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From: Tailkinker
Subject: To: The POV team On: Exact terms of the license
Date: 20 Aug 2003 09:25:52
Message: <pan.2003.08.20.13.26.35.970910@yahoo.co.uk>
I am in the process of writing a fractal landscape program.  This program
exports POV code.  It is freeware, and I cannot see myself ever charging
more than the cost of the distribution.

So:  If I roast a copy of the program on CD for a friend, am I legally
allowed to place POV-Ray on the CD?

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From: None
Subject: Re: To: The POV team On: Exact terms of the license
Date: 20 Aug 2003 11:50:00
Message: <Xns93DD786284377None@204.213.191.226>
"Tailkinker" <gro### [at] yahoocouk> wrote in
news:pan### [at] yahoocouk: 

> I am in the process of writing a fractal landscape program.  This
> program exports POV code.  It is freeware, and I cannot see myself
> ever charging more than the cost of the distribution.
> 
> So:  If I roast a copy of the program on CD for a friend, am I legally
> allowed to place POV-Ray on the CD?

A little reading goes a long way...
http://www.povray.org/povlegal.html

See: "CONDITIONS FOR CD-ROM DISTRIBUTION
CONDITIONS FOR SHAREWARE/FREEWARE DISTRIBUTION"
and "CONDITIONS FOR COMMERCIAL BUNDLING"

How much more exact do you want them to be?

If you can't be bothered to read: Basically you can't charge for Povray.
 And if you are distributing it on CD as part of a freeware bundle, you
can't charge a distribution fee for CDs containing Povray of more than 2
cents per MB.  But you really should read the license to get all the
details.


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From: Tailkinker
Subject: Re: To: The POV team On: Exact terms of the license
Date: 20 Aug 2003 16:10:44
Message: <pan.2003.08.20.20.11.30.564635@yahoo.co.uk>
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:50:00 -0400, None wrote:

> See: "CONDITIONS FOR CD-ROM DISTRIBUTION CONDITIONS FOR
> SHAREWARE/FREEWARE DISTRIBUTION" and "CONDITIONS FOR COMMERCIAL
> BUNDLING"

"Also, a distribution that would otherwise have qualified under the
'shareware/freeware distributor' terms, but which is constructed in such a
way that it would be of little or no practical use without POV-Ray, is
considered commercial and must use the commercial bundling rules."

My program is worthless without POV-Ray.  But it is freeware.

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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: To: The POV team On: Exact terms of the license
Date: 21 Aug 2003 04:27:51
Message: <3f448287$1@news.povray.org>
In article <pan### [at] yahoocouk> , "Tailkinker" 
<gro### [at] yahoocouk> wrote:

> So:  If I roast a copy of the program on CD for a friend, am I legally
> allowed to place POV-Ray on the CD?

Let me get this straight:

You ask if you may burn a freeware program on a CD together with other
freeware program(s) and give that CD to a friend?

If this is the question, then the answer is:

No!!!  By no means you may do so!  The POV-Team will send the police to your
house.  Get you arrested and put in prison.  Later you will be executed.

Obviously it is a clear license violation to if you make a physical
distribution of POV-Ray "for any purpose other than personal sharing".  And
it is obvious that burning POV-Ray and a bunch of other freeware programs on
a CD and giving it to a friend must be something else than "personal
sharing".  I suppose we should call the international war crimes tribunal
rather than a regular court to handle such a serious crime!

What other kind of penalty do you expect for making a copy of any freeware
for a friend?

    Thorsten


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From: None
Subject: Re: To: The POV team On: Exact terms of the license
Date: 21 Aug 2003 11:01:21
Message: <Xns93DE70241A9ECNone@204.213.191.226>
"Tailkinker" <gro### [at] yahoocouk> wrote in
news:pan### [at] yahoocouk: 

> My program is worthless without POV-Ray.  But it is freeware.

If your program is freeware then I still don't understand why you need to 
charge for distributing your program when the internet exists.  However, if 
you are determined to distrubute your software on CD and bundle Povray with 
it, then, as you determined yourself, you'll need to contact the Povteam to 
get permission (see bottom of legal terms for contact info).  I suspect, 
and this is my opinion only, that if your software really is freeware, then 
they will simply ask you to abide to the 2 cents per MB of content on CD 
rule.  If your software is not freeware, but actually shareware, commercial 
or a demo, then I imagine the terms will be different.


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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: To: The POV team On: Exact terms of the license
Date: 21 Aug 2003 16:10:04
Message: <MPG.19aed3c8ce14478b989869@news.povray.org>
In article <3f448287$1@news.povray.org>, tho### [at] trfde says...
> In article <pan### [at] yahoocouk> , "Tailkinker" 
> <gro### [at] yahoocouk> wrote:
> 
> > So:  If I roast a copy of the program on CD for a friend, am I legally
> > allowed to place POV-Ray on the CD?
> 
> Let me get this straight:
> 
> You ask if you may burn a freeware program on a CD together with other
> freeware program(s) and give that CD to a friend?
> 
> If this is the question, then the answer is:
> 
> No!!!  By no means you may do so!  The POV-Team will send the police to your
> house.  Get you arrested and put in prison.  Later you will be executed.
> 
> Obviously it is a clear license violation to if you make a physical
> distribution of POV-Ray "for any purpose other than personal sharing".  And
> it is obvious that burning POV-Ray and a bunch of other freeware programs on
> a CD and giving it to a friend must be something else than "personal
> sharing".  I suppose we should call the international war crimes tribunal
> rather than a regular court to handle such a serious crime!
> 
> What other kind of penalty do you expect for making a copy of any freeware
> for a friend?
> 
>     Thorsten
> 

Careful, anyone how had to ask the question in the first place might 
actually take this seriously.

-- 
void main () {

    call functional_code()
  else
    call crash_windows();
}


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