.... or is it just a temporary issue because of server changes?

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"Apache" <apa### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> .... or is it just a temporary issue because of server changes?

we brought it back online about 10 seconds before you posted this message :->

-- Chris

PS check out the new image digest.

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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:09:53 +1100, "Chris Cason"
<new### [at] deletethispovrayorg> wrote:
> PS check out the new image digest.

I'm not sure it is intentionall but image diggest lists images of off-topic
group. Link on it's post title leads to nowhere since rest of off-topic seems
not stored in web view.

ABX

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In article <ro1n30dt3n3j2fes3nm0t36mc0vecu0tqb@4ax.com> , ABX 
<abx### [at] abxartpl>  wrote:

> I'm not sure it is intentionall but image diggest lists images of off-topic
> group. Link on it's post title leads to nowhere since rest of off-topic seems
> not stored in web view.

This is just the case for a few old posts.  They will be gone really quickly
once more than 100 new images have been posted.

    Thorsten

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Chris Cason wrote:
...

> PS check out the new image digest.


I like it. Thank you !


- But why are only 2 images shown for 2003 ?

And is it no longer possible to reference a single
post within a thread ?


Tor Olav

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I can't seem to see it, yet...

"Chris Cason" <new### [at] deletethispovrayorg> wrote in message
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>
> "Apache" <apa### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:403b7d72$1@news.povray.org...
> > .... or is it just a temporary issue because of server changes?
>
> we brought it back online about 10 seconds before you posted this message
:->
>
> -- Chris
>
> PS check out the new image digest.
>
>
>

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Mike Raiford wrote:
> I can't seem to see it, yet...

If you are referring to the image digest,
then at the bottom of this page;

http://news.povray.org/groups/

- you'll find this link:

http://news.povray.org/digest/images


Tor Olav

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In article <403b8a24$1@news.povray.org> , Tor Olav Kristensen 
<tor_olav_kCURLYAhotmail.com>  wrote:

> - But why are only 2 images shown for 2003 ?

I don't understand.

> And is it no longer possible to reference a single
> post within a thread ?

There is, but you cannot currently get the link anywhere in the web
interface.  As always, just "http://news.povray.org/<message-id>" will do.
For example, your post can be reached via

<http://news.povray.org/%3C403b8a24%241%40news.povray.org%3E>

    Thorsten

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Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> In article <403b8a24$1@news.povray.org> , Tor Olav Kristensen 
> <tor_olav_kCURLYAhotmail.com>  wrote:
> 
> 
>>- But why are only 2 images shown for 2003 ?
> 
> 
> I don't understand.

I suspected that the image digest page would show the last 100
images posted to the povray.binaries.images group. So I browsed
down the list and saw that it went all back to 2002. That's a
long time back for that group, so I thought maybe some images
are missing. Then I found that only 2 images are shown for 2003.

Now I see that there are MANY more images missing, even for
2004, so I guess that this is only a startup problem (?)



>>And is it no longer possible to reference a single
>>post within a thread ?
> 
> 
> There is, but you cannot currently get the link anywhere in the web
> interface.  As always, just "http://news.povray.org/<message-id>" will do.
> For example, your post can be reached via
> 
> <http://news.povray.org/%3C403b8a24%241%40news.povray.org%3E>

Ok, I understand.

And I'm relieved to see that this kind of referencing still works:

http://news.povray.org/povray.general/nnnnn


Tor Olav

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In article <403bb57c$1@news.povray.org> , Tor Olav Kristensen 
<tor_olav_kCURLYAhotmail.com>  wrote:

> I suspected that the image digest page would show the last 100
> images posted to the povray.binaries.images group. So I browsed
> down the list and saw that it went all back to 2002. That's a
> long time back for that group, so I thought maybe some images
> are missing. Then I found that only 2 images are shown for 2003.

Ah, well, I kind of gave the answer to this question in my first post in
this thread.  It simply so happens that the last 100 images added are shown.
As there haven't been 100 new images posted since the web view was created,
it shows images from some group that was decoded last.

> Now I see that there are MANY more images missing, even for
> 2004, so I guess that this is only a startup problem (?)

Maybe you are confusing what the image digest does?  It will show the 100
images last posted, not show all images ever posted.

    Thorsten

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Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> In article <403bb57c$1@news.povray.org> , Tor Olav Kristensen 
> <tor_olav_kCURLYAhotmail.com>  wrote:
> 
> 
>>I suspected that the image digest page would show the last 100
>>images posted to the povray.binaries.images group. So I browsed
>>down the list and saw that it went all back to 2002. That's a
>>long time back for that group, so I thought maybe some images
>>are missing. Then I found that only 2 images are shown for 2003.
> 
> 
> Ah, well, I kind of gave the answer to this question in my first post in
> this thread.  It simply so happens that the last 100 images added are shown.
> As there haven't been 100 new images posted since the web view was created,
> it shows images from some group that was decoded last.
> 
> 
>>Now I see that there are MANY more images missing, even for
>>2004, so I guess that this is only a startup problem (?)
> 
> 
> Maybe you are confusing what the image digest does?  It will show the 100
> images last posted, not show all images ever posted.

I just did a (rough) count of the images posted to
povray.binaries.images so far _this_ year alone.

My result is about 140 images posted so far in 2004.


Tor Olav

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Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
...
>> As there haven't been 100 new images posted since the web view was 
>> created,
>> it shows images from some group that was decoded last.
...

Are you speaking about the new web view ?


Tor Olav

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oohhh.... me like!

and the image digest is a very good feature indeed!

regards,
Apache

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In article <403bbba8$1@news.povray.org> , Tor Olav Kristensen 
<tor_olav_kCURLYAhotmail.com>  wrote:

> Are you speaking about the new web view ?

Exactly.  For simplicity it shows images in order they were added to the web
news view (which has to be done per group, not per date, for old messages).
As there are only slightly more than three images posted per day on average,
it takes about one month until there are 100 new images in the digest.

    Thorsten

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In article <403bbea5@news.povray.org> , "Apache" 
<apa### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> and the image digest is a very good feature indeed!

Thanks!  Credit goes to Chris Cason for the idea, and to me for the
implementation :-)

    Thorsten

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:29:05 +0100, "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde>
wrote:
> me for the implementation :-)

What about making '100' in digests customizable ? For example using already
set value of "Messages per page" ?

ABX

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:29:05 +0100, "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde>
wrote:
> to me for the
> implementation

Could it be possible to maintain possibility of supporting oldstyle links to
posts? Old way was:

http://news.povray.org/m7fq3u41ctia9e6i3tbnlstn6ek739vpke%404ax.com

while now it is something like:

http://news.povray.org/povray.beta-test/thread/m7fq3u41ctia9e6i3tbnlstn6ek739vpke%404ax.com

but several posts on server contain links in old form. It would be a lot
easier if old form could be supported by some magic AI :-)

ABX

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:29:05 +0100, "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde>
wrote:
> Credit goes to Chris Cason for the idea, and to me for the
> implementation

BTW, where news.povray.org is located ????
Is it the same country as for aussie.org ?
Because when I have 17:49, news view shows 16:48 which means Poland has the
nearly the same timezone as Australia :-)

ABX

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In article <a9su30dpks1j0q9ijsl7n3qu12lkuj7j3b@4ax.com> , ABX 
<abx### [at] abxartpl>  wrote:

> Could it be possible to maintain possibility of supporting oldstyle links to
> posts? Old way was:
>
> http://news.povray.org/m7fq3u41ctia9e6i3tbnlstn6ek739vpke%404ax.com

The < and >, which are part of the message-id are missing. It should be
detecting such cases, but I guess is doesn't...

> while now it is something like:
>
>http://news.povray.org/povray.beta-test/thread/m7fq3u41ctia9e6i3tbnlstn6ek739vp
ke%404
> ax.com

You can still link to a message.


    Thorsten


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In article <cmsu301pqttboqmtq4q5k0g7ndm1akbred@4ax.com> , ABX 
<abx### [at] abxartpl>  wrote:

> BTW, where news.povray.org is located ????

Where it always has been.

> Is it the same country as for aussie.org ?

It is the same system.

> Because when I have 17:49, news view shows 16:48 which means Poland has the
> nearly the same timezone as Australia :-)

No, the server shows the time in GMT, as suggested by the server time in the
upper-right corner.

I am planning a feature to allow users to set their timezone and get times
in their local timespace instead.  Of course, the list of feature we plan
has been growing for years now, and it grows much faster than the number of
features we implement ;-)

    Thorsten

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On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:54:33 +0100, "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde>
wrote:
> No, the server shows the time in GMT, as suggested by the server time in the
> upper-right corner.

Ha! I need some rest... :-(

ABX

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:29:05 +0100, "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde>
wrote:
> to me for the implementation

Sorry for overloading you with reports but my nature of tester woke up :-)
Message <fiq7cughd3561tlt8kb7u14und8q6i0os5@4ax.com> seems not available in
webview while rest of its thread is present. It is:

From: Włodzimierz ABX Skiba <abx### [at] babilonorg>
Newsgroups: povray.binaries.animations
Subject: (WIP) Evolution animation
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:06:43 +0200
Message-ID: <fiq7cughd3561tlt8kb7u14und8q6i0os5@4ax.com>

I do not remember canceling this post while I remember it was available in old
news gate.

ABX

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In article <3bo0405gk1l08ou4nl8s76nig25f0bk4v4@4ax.com> , ABX 
<abx### [at] abxartpl>  wrote:

> Sorry for overloading you with reports but my nature of tester woke up :-)
> Message <fiq7cughd3561tlt8kb7u14und8q6i0os5@4ax.com> seems not available in
> webview while rest of its thread is present. It is:

There is no such message on this news server!  Please provide the *full*
header so I can tell you why it was removed and perhaps even when.

    Thorsten

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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 11:43:25 +0100, "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde>
wrote:
> > Sorry for overloading you with reports but my nature of tester woke up :-)
> > Message <fiq7cughd3561tlt8kb7u14und8q6i0os5@4ax.com> seems not available in
> > webview while rest of its thread is present. It is:
>
> There is no such message on this news server!

It is my animation you probably remember: kind of morhing between letters made
with isocsg. I referenced it a few times later so it not expired after week or
two and I had not reson to cancel it myself.

> Please provide the *full*
> header so I can tell you why it was removed and perhaps even when.

I tried to upload complete message in case you would need to upload it into
server but some private place have size limit set. So it is in raw unix format
in compete form at:
http://abx.art.pl/trivia/message.zip

ABX

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