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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Posting exes a problem for some clients?
Date: 25 Mar 2025 10:11:39
Message: <67e2b99b$1@news.povray.org>
I have been using, or trying to use, thunderbird, and more recently 
betterbird to read the posts from this server for a while. Recently I 
have run into cases of it just crashing out on me within seconds of 
clicking on a post. I finally figured out what "one" of them at least 
had that was different - it contained not a sensible "zip" file, or the 
like, but an actual EXE. Not sure why this is the case, other than that 
maybe the "preview" functionality for showing things in-message, is 
somehow trying to "show", i.e., run these things, and the client is 
going, "Nope!", and crashing. But.. I have to wonder, having noted this 
case, if somehow this is what is taking place.

In any case, I would recommend, just for sanity sake, if these where 
zipped anyway. And, maybe, if its just me, or if others might be having 
the same issue, this would also resolve crashes.

Its annoying when a crash does happen, because the client "forgets" 
everything you did that session for me. As in, it reverts back, not to 
the point just before the message you clicked that caused it, but to 
before you even started reading any from the server at all. This makes 
pinning down both a) what is causing it, and b) why, and even c) which 
message. I just got real lucky this time, since the one that caused to 
thing to blow up happened to be both clearly labelled as a new utility, 
and I got a brief flash of the message, just before things went boom, so 
knew what to look for. :(

-- 
Commander Vimes: "You take a bunch of people who don't seem any 
different from you and me, but when you add them all together you get 
this sort of huge raving maniac with national borders and an anthem."


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From: jr
Subject: Re: Posting exes a problem for some clients?
Date: 25 Mar 2025 10:30:00
Message: <web.67e2bcd9af743781721a48e56cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

Patrick Elliott <kag### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> I have been using, or trying to use, thunderbird, and more recently
> betterbird to read the posts from this server for a while. Recently I
> have run into cases of it just crashing out on me within seconds of
> clicking on a post. ...

use the "other" interface to read ?
<https://news.povray.org/digest/allmessages/>


> --
> Commander Vimes: "You take a bunch of people who don't seem any
> different from you and me, but when you add them all together you get
> this sort of huge raving maniac with national borders and an anthem."


regards, jr.


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From: kurtz le pirate
Subject: Re: Posting exes a problem for some clients?
Date: 25 Mar 2025 13:37:19
Message: <67e2e9cf$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/03/2025 15:11, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> I have been using, or trying to use, thunderbird, and more recently 
> betterbird to read the posts from this server for a while. Recently I 
> have run into cases of it just crashing out on me within seconds of 
> clicking on a post. I finally figured out what "one" of them at least 
> had that was different - it contained not a sensible "zip" file, or the 
> like, but an actual EXE. Not sure why this is the case, other than that 
> maybe the "preview" functionality for showing things in-message, is 
> somehow trying to "show", i.e., run these things, and the client is 
> going, "Nope!", and crashing. But.. I have to wonder, having noted this 
> case, if somehow this is what is taking place.
> 
> In any case, I would recommend, just for sanity sake, if these where 
> zipped anyway. And, maybe, if its just me, or if others might be having 
> the same issue, this would also resolve crashes.
> 
> Its annoying when a crash does happen, because the client "forgets" 
> everything you did that session for me. As in, it reverts back, not to 
> the point just before the message you clicked that caused it, but to 
> before you even started reading any from the server at all. This makes 
> pinning down both a) what is causing it, and b) why, and even c) which 
> message. I just got real lucky this time, since the one that caused to 
> thing to blow up happened to be both clearly labelled as a new utility, 
> and I got a brief flash of the message, just before things went boom, so 
> knew what to look for. :(
> 




Strange. I also use Thunderbird and I've never had this kind of crash. 
This is the macOS 128.7.1esr (64-bit) version.

Clearly, posting “.exe” directly is dangerous and should not be done. 
But from that to crashing the software...

Do you have a reference to a message containing an exe so that I can 
redo a test and see what happens?







-- 
kurtz le pirate
compagnie de la banquise


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Posting exes a problem for some clients?
Date: 27 Mar 2025 04:20:33
Message: <67e50a51$1@news.povray.org>
Op 25/03/2025 om 15:11 schreef Patrick Elliott:
> I have been using, or trying to use, thunderbird, and more recently 
> betterbird to read the posts from this server for a while. Recently I 
> have run into cases of it just crashing out on me within seconds of 
> clicking on a post. I finally figured out what "one" of them at least 
> had that was different - it contained not a sensible "zip" file, or the 
> like, but an actual EXE. Not sure why this is the case, other than that 
> maybe the "preview" functionality for showing things in-message, is 
> somehow trying to "show", i.e., run these things, and the client is 
> going, "Nope!", and crashing. But.. I have to wonder, having noted this 
> case, if somehow this is what is taking place.
> 
For the record, using Win11, I have been using Thunderbird for ages to 
read the POV ng's and never had any crashes with .exe files included in 
a message. So this seems to be a particular/special case? just my two 
eurocents...

-- 
Thomas


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