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>>> And Date Created, Date Modified, Size, and Kind.
>> 
>> Are you sure all of those are in 10.1?  I only remember seeing "by name"...
> 
> No I'm not...I'm using 10.2.4 here.

Oh, alright.  Would the other options appear in the context menu or would they
only be in the "View" menu?  If both sections are the same then the other sort
features were brought back in Jaguar.

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> Found it:
> http://www.vercruesse.de/software
>
> I don't think I'm despairate enough to pay for a tool to do that (at least
not
> right now...).  One of these days... :)

IIRC it works without paying ... also I did pay for it.

> Another nice-looking tool, WindowShade X:
> http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/wsx/

Yes, very important to keep the dock clean (one can configure it such that
Windows don't end up being displayed in the dock).  After that, the dock
works almost the same way as the tear-down application list window in
icon-only view!

Another nice too is FruitMenu, which gives you back an Mac OS style "Apple
menu.

The only thing I haven't found yet it something that brings back the Mac OS
Finder drawers at the bottom of the screen.  I have only a handful folders I
need to access regularly, and those were very useful as the windows didn't
stick around can cluttered the screen...

Oh, and personally I fixed the jittering menu problem for me a long time ago
by using the option in one of those tools to make the menu with the
application name show _only_ the application icon - which is always the same
size and the menu stops jittering :-)

    Thorsten

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Thorsten Froehlich's furious key-hammering produced this:
>> Found it:
>> http://www.vercruesse.de/software
>>
>> I don't think I'm despairate enough to pay for a tool to do that (at least
>> not right now...).  One of these days... :)
> 
> IIRC it works without paying ... also I did pay for it.

Hmm, if it works without paying I might give it a go and buy it when I get the
money for it.

>> Another nice-looking tool, WindowShade X:
>> http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/wsx/
> 
> Yes, very important to keep the dock clean (one can configure it such that
> Windows don't end up being displayed in the dock).  After that, the dock
> works almost the same way as the tear-down application list window in
> icon-only view!

Nice!  While there are some parts of the dock that I like, I think that being
able to simply windowshade some windows would clean up the dock considerably.
I don't think it would be as bad if Apple did something like Microsoft did in
Windows XP.  In XP, if there are too many entries in the taskbar they are
grouped by application.  For instance, if you had six Windows Explorer windows
open and four Internet Explorer windows open, there would be two menu-like
items, one for each application.  Clicking on them then gives you a list of
what windows are open for that application.

If something like that were implemented in OS X I wouldn't mind not being able
to windowshade.  Having many Finder and IE windows minimized to the dock doesn't
work out too well, though... :)

> Another nice too is FruitMenu, which gives you back an Mac OS style "Apple
> menu.

I was looking at that application and think it would be very nice for clearing
up the dock a little bit.  Personally, there are a few applications on my system
that I don't use that often but enough that I don't want to have to dig into my
applications folder just to start them.

I was looking at definitely buying this one...

> The only thing I haven't found yet it something that brings back the Mac OS
> Finder drawers at the bottom of the screen.

I miss those, too.  They're much more convenient than the dock.

> Oh, and personally I fixed the jittering menu problem for me a long time ago
> by using the option in one of those tools to make the menu with the
> application name show _only_ the application icon - which is always the same
> size and the menu stops jittering :-)

Oh, that's a good idea!  I have noticed that I tend to get myself stuck for a
second while opening the file menu in OS X (as you were talking about a few days
ago with Chris).  While I think the application menu looks more logical, you are
right, it can throw someone off a bit.

I've been really thinking about a pattern I've noticed.  Many Windows users try
their hardest to make their Windows desktop to look like Mac OS X.  Meanwhile,
many OS X users seem to want to make it look and feel more like OS 9.
Interesting. :)

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On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 18:45:35 +1100, Ian J. Burgmyer wrote
(in message <3e6af11f@news.povray.org>):

[snippity]

>> The only thing I haven't found yet it something that brings back the Mac OS
>> Finder drawers at the bottom of the screen.
> 
> I miss those, too.  They're much more convenient than the dock.

DragonDrop?
http://cs.oberlin.edu/~dadamson/DragonDrop/

It's 'happyware'.

Have Fun
Martin
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In article <0001HW.BA9143CE0007A6F2F0305600@news.povray.org> , Martin Crisp
<Spa### [at] tesseractcomau>  wrote:

> DragonDrop?
> http://cs.oberlin.edu/~dadamson/DragonDrop/

A nice step into the right direction, but it isn't there yet (also that
could be fixed, I rather wait for the original author to do it).  I will
keep it bookmarked.

    Thorsten

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In article <3e681dd3$1@news.povray.org>,
 "Ian J. Burgmyer" <the### [at] maccom> wrote:

> Oh, alright.  Would the other options appear in the context menu or would they
> only be in the "View" menu?  If both sections are the same then the other sort
> features were brought back in Jaguar.

There are no options for this sort of thing in the contextual menus.

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In article <3e681d66@news.povray.org>,
 "Ian J. Burgmyer" <the### [at] maccom> wrote:

> Also, something Chris Huff might be interested in for his G3:
> http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/shadowkiller/

Why?

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Christopher James Huff's furious key-hammering produced this:
>> Also, something Chris Huff might be interested in for his G3:
>> http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/shadowkiller/
> 
> Why?

Just to speed things up a little.  IIRC, you said a while back that window
dragging felt sluggish.

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In article <3e6d4ae5$1@news.povray.org>,
 "Ian J. Burgmyer" <the### [at] maccom> wrote:

> >> Also, something Chris Huff might be interested in for his G3:
> >> http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/shadowkiller/
> > 
> > Why?
> 
> Just to speed things up a little.  IIRC, you said a while back that window
> dragging felt sluggish.

Well, Thorsten was the one complaining about speed, I was saying it was 
fast enough. Any speed increase I'd get wouldn't be worth the loss of 
visual feedback.

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Christopher James Huff's furious key-hammering produced this:
>> Just to speed things up a little.  IIRC, you said a while back that window
>> dragging felt sluggish.
> 
> Well, Thorsten was the one complaining about speed, I was saying it was 
> fast enough.

Oh, okay.  My mistake.

> Any speed increase I'd get wouldn't be worth the loss of visual feedback.

It's only a shadow under the window. ;)

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