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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbell net> wrote:
: You know Gilles I agree with you almost completely. A very vocal minority
: have have asserted that html posts are an -inconvenience- for them and that
: in order to read posts that are in html format they have to use a separate
: program that will read them. This implies they have the resources at their
: disposal to handle html posts but stick with software that does not support
: it out of preference.
The fact that a program _supports_ HTML doesn't mean that it's a _better_
or more _efficient_ program. Do you understand the difference?
: In this case the minority are controlling the majority.
I don't think so. Do you have any trouble reading the text-based articles?
Your statement would be true if the majority had trouble reading them.
We can't offend the left-handed people only because there are only 10% of
them. Are they controlling us? I don't think so.
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Sander <san### [at] stolscom> wrote:
: Was that done in Linux?
Solaris (run in a SparcStation).
I don't have access to the internet with any other system (well, I _COULD_
have, but I will never use Windows to surf in the internet; I don't trust it).
Solaris is just fine for me.
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>
> The reason is that those advanced users are using sophisticated news readers
>and not HTML browsers to read the news. It makes more trouble to use the
>HTML browser than the powerful news reader software.
> I read the binary groups with Netscape's newsreader, and it's always a pain.
>Netscape is huge and very slow in this machine, the download times are
>irritatingly long (it MUST download all the images twice for some reason that
>I don't know), etc.
Netscape seems to d/l the images twice here too, extremely annoying, I thought
it was something to do with the way I upgraded it.
I now read the binaries groups with a text based browser, I can have the
attachments open in a seperate window at the press of a button (or two).
Off topic, - have you discovered ee *.jpg yet, it opens all the jpgs of the
current dir as thumbnails, and the first image in a window the size of the
image, you can navigate (the directory) on the image toolbar or by clicking
on the thumbnails, very useful for camparing images like those door knobs
the other day.
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Steve wrote:
> >irritatingly long (it MUST download all the images twice for some reason that
> >I don't know), etc.
>
> Netscape seems to d/l the images twice here too, extremely annoying, I thought
> it was something to do with the way I upgraded it.
I have used Netscape exclusively since I started reading these groups
2-3 years ago. I have never had to download a message twice to see it.
I have heard others mention this before but I suspect it is operator
error rather than a problem with Netscape.
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Ken wrote:
> Steve wrote:
>
> > >irritatingly long (it MUST download all the images twice for some reason that
> > >I don't know), etc.
> >
> > Netscape seems to d/l the images twice here too, extremely annoying, I thought
> > it was something to do with the way I upgraded it.
>
> I have used Netscape exclusively since I started reading these groups
> 2-3 years ago. I have never had to download a message twice to see it.
> I have heard others mention this before but I suspect it is operator
> error rather than a problem with Netscape.
probably not.
It happens to me here, all the time. On Linux and Win98 both. 4.6 and 4.7. But
since I switched to DSL it's been less painful (i.e. it double-downloads, but is
not too slow to tollerate).
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But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2000 09:12:34 -0800, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
>
>
>Steve wrote:
>
>> >irritatingly long (it MUST download all the images twice for some reason that
>> >I don't know), etc.
>>
>> Netscape seems to d/l the images twice here too, extremely annoying, I thought
>> it was something to do with the way I upgraded it.
>
>I have used Netscape exclusively since I started reading these groups
>2-3 years ago. I have never had to download a message twice to see it.
>I have heard others mention this before but I suspect it is operator
>error rather than a problem with Netscape.
This is only on Linux. My only real dissapointment of moving to 100% Linux
is that what used to be a fantastic package for win95 totally sucks in its
Linux incarnation, the mail clients all suck aswell, but it's stable and fairly
fast, and it's interesting. Oh yess I can run 4 instances of Pov, all long
(2-5 day) renders at the same time, and read my mail, my news, compile
software, go surfing with out noticing that I've got so much going on in the
background.
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Steve email mailto:sjl### [at] ndirectcouk
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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
: I have used Netscape exclusively since I started reading these groups
: 2-3 years ago. I have never had to download a message twice to see it.
It's not that I have to download the message twice to see it; it's that
netscape downloads it twice all by itself although I don't understand why.
The first time it downloads it, it looks just fine, everything is ok. Then
it starts to to download it again, for no apparent reason (funny enough,
this doesn't happen always, but most of the time).
My expression "it must download the image twice" just expressed my
frustration.
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 22:35:58 -0800, Jon A. Cruz wrote:
>I am one of the average people who are more comfortable reading information
>that's not
>splayed completely across the screen, but is instead kept in nicer columns.
>Plain text
>posting is usually wrapped to 80 columns or less, and is more legible. HTML
>postings
>usually don't as well. Take a peek at your average newspaper or magazine to get
>and
>idea of what I mean about columns.
Funny you should mention that... :)
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On Sat, 05 Feb 2000 10:42:51 -0800, Leroy Whetstone wrote:
><HTML>
>Is this submission <HTML>?</HTML>
In the netscape sense of the word, yeah. In reality, no, it's
noncompliant. The > sign should be >
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In article <slr### [at] rongwmicrocom> ,
ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron Parker) wrote:
>><HTML>
>>Is this submission <HTML>?</HTML>
>
> In the netscape sense of the word, yeah. In reality, no, it's
> noncompliant. The > sign should be >
Interesting you mention that, just yesterday I ran into that trap when
generating a simply html page with the Netscape Communicator Composer.
It is a really annoying bug...
Thorsten
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