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From: Ryan Mooney
Subject: Re: Build 173 not working in Mac OS 9.1
Date: 2 Dec 2002 23:19:09
Message: <3DEC30C4.46C5A9D0@earthlink.net>
YES... That is part of the reason i want it to work here... =]

=[

Simon Lemieux wrote:

> > No. Even if there were, the beta versions have expiration dates, they
> > won't work any more. And don't count on getting *any* support, they are
> > *beta* versions, and have problems that were fixed in the final release.
>
> Bummer!...   It's alright, I'm okay with MegaPov for now...  I'm just
> learning Isosurfaces...  btw, are there any changes from MegaPov isos to
> Pov3.5 isos?
>
> Thanks,
>   Simon


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From: Ryan Mooney
Subject: Re: Build 173 not working in Mac OS 9.1
Date: 2 Dec 2002 23:20:08
Message: <3DEC30FE.5A3E199@earthlink.net>
Know any macintosh savvy programers... ??
Ryan... =]



> Hi all,
>
> Is there a solution to make POV-Ray 3.5 (build 173) work in Mac 0S 9.1 ?
> I had no problem running the beta versions some months ago, but the
> final 3.5 wouldn't render any scene at all, even when I try increasing
> the memory I give to it.
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Here is how to duplicate the problem :
>
> 1) launch POV-RAY 3.5 : the copyright message appears in the "Message
> console"
> 2) open any scene file (for exemple from the 'scenes' folder)
> 3) make sure all preview options are OK using the 'Render Settings'
>    multi-pane dialog
> 4) hit command-R (or use the menu option)
>
> Symptoms :
>
> The dialog "Render Progress" shows up, with an animated infinite
> candy bar. The dialog is functional (the arrow is working to
> shrink/expand it) but nothing happens : the candy bar turns,
> there are no new messages at all in the "Messages" console.
>
> The only way out is to force-quit POV-Ray (option-cmd-esc)
> after a couple of minutes of candy bar mesmerization.
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> Specifications of my Mac :
>
> Performa 6400 with a G3/400 Sonnet card.
> System 9.1 (French)
> CarbonLib 1.5
>
> Sincerely yours,
> Stephane.


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From: Christopher James Huff
Subject: Re: Build 173 not working in Mac OS 9.1
Date: 2 Dec 2002 23:40:56
Message: <chrishuff-D3EF1A.23374402122002@netplex.aussie.org>
In article <3DEA9897.5A5077ED@no_spam.com>,
 Simon Lemieux <no_### [at] no_spamcom> wrote:

> Bummer!...   It's alright, I'm okay with MegaPov for now...  I'm just
> learning Isosurfaces...  btw, are there any changes from MegaPov isos to
> Pov3.5 isos?

Some changes..."sign" seems to be gone, "eval" has been replaced with 
"evaluate" and has a new syntax, "method" isn't used, the "^" operator 
isn't there, etc...MegaPOV is pretty much obsolete, 3.5 is a better 
option if you can get it running. I have no idea what is causing your 
problems though...I don't even use OS 9 any more.

-- 
Christopher James Huff <cja### [at] earthlinknet>
http://home.earthlink.net/~cjameshuff/
POV-Ray TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg
http://tag.povray.org/


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From: Christopher James Huff
Subject: Re: Build 173 not working in Mac OS 9.1
Date: 3 Dec 2002 20:53:04
Message: <chrishuff-EB8B3E.20500203122002@netplex.aussie.org>
In article <3DEC3087.392F6028@earthlink.net>,
 Ryan Mooney <rdm### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:

> I am wondering if i put some time into getting this fixed, will you be
> available for support... I know you said you do not have the resources but
> any help on the compiling and programing would be great... I really am
> annoyed by "unfixed" problems... =]

I don't use OS 9.x or Metrowerks CodeWarrior, so I don't know what you 
expect from me. And not to discourage you, but I doubt you have any 
concept of what you are getting into...do you have in-depth experience 
with C, C++, and Carbon? It is unlikely someone unfamiliar with the 
language, API, or source code will be able to fix anything before the 
maintainer of the software does.

-- 
Christopher James Huff <cja### [at] earthlinknet>
http://home.earthlink.net/~cjameshuff/
POV-Ray TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg
http://tag.povray.org/


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From: Stéphane Nicolet
Subject: Re: Build 173 not working in Mac OS 9.1
Date: 4 Dec 2002 05:05:41
Message: <1fmnyd6.1lvgpce1p8k5tsN%cassio@free.fr>
Christopher James Huff <chr### [at] maccom> wrote:

> Do you have in-depth experience 
> with C, C++, and Carbon? It is unlikely someone unfamiliar with the 
> language, API, or source code will be able to fix anything before the
> maintainer of the software does.

Talking about that, and although it is hard to tell if it is the source
of POV-Ray's current problem, there was a significant change with
CarbonLib verion 1.6 in the way CarbonLib handles re-exporting imported
System APIs. From "CarbonLib 1.6 Tech Note":

" Previous versions of CarbonLib weak-linked against all of the system
libraries that provided APIs which were re-exported from CarbonLib.
CarbonLib 1.6 uses a new lazy loading system for many of these
libraries; instead of weak-linking the library, CarbonLib provides a
glue function that loads the library when an API from the library is
first called. This provides a significant reduction in memory usage in
applications that do not use all of the lazily loaded libraries, and
also a significant improvement in application launch time, especially on
older hardware.

NOTE: the lazy loading feature causes a significant change in how
applications should test for the availability of APIs. Because CarbonLib
is now providing glue for APIs that were previously weak-linked, the
t-vectors exported from CarbonLib for these APIs will be non-NULL even
on system software that does not have the library in question. As
always, we recommend using Gestalt to check for the presence of a system
software library. Some libraries do not have a Gestalt selector; in
these cases, you may need to use GetSharedLibrary to check for the
presence of the library."


Stephane.


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From: Simon Lemieux
Subject: Re: Build 173 not working in Mac OS 9.1
Date: 8 Dec 2002 13:40:30
Message: <3DF392DB.3266D204@no_spam.com>
> Some changes..."sign" seems to be gone, "eval" has been replaced with
> "evaluate" and has a new syntax, "method" isn't used, the "^" operator
> isn't there, etc...MegaPOV is pretty much obsolete, 3.5 is a better
> option if you can get it running. I have no idea what is causing your
> problems though...I don't even use OS 9 any more.

Ok, someone gave me an URL listing all the changes from one to the other.

As for my problem, well, I guess it has to do with the queue.

Thanks!
  Simon


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Build 173 not working in Mac OS 9.1
Date: 1 Mar 2003 10:25:31
Message: <3e60d0eb@news.povray.org>
In article <1fmc1a0.1ccpuzt1rng9j4N%cassio@free.fr> , cassio@free.fr 


> Is there a solution to make POV-Ray 3.5 (build 173) work in Mac 0S 9.1 ?
> I had no problem running the beta versions some months ago, but the
> final 3.5 wouldn't render any scene at all, even when I try increasing
> the memory I give to it.

Get the POV-Ray 3.5.1 Public Release Candidate 1 (expires March 25th) from
<http://mac.povray.org/download/macosx102.html>

    Thorsten

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From: Andrew Krakowski
Subject: Re: Build 173 not working in Mac OS 9.1
Date: 13 Jan 2004 12:11:11
Message: <BC2966B0.FFD%krakow@uvic.ca>
This seems to be the problem I am having where I just downloaded the
program,  tried to render but it failed.

I have 9.1 (so no X), are there any older versions I can download that work
on 9.1?
 

> 
>> Is there a solution to make POV-Ray 3.5 (build 173) work in Mac 0S 9.1 ?
>> I had no problem running the beta versions some months ago, but the
>> final 3.5 wouldn't render any scene at all, even when I try increasing
>> the memory I give to it.
> 
> Get the POV-Ray 3.5.1 Public Release Candidate 1 (expires March 25th) from
> <http://mac.povray.org/download/macosx102.html>
>


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From: Christopher James Huff
Subject: Re: Build 173 not working in Mac OS 9.1
Date: 14 Jan 2004 15:37:51
Message: <cjameshuff-747A4A.15380914012004@netplex.aussie.org>
In article <BC2966B0.FFD%kra### [at] uvicca>,
 Andrew Krakowski <kra### [at] uvicca> wrote:

> This seems to be the problem I am having where I just downloaded the
> program,  tried to render but it failed.
> 
> I have 9.1 (so no X), are there any older versions I can download that work
> on 9.1?

Download MacMegaPOV:
http://users.skynet.be/smellenbergh/

-- 
Christopher James Huff <cja### [at] earthlinknet>
http://home.earthlink.net/~cjameshuff/
POV-Ray TAG: <chr### [at] tagpovrayorg>
http://tag.povray.org/


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Build 173 not working in Mac OS 9.1
Date: 14 Jan 2004 17:52:48
Message: <4005c840$1@news.povray.org>
In article <BC2966B0.FFD%kra### [at] uvicca> , Andrew Krakowski <kra### [at] uvicca>
wrote:

> This seems to be the problem I am having where I just downloaded the
> program,  tried to render but it failed.
>
> I have 9.1 (so no X), are there any older versions I can download that work
> on 9.1?

Get it anyway:  It does work (well, except that it expires tomorrow) on
9.0.4 and later, also 9.2.2 is strongly recommended.

    Thorsten

____________________________________________________
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e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg

I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
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