Hey everyone, I'm new here and wanted to ask a question, hopefully this is the
correct place... Where can I get the source for the very early versions of
POV-Ray? There may have been a 0.5 version or similar back in the early 1990's
but I can't find it anywhere.
Thanks in advance!

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hi,

"Bob" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Hey everyone, I'm new here and wanted to ask a question, hopefully this is the
> correct place... Where can I get the source for the very early versions of
> POV-Ray? There may have been a 0.5 version or similar back in the early 1990's
> but I can't find it anywhere.
> Thanks in advance!

<https://github.com/OS2World/APP-GRAPHICS-Dkbtrace> ?


regards, jr.

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"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> hi,
>
> "Bob" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > Hey everyone, I'm new here and wanted to ask a question, hopefully this is the
> > correct place... Where can I get the source for the very early versions of
> > POV-Ray? There may have been a 0.5 version or similar back in the early 1990's
> > but I can't find it anywhere.
> > Thanks in advance!
>
> <https://github.com/OS2World/APP-GRAPHICS-Dkbtrace> ?
>
>
> regards, jr.

This is DKBTrace 2.12, not POV-Ray 0.x. They were two separate programs.

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"Bob" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > "Bob" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > > Hey everyone, I'm new here and wanted to ask a question, hopefully this is the
> > > correct place... Where can I get the source for the very early versions of
> > > POV-Ray? There may have been a 0.5 version or similar back in the early 1990's
> > > but I can't find it anywhere.
> > > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > <https://github.com/OS2World/APP-GRAPHICS-Dkbtrace> ?
> >
> >
> > regards, jr.
>
> This is DKBTrace 2.12, not POV-Ray 0.x. They were two separate programs.

It's not completely separate:

"The Early History of POV-Ray"
https://www.povray.org/documentation/3.7.0/t2_1.html#t2_1_6

--
Tor Olav
http://subcube.com
https://github.com/t-o-k

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"Tor Olav Kristensen" <tor### [at] TOBEREMOVEDgmailcom> wrote:
> "Bob" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > "jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > "Bob" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > > > Hey everyone, I'm new here and wanted to ask a question, hopefully this is the
> > > > correct place... Where can I get the source for the very early versions of
> > > > POV-Ray? There may have been a 0.5 version or similar back in the early 1990's
> > > > but I can't find it anywhere.
> > > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > > <https://github.com/OS2World/APP-GRAPHICS-Dkbtrace> ?
> > >
> > >
> > > regards, jr.
> >
> > This is DKBTrace 2.12, not POV-Ray 0.x. They were two separate programs.
>
> It's not completely separate:
>
> "The Early History of POV-Ray"
> https://www.povray.org/documentation/3.7.0/t2_1.html#t2_1_6
>
> --
> Tor Olav
> http://subcube.com
> https://github.com/t-o-k

Sure, but I still would like to obtain POV-Ray 0.5... I have some ancient scenes
that don't render with DKBTrace nor POV-Ray 1.0, and their syntax is like a
hybrid between the two.

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Op 20-5-2021 om 12:02 schreef Bob:
> Sure, but I still would like to obtain POV-Ray 0.5... I have some ancient scenes
> that don't render with DKBTrace nor POV-Ray 1.0, and their syntax is like a
> hybrid between the two.
> 
The correct name seems to be: "PvRay Version 0.5" (sic), "BETA Release 
9/07/91",

https://www.povray.org/documentation/3.7.0/t2_1.html

but it does not seem to be available on the net anywhere. No results 
from the WayBackMachine either.

-- 
Thomas

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Op 20-5-2021 om 12:02 schreef Bob:
> > Sure, but I still would like to obtain POV-Ray 0.5... I have some ancient scenes
> > that don't render with DKBTrace nor POV-Ray 1.0, and their syntax is like a
> > hybrid between the two.
> >
> The correct name seems to be: "PvRay Version 0.5" (sic), "BETA Release
> 9/07/91",
>
> https://www.povray.org/documentation/3.7.0/t2_1.html
>
> but it does not seem to be available on the net anywhere. No results
> from the WayBackMachine either.
>
> --
> Thomas

This helps actually, I ran a search for PvRay and found a copy for Macintosh on
an old CD-ROM uploaded to the Internet Archive:
https://archive.org/details/MacintoshMania1
Unfortunately I don't know what to do with it as I don't have a Macintosh. I was
able to browse the contents of the CD on my Linux machine but all the
executables (?) are reported as zero byte files. Regular text files display
properly though.

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hi,

"Bob" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> > Op 20-5-2021 om 12:02 schreef Bob:
> > > Sure, but I still would like to obtain POV-Ray 0.5... I have some ancient scenes
> > > that don't render with DKBTrace nor POV-Ray 1.0, and their syntax is like a
> > > hybrid between the two.
> > >
> > The correct name seems to be: "PvRay Version 0.5" (sic), "BETA Release
> > 9/07/91",
> >
> > {...}
> >
> > but it does not seem to be available on the net anywhere. No results
> > from the WayBackMachine either.
> >
> > --
> > Thomas
>
> This helps actually, I ran a search for PvRay and found a copy for Macintosh on
> an old CD-ROM uploaded to the Internet Archive:
> https://archive.org/details/MacintoshMania1
> Unfortunately I don't know what to do with it as I don't have a Macintosh. I was
> able to browse the contents of the CD on my Linux machine but all the
> executables (?) are reported as zero byte files. Regular text files display
> properly though.

by "regular text files" you mean source code?  you could embark on a "nice"
project, getting it (bit by bit) to compile.  :-)  alternatively, maybe use an
emulator?  the Google snippet for <https://9to5mac.com> claims: "the emulator
allows you to run a wide range of early Macintosh software, from the MacWrite
and MacPaint apps supplied with the machine..."


regards, jr.

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in news:web.60a66ed5ef7e98f3614e33ab757cdd57@news.povray.org Bob wrote:

> PvRay
Maybe, I've not downloaded it:

Content:
https://books.google.nl/books/about/Raytracing_Box.html?
id=cqE5HQAACAAJ&redir_esc=y :
Raytracer (PoV, Vivid, Polyray, PVRay u.a.), Raytracing-Utilities 



auf CD / Herbert Buckel, Volume 2

Download:
https://archive.org/details/franzisraytracingbox

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"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> hi,
>
> by "regular text files" you mean source code?  you could embark on a "nice"
> project, getting it (bit by bit) to compile.  :-)  alternatively, maybe use an
> emulator?  the Google snippet for <https://9to5mac.com> claims: "the emulator
> allows you to run a wide range of early Macintosh software, from the MacWrite
> and MacPaint apps supplied with the machine..."
>
>
> regards, jr.

No I mean documentation, changelog...etc. No source code I'm afraid.
Couldn't find any emulators on that page you linked.

ingo <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> in news:web.60a66ed5ef7e98f3614e33ab757cdd57@news.povray.org Bob wrote:
>
> > PvRay
> Maybe, I've not downloaded it:
>
> Content:
> https://books.google.nl/books/about/Raytracing_Box.html?
> id=cqE5HQAACAAJ&redir_esc=y :
> Raytracer (PoV, Vivid, Polyray, PVRay u.a.), Raytracing-Utilities
>
>
>
> auf CD / Herbert Buckel, Volume 2
>
> Download:
> https://archive.org/details/franzisraytracingbox

That's only POV-Ray 2.0, but thanks for the suggestion.

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