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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Server failure - Povray Object Collection
Date: 2 Apr 2021 11:37:12
Message: <60673a28@news.povray.org>
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On 2021-04-01 9:05 PM (-4), Mike Horvath wrote:
> This part of the site is still down:
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> http://lib.povray.org/
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> I think someone moved all that stuff to GitHub anyway, but now I can't
> find it there. Was the repo deleted?
They are at https://github.com/LeForgeron/PovContributions
Jerome updates these manually, copying them from lib.povray.org.
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No idea if this is related to the utf-8 issues.
I was trying to answer someone else's question and came across this old post:
http://news.povray.org/povray.advanced-users/message/%3Cweb.57a001e45c93b6e65e7df57c0%40news.povray.org%3E/#%3Cweb.57a0
01e45c93b6e65e7df57c0%40news.povray.org%3E
I don't recall it looking like that when it was originally posted ....
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On 3/04/2021 04:54, Bald Eagle wrote:
> No idea if this is related to the utf-8 issues.
> I was trying to answer someone else's question and came across this old post:
>
>
http://news.povray.org/povray.advanced-users/message/%3Cweb.57a001e45c93b6e65e7df57c0%40news.povray.org%3E/#%3Cweb.57a0
> 01e45c93b6e65e7df57c0%40news.povray.org%3E
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> I don't recall it looking like that when it was originally posted ....
Interesting find. I've looked at the raw message on the NNTP server and
it does in fact have the entity encoding present; e.g.
x = & #961;cos(& #952;)sin(& #934;)
y = & #961;sin(& #952;)sin(& #934;)
z = & #961;cos(& #934;)
(Note I have spaced these out so they won't be classed as HTML entities
and re-encoded by the server. The original had no spaces). This is how
it would have appeared to NNTP users. The HTML entities are due to it
being posted via the web interface and were sucked into the NNTP side as-is.
When re-displaying them, PHP's htmlentities() function is (correctly)
escaping them as it assumes the input is not HTML formatted.
There is a way of telling htmlentities() to not re-encode existing
encoded sequences, and I thought that may have been a default value
change between the old and new PHP, but the docs don't say so, and
google's cache from 4 March (so before the crash) shows it with the
escaping also:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:YzzVZteLENYJ:news.povray.org/web.57a001e45c93b6e65e7df57c0%2540news.povray.org
so I suspect it's probably been like that for a while. That said,
though, it is an issue - either we ought to decode entity-encoded HTML
before putting it into the NNTP server, or we need to not double-encode
them when pulling out for display.
Given the data is already stored I can't change the first option, so for
now I've turned on the second one (existing HTML encoding is passed over).
I'll need to have a think about what implications this might have going
forward as I'm not sure it's the right fix (e.g. perhaps to only apply
it to posts that were originally made via the web interface).,
-- Chris
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On 2/04/2021 12:05, Mike Horvath wrote:
> This part of the site is still down:
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> http://lib.povray.org/
I've had a stab at updating the lib.povray.org PHP code but have found
it's going to be more work than I can allocate time to right now. I'll
look at it later.
-- Chris
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wiki.povray.org is now back online, as is bugs.povray.org (not used for
new bugs, I brought it back mainly for historical reasons).
The wiki had quite a few software changes, including a significant
re-factoring of a custom extension we had, so if you spot anything out
of place please LMK (in particular, the extensions for syntax
highlighting and LaTeX markup have changed).
-- Chris
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in news:6072f98d$1@news.povray.org Chris Cason wrote:
> wiki.povray.org is now back online
Thanks!
Ingo
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Op 11-4-2021 om 16:00 schreef ingo:
> in news:6072f98d$1@news.povray.org Chris Cason wrote:
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>> wiki.povray.org is now back online
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> Thanks!
>
> Ingo
>
and thanks too!
--
Thomas
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in news:604ec2df$1@news.povray.org Chris Cason wrote:
> we've only lost about one
> day of data
Over the years I've lost my newsgroup archive several times and currently
don't maintain it. Could it be made available as a (always up to date)
download in some way?
I'd like to try and search it with SQLite's text indexing features.
Ingo
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Since someone is working on the server, when searching on Google, the
wiki doesn't always show up in search results. For instance:
https://www.google.com/search?q=povray+average+pigment
Is there any way the server admin can demote the regular docs pages and
promote wiki pages in results?
Thanks.
Mike
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Am 15.03.2021 um 03:10 schrieb Chris Cason:
> The NNTP server is the first to be brought back online and at the time I
> post this is the only service running and publicly accessible. Posts
> made here will eventually migrate to the web view once that's sorted and
> back up; in the meantime only NNTP users will see this message.
Just trying to slowly get back up to speed, reading up on what's been
happening while I wasn't looking, and found that Thunderbird refused to
load a suspiciously large number of messages from back then, saying they
didn't exist anymore. Tried to repair the index, and now all messages
from 2019 seem to have been gone entirely (as well as a few months
before and after).
Could that be related to the March 9 server failure, or was there an
earlier separate problem that ate all the posts?
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