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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: More Detail not rendering
Date: 12 Nov 2020 15:55:08
Message: <web.5fada0896138e76b96893c00@news.povray.org>
Was just browsing the collection, I found that all the 'More Detail' links on
the various submissions don't get rendered by my browser. All I get is the .html
source code in plaintext.

Is my browser broken, or does anybody else see this?

Bill


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: More Detail not rendering
Date: 12 Nov 2020 17:10:01
Message: <web.5fadb1defc8e048a1f9dae300@news.povray.org>
"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Was just browsing the collection, I found that all the 'More Detail' links on
> the various submissions don't get rendered by my browser. All I get is the .html
> source code in plaintext.
>
> Is my browser broken, or does anybody else see this?
>
> Bill

It has been that way for a long, long time, my friend.

http://news.povray.org/povray.object-collection/thread/%3C54e8061c%241%40news.povray.org%3E/

You have to make a local copy and then manually edit it so it displays right.
:|


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From: jr
Subject: Re: More Detail not rendering
Date: 12 Nov 2020 17:15:01
Message: <web.5fadb2d9fc8e048aa8a81eb0@news.povray.org>
hi,

"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Was just browsing the collection, I found that all the 'More Detail' links on
> the various submissions don't get rendered by my browser. All I get is the .html
> source code in plaintext.
>
> Is my browser broken, or does anybody else see this?

same here (Chrome 86.0.4240.183).


regards, jr.


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: More Detail not rendering
Date: 12 Nov 2020 17:25:01
Message: <web.5fadb589fc8e048ab96893c00@news.povray.org>
"Bald Eagle" <cre### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> It has been that way for a long, long time, my friend.
>
>
http://news.povray.org/povray.object-collection/thread/%3C54e8061c%241%40news.povray.org%3E/
>
> You have to make a local copy and then manually edit it so it displays right.
> :|

Oh well, as long as it's a known issue. No worries!


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From: zebulon 1er
Subject: Re: More Detail not rendering
Date: 4 Mar 2021 06:35:00
Message: <web.6040c436fc8e048aea5d10390@news.povray.org>
Hello,

In Firefox (86.0 (64 bits)) I notice the same display bug.

Maybe the answer is in the html source...

lib.povray.org detail pages begin with

<!DOCTYPE html>

only, instead of

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

in all other povray.org pages.

So, I tried by changing this 1st line, in a new local saved file. Then I opened
it in Firefox, and it works. The HTML page is displayed correctly.

Now, you know what to do :)


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From: jr
Subject: Re: More Detail not rendering
Date: 4 Mar 2021 09:00:07
Message: <web.6040e69bfc8e048a79819d980@news.povray.org>
hi,

"zebulon 1er" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In Firefox (86.0 (64 bits)) I notice the same display bug.
>
> Maybe the answer is in the html source...
>
> lib.povray.org detail pages begin with
>
> <!DOCTYPE html>
>
> only, instead of
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
>
> in all other povray.org pages.
>
> So, I tried by changing this 1st line, in a new local saved file. Then I opened
> it in Firefox, and it works. The HTML page is displayed correctly.
>
> Now, you know what to do :)

nice catch.


regards, jr.


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From: Dick Balaska
Subject: Re: More Detail not rendering
Date: 4 Mar 2021 13:08:29
Message: <6041221d$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/4/2021 6:32 AM, zebulon 1er wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> In Firefox (86.0 (64 bits)) I notice the same display bug.
> 
> Maybe the answer is in the html source...
> 
> lib.povray.org detail pages begin with
> 
> <!DOCTYPE html>
> 
> only, instead of
> 
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
> 
> in all other povray.org pages.
> 
> So, I tried by changing this 1st line, in a new local saved file. Then I opened
> it in Firefox, and it works. The HTML page is displayed correctly.
> 
> Now, you know what to do :)
> 
> 

That's not it.  Browsers, Firefox in particular, are very generous in 
what they accept.  I believe if you save that file with the original 
html5 DOCTYPE, it would render just as fine.

The issue is the apache server config, which needs:

AddType text/html .html

to set the output content-type to

Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

instead of

Content-Type: text/plain

-- 
dik
Rendered 50,081,587,200 of 50,081,587,200 pixels (100%)


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: More Detail not rendering
Date: 5 Mar 2021 07:00:27
Message: <60421d5b$1@news.povray.org>
Le 12/11/2020 à 21:52, Bill Pragnell a écrit :
> Was just browsing the collection, I found that all the 'More Detail' links on
> the various submissions don't get rendered by my browser. All I get is the .html
> source code in plaintext.
> 
> Is my browser broken, or does anybody else see this?
> 
> Bill
> 
> 

Nice investigations everyone, BUT the current serving of html as text by
the server IS DONE ON PURPOSE.

It was, IIRC, a reaction to spam-bots filling entries with html to catch
unprotected readers.

Maybe it was not the best move, but it was done.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: More Detail not rendering
Date: 6 Mar 2021 02:40:50
Message: <60433202@news.povray.org>
Op 05/03/2021 om 13:00 schreef Le_Forgeron:
> Le 12/11/2020 à 21:52, Bill Pragnell a écrit :
>> Was just browsing the collection, I found that all the 'More Detail' links on
>> the various submissions don't get rendered by my browser. All I get is the .html
>> source code in plaintext.
>>
>> Is my browser broken, or does anybody else see this?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
> 
> Nice investigations everyone, BUT the current serving of html as text by
> the server IS DONE ON PURPOSE.
> 
> It was, IIRC, a reaction to spam-bots filling entries with html to catch
> unprotected readers.
> 
> Maybe it was not the best move, but it was done.
> 

Indeed. I do remember this. The object collection had become quite 
useless because of those bots. :-/

-- 
Thomas


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: More Detail not rendering
Date: 25 Mar 2021 23:50:40
Message: <605d5a10$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/6/2021 2:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Op 05/03/2021 om 13:00 schreef Le_Forgeron:
>> Le 12/11/2020 à 21:52, Bill Pragnell a écrit :
>>> Was just browsing the collection, I found that all the 'More Detail' 
>>> links on
>>> the various submissions don't get rendered by my browser. All I get 
>>> is the .html
>>> source code in plaintext.
>>>
>>> Is my browser broken, or does anybody else see this?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Nice investigations everyone, BUT the current serving of html as text by
>> the server IS DONE ON PURPOSE.
>>
>> It was, IIRC, a reaction to spam-bots filling entries with html to catch
>> unprotected readers.
>>
>> Maybe it was not the best move, but it was done.
>>
> 
> Indeed. I do remember this. The object collection had become quite 
> useless because of those bots. :-/
> 

Should not try to show/serve an HTML page at all in that case. Maybe 
show some other safer type of markup instead, or just a text file.


Mike


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