> --
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
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St. wrote:
>> Well, I finally managed to get back in contact. My joy was short-lived
>> though. Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a place
>> many hours' drive from here.
>
> <sigh> Meet her before she goes...
Yeah. Inbetween her having to finish her PhD in the next 17 days and her
employer who might be sending her to Japan on Thursday and she's going
on holiday to somewhere else in a few weeks' time and...
>> I feel sick. Physically.
>
> Watch that keyboard... :)
Hey, maybe it'll wash some of the tissue dust off it...
> Just move out and get a place of your own. Dammit, I'm ordering you to
> do that! (Just kidding!) ;)
>
> Come on Andrew, get your act together.
I fail to see how getting a place of my own is going to help in any way,
shape or form. (Never mind the minor detail that I already know I can't
afford it...)
--
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> St. wrote:
>
>> <sigh> Meet her before she goes...
>
> Yeah. Inbetween her having to finish her PhD in the next 17 days and her
> employer who might be sending her to Japan on Thursday and she's going on
> holiday to somewhere else in a few weeks' time and...
Well, maybe she isn't the one for you then, but there's plenty more
out there...
>> Come on Andrew, get your act together.
>
> I fail to see how getting a place of my own is going to help in any way,
> shape or form. (Never mind the minor detail that I already know I can't
> afford it...)
Gah... <starts banging head against wall>. You are SO frustrating
Andrew. :o/
~Steve~
>
> --
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
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>>> <sigh> Meet her before she goes...
>> Yeah. Inbetween her having to finish her PhD in the next 17 days and her
>> employer who might be sending her to Japan on Thursday and she's going on
>> holiday to somewhere else in a few weeks' time and...
>
> Well, maybe she isn't the one for you then, but there's plenty more
> out there...
*sigh* Yeah, it seems she isn't. And that makes me very sad indeed. I
was so hoping she would be... Now I've gone from "I might have a
girlfriend in a few weeks" back to plain "I am hopelessly single", with
no future in sight. Great.
There are plenty of *people* out there, some of whom are female, but it
seems there are very few indeed who are suitable for me. I don't doubt
they exist - just my ability to find them. :-(
>>> Come on Andrew, get your act together.
>> I fail to see how getting a place of my own is going to help in any way,
>> shape or form. (Never mind the minor detail that I already know I can't
>> afford it...)
>
> Gah... <starts banging head against wall>. You are SO frustrating
> Andrew. :o/
Incidentally... that pain you're feeling in your head right now? I get
that when I cough. Which I seem to be doing a lot right now...
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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>> Gah... <starts banging head against wall>. You are SO frustrating
>> Andrew. :o/
>
> Incidentally... that pain you're feeling in your head right now? I get
> that when I cough. Which I seem to be doing a lot right now...
My friend, believe me when I tell you that my head hurts almost
permanently now, and you wouldn't want what's producing it. Really.
~Steve~
>
> --
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> I fail to see how getting a place of my own is going to help in any
> way, shape or form.
Grown up women in the UK generally don't mind that their potential boyfriend
live with his mother?
> (Never mind the minor detail that I already know
> I can't afford it...)
I'm curious. How can that be, when you have a job? Do you have some huge
expenses or do you only work part-time or something?
Rune
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>> I fail to see how getting a place of my own is going to help in any
>> way, shape or form.
>
> Grown up women in the UK generally don't mind that their potential boyfriend
> live with his mother?
Well, I'm 27, she's 25, not sure if that qualifies as "grown up".
>> (Never mind the minor detail that I already know
>> I can't afford it...)
>
> I'm curious. How can that be, when you have a job? Do you have some huge
> expenses or do you only work part-time or something?
Housing prices in the UK are currently astronomical. (But don't worry;
the prices are going to start going down any minute now... OK, maybe in
a minute or two... no, really, they can't just keep rising forever...)
--
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:13:50 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>> Grown up women in the UK generally don't mind that their potential
>> boyfriend live with his mother?
>
> Well, I'm 27, she's 25, not sure if that qualifies as "grown up".
It does. Trust me.
Jim
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:46f933ac$1@news.povray.org...
>>> I fail to see how getting a place of my own is going to help in any
>>> way, shape or form.
>>
>> Grown up women in the UK generally don't mind that their potential
>> boyfriend live with his mother?
>
> Well, I'm 27, she's 25, not sure if that qualifies as "grown up".
Eh???
Are you sure if the Sun qualifies as "bright", or if the Atlantic Ocean
qualifies as "deep"?? Helloo??!! Yes Andrew, twenty-five is VERY grown up.
Childhood and teenage are far gone for both of you. Even she finished high
school eight years ago, and could easily have taken a different path and
have her own children by now.
Sometimes, you say things that are so gauche, they're unintentionally funny
and child-like. Unfortunately, that's because you've experienced nothing of
the adult's world, and that's because you 're still at home, in your
bedroom, being cared for by Mum.
>>> (Never mind the minor detail that I already know
>>> I can't afford it...)
>>
>> I'm curious. How can that be, when you have a job? Do you have some huge
>> expenses or do you only work part-time or something?
>
> Housing prices in the UK are currently astronomical. (But don't worry; the
> prices are going to start going down any minute now... OK, maybe in a
> minute or two... no, really, they can't just keep rising forever...)
>
Yes, buying is getting hard and harder. I agree totally. But that doesn't
justify a strategy of "give up". What happened to the job replacement
search? That story's gone quiet for a while.
You've got to do *something*! Rent a room, live in a caravan, live in a
tent, live in a hostel, share accomodation. If you carry on with the "do
nothing" option as it seems now, soon you will be 30 and still under Mum's
care. People will think you are one of those mentally retarded kids who
HAVE TO be cared for by their parents after they're adults.
And doesn't your Mum deserve a break? She's been a parent for a long time
and surely while she's still young enough to enjoy it, she would like some
of her old free life back that she used to have before the first baby came
along...
--
Brian
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"Brian Elliott" <NotForSpam@AskIfUWant> wrote in message
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Yep.
~Steve~
> Brian
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>> I fail to see how getting a place of my own is going to help in any
>>> way, shape or form.
>>
>> Grown up women in the UK generally don't mind that their potential
>> boyfriend live with his mother?
>
> Well, I'm 27, she's 25, not sure if that qualifies as "grown up".
Let me put it another way. For women who have moved out from home
themselves, do they generally don't mind that their potential boyfriend
still live with his mother?
Do the women you've been interested in live by their parents?
> Housing prices in the UK are currently astronomical.
Renting an apartment is not an option then? What do other young people your
age in the UK do?
Rune
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Rune wrote:
>>> Grown up women in the UK generally don't mind that their potential
>>> boyfriend live with his mother?
>> Well, I'm 27, she's 25, not sure if that qualifies as "grown up".
>
> Let me put it another way. For women who have moved out from home
> themselves, do they generally don't mind that their potential boyfriend
> still live with his mother?
Well, none of the ones I've spoken to seemed to mind.
> Do the women you've been interested in live by their parents?
Let me count... 3 did, 3 didn't.
>> Housing prices in the UK are currently astronomical.
>
> What do other young people your age in the UK do?
You're asking *me*?
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Brian Elliott wrote:
>> Well, I'm 27, she's 25, not sure if that qualifies as "grown up".
>
> Eh??? Helloo??!! Yes Andrew, twenty-five is VERY grown
> up. Childhood and teenage are far gone for both of you.
Well, I guess maybe you could say I'm in "denial" or something.
I really hate being old. I'd much rather be a teenager again...
As a teenager, it's considered "normal" to date girls. As an adult, I
just feel like a dirty old man when I even contemplate interacting with
girls. :-(
> Sometimes, you say things that are so gauche, they're unintentionally
> funny and child-like. Unfortunately, that's because you've experienced
> nothing of the adult's world, and that's because you 're still at home,
> in your bedroom, being cared for by Mum.
Cared for? Heck, this month I think I've seen her about 3 times. The
rest of the time she isn't even here! Heh. (For example, while I've been
suffering with this cold, she's been in north Wales. Suffering even
more, no doubt... When she left, there wasn't even any food in the house.)
(I don't know about the adult's world - I haven't seen the child's one yet!)
>> Housing prices in the UK are currently astronomical.
>
> Yes, buying is getting hard and harder. I agree totally. But that
> doesn't justify a strategy of "give up".
I did actually go to the trouble of going to see a finance advisor to
see what the story really is. I was expecting him to say that something
could be done (after all, that way he gets to sell me a product). But
no. Apparently I simply don't earn enough money.
> What happened to the job
> replacement search? That story's gone quiet for a while.
That came to a halt because I just don't know where to go next.
I started out by writing a CV. I know how to do that. And there are
people who will give you advice and so forth on that. If I know what to
do, I can do it.
But then it came to the actual searching for jobs part. And that I've
never known how to do. And I still don't know how to do it. I've looked
in all the obvious places - the local paper, the local paper's website,
various heavily advertised job websites. I can't find anything remotely
similar to what I'm looking for. So, basically, I'm completely stuck,
and I don't know what to do next.
> You've got to do *something*! Rent a room, live in a caravan, live in a
> tent, live in a hostel, share accomodation.
Hmm. Sleep in a tent and die of hypothermia, or live in a perfectly good
house? Gee, let me think...
No, if I'm going to move out, I need a *real* place to stay. Doesn't
need to be a place, but it at least needs to be SAFE.
> If you carry on with the
> "do nothing" option as it seems now, soon you will be 30 and still under
> Mum's care. People will think you are one of those mentally retarded
> kids who HAVE TO be cared for by their parents after they're adults.
I suppose technically they'd be right...
> And doesn't your Mum deserve a break?
Heh. The day I move out (assuming it ever comes), she will be utterly
devestated. Once I leave, she will be financially ruined, and she will
be utterly alone. She's such an obnoxious women that she doesn't have
any "friends", so she will just sit by herself watching TV with nobody
to tell what a crappy day she had.
I, on the other hand, won't have to put up with some person periodically
storming in and ruining my life... Ah, it will be bliss! If only I knew
how...
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Well, I finally managed to get back in contact. My joy was short-lived
> though. Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a
> place many hours' drive from here.
>
> I feel sick. Physically.
>
> Life is just so violently unfair. The ONLY thing I want in this world is
> to have a girlfriend. And no matter what I do, this goal remains
> completely unattainable.
>
> I feel so miserable right now...
For crying out loud, start a profile at www.okcupid.com and find someone
else!
Regards,
John
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John VanSickle wrote:
>> I feel so miserable right now...
>
> For crying out loud, start a profile at www.okcupid.com and find someone
> else!
Ah yes, join yet another dating website. I'm sure that'll solve
everything...
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:36:44 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> I can't find anything remotely
> similar to what I'm looking for. So, basically, I'm completely stuck,
> and I don't know what to do next.
You've had advice to expand your search to include things that you know
and are good at but don't value. Start there.
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:36:44 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>
>> I can't find anything remotely
>> similar to what I'm looking for. So, basically, I'm completely stuck,
>> and I don't know what to do next.
>
> You've had advice to expand your search to include things that you know
> and are good at but don't value. Start there.
I don't think you understand.
In all the looking I've done, I have yet to find a single job where I
can even say "hey, I could probably do that job". Never mind one where
I'd *want* to do that...
There's really no point applying for a job you know you can't do.
(Unless you enjoy proving to yourself how much you fail...)
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:36:44 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>
>>> I can't find anything remotely
>>> similar to what I'm looking for. So, basically, I'm completely stuck,
>>> and I don't know what to do next.
>>
>> You've had advice to expand your search to include things that you
>> know and are good at but don't value. Start there.
>
> I don't think you understand.
>
> In all the looking I've done, I have yet to find a single job where I
> can even say "hey, I could probably do that job". Never mind one where
> I'd *want* to do that...
Do I need to remind you that you very much restricted yourself
geographically?
>
> There's really no point applying for a job you know you can't do.
> (Unless you enjoy proving to yourself how much you fail...)
>
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:09:48 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:36:44 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>
>>> I can't find anything remotely
>>> similar to what I'm looking for. So, basically, I'm completely stuck,
>>> and I don't know what to do next.
>>
>> You've had advice to expand your search to include things that you know
>> and are good at but don't value. Start there.
>
> I don't think you understand.
>
> In all the looking I've done, I have yet to find a single job where I
> can even say "hey, I could probably do that job". Never mind one where
> I'd *want* to do that...
That's because you don't give yourself the credit for your skills that
you deserve. We've been down this discussion before...
> There's really no point applying for a job you know you can't do.
> (Unless you enjoy proving to yourself how much you fail...)
Um, the job I have now is a job I would've said I was absolutely *not*
qualified to do - because it's essentially a people management position.
(It's actually a programs management position, but there are over a
thousand people in the programs). I got it because I was being laid off
due to cutbacks, and a VP provided me with a safety net because he had a
need he thought I could fill.
I've been here two years, and so far, it's the best job I've ever had.
Turns out I am qualified to do it, I just didn't think I was.
So, so much for *that* logic. ;-)
Jim
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Rune wrote:
>
>>>> Grown up women in the UK generally don't mind that their potential
>>>> boyfriend live with his mother?
>>> Well, I'm 27, she's 25, not sure if that qualifies as "grown up".
>>
>> Let me put it another way. For women who have moved out from home
>> themselves, do they generally don't mind that their potential
>> boyfriend still live with his mother?
>
> Well, none of the ones I've spoken to seemed to mind.
>
>> Do the women you've been interested in live by their parents?
>
> Let me count... 3 did, 3 didn't.
>
>>> Housing prices in the UK are currently astronomical.
>>
>> What do other young people your age in the UK do?
>
> You're asking *me*?
We rent. Buying often doesn't become an option without pooling
resources, be that with parents, partner or friend. There's some pretty
silly lending going on at the moment which makes buying easier but I'm
personally steering clear at the moment (I have many friends and
relatives earning no more than me who have dived into it with glee,
however).
Renting need not be expensive, especially since you're well outside
London and have no intention of going there, although to maximise your
value-for-money you'd probably have to share a place.
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>>> <sigh> Meet her before she goes...
>>> Yeah. Inbetween her having to finish her PhD in the next 17 days and
>>> her employer who might be sending her to Japan on Thursday and she's
>>> going on holiday to somewhere else in a few weeks' time and...
>>
>> Well, maybe she isn't the one for you then, but there's plenty
>> more out there...
>
> *sigh* Yeah, it seems she isn't. And that makes me very sad indeed. I
> was so hoping she would be... Now I've gone from "I might have a
> girlfriend in a few weeks" back to plain "I am hopelessly single", with
> no future in sight. Great.
>
> There are plenty of *people* out there, some of whom are female, but it
> seems there are very few indeed who are suitable for me. I don't doubt
> they exist - just my ability to find them. :-(
>
You ARE making progress.... not too long you never have had any
prospects. Now you actually asked QA girl and it seems like you've come
close on this one.
I think that we speak for all of us here (dissenters can keep quiet) -
we are PROUD of you for your efforts.
Tom
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a
> place many hours' drive from here.
>
Y'know, the last time I looked, you lived on a modest-sized island off
the coast of France.* How far away can she be?
Seriously, unless you've been told in so many words to back off, drop
dead, etc., you really ought to stay in touch with her. Surely she's
not moving someplace out of range of email, snail mail, phone...?
Best case scenario: She finds that she misses you horribly and you end
up living happily ever after. Worst case scenario: You gain (a)
experience communicating with women and (b) a friend.** It's a win/win
situation.
--Sherry Shaw
* Obligatory Pratchett reference.
** Well, okay, the *real* worst case scenario is that she gets a court
order or something, but I don't see you as *quite* that obsessive. ;)
--
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Orchid XP v3 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a
> place many hours' drive from here.
I have never understood why people are so obsessed with moving.
Sometimes it feels that not a month goes by without a friend or someone
I know moving. I know some people who have moved at least 4 times in
one single year!
I have long ago stopped keeping track of where everyone I know lives
because it's just impossible. I would need a database.
--
- Warp
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Tom Austin wrote:
> You ARE making progress.... not too long you never have had any
> prospects. Now you actually asked QA girl and it seems like you've come
> close on this one.
Bah. 5 years ago I *kissed* a girl. I still haven't been able to repeat
that feat...
> I think that we speak for all of us here (dissenters can keep quiet) -
> we are PROUD of you for your efforts.
Really? I thought most of you regarded me as a compulsive whiner who
never listens to any advice...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
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andrel wrote:
>> In all the looking I've done, I have yet to find a single job where I
>> can even say "hey, I could probably do that job". Never mind one where
>> I'd *want* to do that...
> Do I need to remind you that you very much restricted yourself
> geographically?
One of the reasons for getting a new job is so I can spend less time
driving there and back. There's enough big companies in this city;
surely one of them would like some programmers...?
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
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Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v3 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a
>> place many hours' drive from here.
>
> I have never understood why people are so obsessed with moving.
> Sometimes it feels that not a month goes by without a friend or someone
> I know moving. I know some people who have moved at least 4 times in
> one single year!
>
> I have long ago stopped keeping track of where everyone I know lives
> because it's just impossible. I would need a database.
Apparently she moves house every 2 years. She moves into a place,
renovates it, moves out and rents the old place out. She's hoping that
by the time she's old she'll have a huge string of properties bringing
in cash.
So not content with working for an F1 racing team and travelling all
over the world at random moments and completing her PhD, she's also a
property developer in her spare time. (Spare...time...?!)
Seriously doubting there's any *room* in this girls life for a
relationship...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
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Sherry Shaw wrote:
> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>> Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a place
>> many hours' drive from here.
>>
>
> Y'know, the last time I looked, you lived on a modest-sized island off
> the coast of France.* How far away can she be?
Far enough away that I can only go see her once or twice a month. :-(
> Seriously, unless you've been told in so many words to back off, drop
> dead, etc., you really ought to stay in touch with her.
Well, I hope to stay in touch. But it seems highly doubtful that we will
ever be anything more than friends - which makes me very sad.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:27:32 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> One of the reasons for getting a new job is so I can spend less time
> driving there and back.
This is also a reason to find a job anywhere that pays you enough to
afford a place to live.
But we've had this discussion....
Jim
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:36:55 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Seriously doubting there's any *room* in this girls life for a
> relationship...
Let *her* decide that.....(Are you sensing a recurring theme here?)
Jim
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Tom Austin wrote:
>
>> You ARE making progress.... not too long you never have had any
>> prospects. Now you actually asked QA girl and it seems like you've
>> come close on this one.
>
> Bah. 5 years ago I *kissed* a girl. I still haven't been able to repeat
> that feat...
>
So, you aren't a total looser...
>> I think that we speak for all of us here (dissenters can keep quiet) -
>> we are PROUD of you for your efforts.
>
> Really? I thought most of you regarded me as a compulsive whiner who
> never listens to any advice...
>
We have a lot of cheese to go around
Tom
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>> Orchid XP v3 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a place
>>> many hours' drive from here.
>>
>> I have never understood why people are so obsessed with moving.
>> Sometimes it feels that not a month goes by without a friend or someone
>> I know moving. I know some people who have moved at least 4 times in
>> one single year!
>>
>> I have long ago stopped keeping track of where everyone I know lives
>> because it's just impossible. I would need a database.
>
> Apparently she moves house every 2 years. She moves into a place,
> renovates it, moves out and rents the old place out. She's hoping that
> by the time she's old she'll have a huge string of properties bringing
> in cash.
>
> So not content with working for an F1 racing team and travelling all
> over the world at random moments and completing her PhD, she's also a
> property developer in her spare time. (Spare...time...?!)
>
You do like F1 racing - right???
> Seriously doubting there's any *room* in this girls life for a
> relationship...
>
you would be surprised
Don't give up
But don't put all hope in it.
You can make great friends with someone who you see only a couple of
times a month. Friendships like that have a way of taking off sometimes.
It just might give you something to do on weekends ;-0
Tom
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Orchid XP v3 wrote:
> Sherry Shaw wrote:
>> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>
> Well, I hope to stay in touch. But it seems highly doubtful that we will
> ever be anything more than friends - which makes me very sad.
Possibly one of your worst observations in the last weeks. And I was
thinking that indeed you made some good progress. If I was a girl I
would be highly offended by this.
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:52:18 -0400, Tom Austin wrote:
> You can make great friends with someone who you see only a couple of
> times a month. Friendships like that have a way of taking off
> sometimes.
This is very true. I'm a firm believer that if you don't start as
friends, anything more is doomed...
Jim
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Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v3 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>
>>Apparently in "the next month or so" she's moving house to a
>>place many hours' drive from here.
>
>
> I have never understood why people are so obsessed with moving.
> Sometimes it feels that not a month goes by without a friend or someone
> I know moving. I know some people who have moved at least 4 times in
> one single year!
Well, when the rent's due and you can't pay it...
Regards,
John
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> andrel wrote:
>
>>> In all the looking I've done, I have yet to find a single job where I
>>> can even say "hey, I could probably do that job". Never mind one where
>>> I'd *want* to do that...
>
>> Do I need to remind you that you very much restricted yourself
>> geographically?
>
> One of the reasons for getting a new job is so I can spend less time
> driving there and back. There's enough big companies in this city; surely
> one of them would like some programmers...?
Ok, go and knock on *ALL* of their doors and ask to see the personnel
manager's - if they can't see you, just ask the receptionist if there are
any vacancies available. If there aren't, ask to be put on 'the list' and
give them your details, or leave your resume with them.
If you don't do that one simple thing, you will never know what's
'actually' out there. You may be the answer to a problem that they never
realised they had, or you may be the person that somehow would boost their
sales (efficiency in the comp. dept. for example, speeding the whole process
up > creating more sales). You just don't know until you tell them what you
can do.
Just do it, you've got nothing to lose and everything to gain. And,
if you're fortunate enough that someone spots the potential in you and
offers you a place, (it happens!) just go for it regardless of what
wages/salary you may get. You'll save a stack on petrol anyway.
You have ALSO got to think that you are probably 5 to 10 times
*better* than some dude that's been crap in his/her position for a couple of
years - it may be the case that he/she loses their job for you, but so what?
It's a do-or-die world out there, go and do the 'killing'. >:)
~Steve~
>
> --
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
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"andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:46F### [at] hotmailcom...
> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>> Sherry Shaw wrote:
>>> Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>
>> Well, I hope to stay in touch. But it seems highly doubtful that we will
>> ever be anything more than friends - which makes me very sad.
>
> Possibly one of your worst observations in the last weeks. And I was
> thinking that indeed you made some good progress. If I was a girl I would
> be highly offended by this.
Totally agree with this. You get to know people by 'having' friends
Andrew.
~Steve~
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John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> > I have never understood why people are so obsessed with moving.
> > Sometimes it feels that not a month goes by without a friend or someone
> > I know moving. I know some people who have moved at least 4 times in
> > one single year!
> Well, when the rent's due and you can't pay it...
The solution is to spend the rent money in moving your stuff to
another place?
--
- Warp
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andrel wrote:
>> Well, I hope to stay in touch. But it seems highly doubtful that we
>> will ever be anything more than friends - which makes me very sad.
>
> Possibly one of your worst observations in the last weeks. And I was
> thinking that indeed you made some good progress. If I was a girl I
> would be highly offended by this.
What - the fact that what might have been a beautiful relationship will
now never be is "insulting"?
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:12:54 +0200, Orchid XP v3 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> What - the fact that what might have been a beautiful relationship will
> now never be is "insulting"?
What is insulting is that you seem to consider friendship with her to be a
failure. How is friendship not "a beautiful relationship"?
--
FE
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"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:46fbe480$1@news.povray.org...
> andrel wrote:
>
> >> Well, I hope to stay in touch. But it seems highly doubtful that we
> >> will ever be anything more than friends - which makes me very sad.
> >
> > Possibly one of your worst observations in the last weeks. And I was
> > thinking that indeed you made some good progress. If I was a girl I
> > would be highly offended by this.
>
> What - the fact that what might have been a beautiful relationship will
> now never be is "insulting"?
No, the fact that possibly making a new friend makes you very sad.
I dunno about you, but I don't have so many friends that pass up a
friendship that virtually dropped in my lap.
How often do you complain that you don't know anyone who like you. Now
you've got a good chance to change that and, it appears, you're not really
interested.
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