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From: Chris Cason
Subject: DSOTM turned 50 and Pink Floyd's having an animation smackdown
Date: 7 Mar 2023 05:31:07
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This is gonna get interesting considering both the impeccable source material entrants
have to work and the fact there's a £235,000 prize pool. Expect this will attract
entries from some pro studios given the $ but also the fame of being chosen as a
winner (and presumably your work being permanently associated with the track).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVD5khu3RnQ
https://www.pinkfloyd.com/tdsotm50/competition/

Early entries will be visible in the playlist at
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0SqtI95X6o0TeSHlAu-ouo0xlDN2cDsm, though I'd
expect most people will wait until closer to the deadline (Nov 30 2023). Marking that
on my calendar so I can remember to get extra popcorn.


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: DSOTM turned 50 and Pink Floyd's having an animation smackdown
Date: 7 Mar 2023 18:45:00
Message: <web.6407cb4f582a2d8a9b4924336e066e29@news.povray.org>
Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
>
> https://www.pinkfloyd.com/tdsotm50/competition/
>

Hmm. The rules are kind of vague, or 'mutually exclusive':

On the main page, it says
  "Animators can enter up to 10 videos, one per song on the album."

On the 'Terms and Conditions' page, it says
  "Animators can enter any number of entries for each song on the album."

Well, the band members ARE getting a bit old and crusty...


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: DSOTM turned 50 and Pink Floyd's having an animation smackdown
Date: 7 Mar 2023 19:15:00
Message: <web.6407d2eb582a2d8a1f9dae3025979125@news.povray.org>
"Kenneth" <kdw### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
> >
> > https://www.pinkfloyd.com/tdsotm50/competition/
> >
>
> Hmm. The rules are kind of vague, or 'mutually exclusive':
>
> On the main page, it says
>   "Animators can enter up to 10 videos, one per song on the album."
>
> On the 'Terms and Conditions' page, it says
>   "Animators can enter any number of entries for each song on the album."
>
> Well, the band members ARE getting a bit old and crusty...

https://www.awn.com/news/pink-floyd-animation-contest-stirs-controversy-exploiting-artists

https://www.loudersound.com/news/pink-floyd-are-being-accused-of-exploiting-artists-with-the-dark-side-of-the-moon-anim
ation-contest

https://www.punk-rocker.com/alternative/pink-floyd-are-being-accused-of-exploiting-artists-with-the-dark-side-of-the-mo
on-animation-contest/

etc.

I was also thinking that some of the other terms and conditions probably
indicate that they're not going to have a "The Wall" animation contest anytime
soon.


Also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9zh3lCE47A


There are some pretty good PF animations already on The Tube - some as old as 9
years ago.  Well worth a watch.


- BW


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: DSOTM turned 50 and Pink Floyd's having an animation smackdown
Date: 7 Mar 2023 20:10:53
Message: <6407e09d$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/03/2023 11:12, Bald Eagle wrote:
>
https://www.awn.com/news/pink-floyd-animation-contest-stirs-controversy-exploiting-artists

I'm not so sure whose idea the T&C's were. I won't jump down their throats
immediately, firstly because they're *Pink Floyd* and already have all the money and
fame that they could possibly want. They simply have no need to exploit artists for an
album they released *50 years ago* and which has been earning them royalties ever
since.

And, secondly, because I clearly remember them being whipped in the press for
literally months after the "We don't need no education" video was released.
Specifically the tabloids made it quite clear that "the children were never paid their
promised fee" (or words to that extent) without further comment as to *why*, with the
clear intent of leading the public on to blame the band for being shady (I was even
thinking that, something I regret).

The truth was that the headmaster of the school from which these kids came - who had
initially agreed to their participation - upon seeing the actual video was horrified
and refused to pass on the payment. But that doesn't make good press ... I was still
hearing echoes of this story even a decade later.

Due to this I will always give PF a bit of 'outrage leeway' for want of a better term
because of the way they were treated by the tabloids and the fact I was fooled the
first time (fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me ...)

That said, if "exploitation" is really what the rules in this competition were
intended to do then I suspect there's a few too many lawyers, hangers-on and
sticky-fingers third parties between the band and the public rather than the band
suddenly deciding they need some free(ish) art for a 50 yo album.

> Also:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9zh3lCE47A

Yeah, I've got a few bookmarked from years ago also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6bfyUplI0c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx87UVrrjCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_j48xzyaLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S8wllPmazM

-- Chris


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