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From: Tim Nikias v2 0
Subject: Searching a specific image...
Date: 6 Feb 2004 14:17:20
Message: <4023e840@news.povray.org>
Hi all!

I've bought myself a game of Go and would like to model a professional board
(with nice stones made of marble, wooden board etc) now. Someone recently
posted an image of a pyramid or a cube, filled with nice, marble-like media.
I've used the Search of the web-interface and have looked through the posts
residing here at home, but I'm unable to find it. Anyone got a pointer?

Aside of that, does anyone have experience with scripting/modelling some
media-driven subsurface effects, especially in the direction of marble? I do
have quiet some experience with media, but maybe there's a tried and tested
approach which would make my life easier. :-)

Regards,
Tim

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From: Bernard Hatt
Subject: Re: Searching a specific image...
Date: 6 Feb 2004 15:50:09
Message: <4023FE0B.1C275DE5@arkady.demon.co.uk>
"Tim Nikias v2.0" wrote:
> I've bought myself a game of Go and would like to model a professional board
> (with nice stones made of marble, wooden board etc) now. Someone recently

Professional stones are made from (clam) shell and slate, more everyday
stones are glass (and cheap sets are plastic). I don't think marble is
used for stones. (Example pictures:
http://www.mastersgames.com/images/orientalboard/clamshellandslate.jpg
http://ishigames.com/gostones.htm )

Regards,
Bernard


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From: Tim Nikias v2 0
Subject: Re: Searching a specific image...
Date: 6 Feb 2004 20:48:37
Message: <402443f5@news.povray.org>
> Professional stones are made from (clam) shell and slate, more everyday
> stones are glass (and cheap sets are plastic). I don't think marble is
> used for stones.

Heh, I guess someone misunderstood me here... :-)

If I'd be asking about actual and real stones, I would have posted to
off-topic. What I meant was modelling them in CSG, using spheres and
cylinders, filling them with media to achieve a marble-like texturing. We're
on POV-Ray newsgroups, and "general" generally applies to things related to
poving in general, or am I mistaken? :-)

Aside of that, thanks for the links, I might need them later anyway.

Regards,
Tim

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Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>
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From: Dan P
Subject: Re: Searching a specific image...
Date: 6 Feb 2004 21:06:01
Message: <40244809$1@news.povray.org>
"Tim Nikias v2.0" <tim.nikias (@) nolights.de> wrote in message
news:402443f5@news.povray.org...
> > Professional stones are made from (clam) shell and slate, more everyday
> > stones are glass (and cheap sets are plastic). I don't think marble is
> > used for stones.
>
> Heh, I guess someone misunderstood me here... :-)
>
> If I'd be asking about actual and real stones, I would have posted to
> off-topic. What I meant was modelling them in CSG, using spheres and
> cylinders, filling them with media to achieve a marble-like texturing.
We're
> on POV-Ray newsgroups, and "general" generally applies to things related
to
> poving in general, or am I mistaken? :-)


Here's a quick one-off that might help you in the right direction:


#include "colors.inc"


light_source
{
 <-20, 100, -100>
 color White
}


light_source
{
 <20, 100, 100>
 color rgb <0.2, 0.3, 0.4>
 shadowless
}


camera
{
 location <0, 3, -6>
 look_at <0, 0, 0>
}


#declare piece =
sphere
{
 <0, 0, 0>, 1
 scale <1, 0.4, 1>
}


#declare white_piece =
object
{
 piece

 pigment
 {
  wrinkles

  color_map
  {
   [0, rgbf <0.7, 0.7, 0.7, 0.1> ]
   [1, rgbf <1, 1, 1, 0.1> ]
  }

  scale <020, 0.2, 0.2>
 }

 finish
 {
   specular 0.6
   reflection 0.1
 }
}




#declare black_piece =
object
{
 piece

 pigment
 {
  color rgb <0.24, 0.24, 0.24>
 }

 normal
 {
  wrinkles
  scale <0.4, 0.05, 0.4>
 }

 finish
 {
   specular 0.2
   reflection 0
 }
}




plane
{
 y, 0

 pigment
 {
  checker rgb <0.6, 0.5, 0.4> rgb <0.5, 0.4, 0.3>
  scale <2.5, 1, 2.5>
 }

 finish
 {
  specular 0.5
 }
}


object { white_piece rotate 30*y }
object { white_piece rotate 2*y translate 2.5*x }
object { black_piece translate -2.5*z }


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Searching a specific image...
Date: 6 Feb 2004 21:08:39
Message: <402448a7@news.povray.org>

news:4023e840@news.povray.org...
> Hi all!
>
> I've bought myself a game of Go and would like to model a professional
board
> (with nice stones made of marble, wooden board etc) now. Someone recently
> posted an image of a pyramid or a cube, filled with nice, marble-like
media.
> I've used the Search of the web-interface and have looked through the
posts
> residing here at home, but I'm unable to find it. Anyone got a pointer?

This looks like Samuel Benge's image "Subsurface Scattering: A Tuesday
Mystery (21kb jpeg)" from November 26, 2003.

G.


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From: Tim Nikias v2 0
Subject: Re: Searching a specific image...
Date: 6 Feb 2004 21:19:21
Message: <40244b29@news.povray.org>
> This looks like Samuel Benge's image "Subsurface Scattering: A Tuesday
> Mystery (21kb jpeg)" from November 26, 2003.

Nope, not it. I think it was during the course of all that subsurface
scattering hype, that someone posted it. Looked terrific, very much like
marble, with lots of white/gray, some red veines (is veines spelled
correctly?).


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"Tim Nikias v2.0"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>
Email: tim.nikias (@) nolights.de


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From: Tim Nikias v2 0
Subject: Re: Searching a specific image...
Date: 6 Feb 2004 21:25:02
Message: <40244c7e@news.povray.org>
> Here's a quick one-off that might help you in the right direction:
...SNIP...

Hi there, Daniel.

Thanks for the effort, but I'm actually already a rather experienced Pover
(you can see most of my images on my website, haven't been active here
lately, which may be why you've assumed me to be a newbie).

I was searching for the author of that specific image mainly because his
marble-texture, made with subsurface/media scattering, was that sort of
"awesome Rolex" type of image, and I wanted to get a hold of the codes how
he did it. I've done quiet some experimenting with media (ever tried to
convert the stacked-planes-technique to a media statement? It's fun :-) so I
was hoping for some general approach idea. Just to save the time for
experiments.

Regards,
Tim

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"Tim Nikias v2.0"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>
Email: tim.nikias (@) nolights.de


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From: Dan P
Subject: Re: Searching a specific image...
Date: 6 Feb 2004 22:02:31
Message: <40245547$1@news.povray.org>
"Tim Nikias v2.0" <tim.nikias (@) nolights.de> wrote in message
news:40244c7e@news.povray.org...
> > Here's a quick one-off that might help you in the right direction:
> ...SNIP...
>
> Hi there, Daniel.
>
> Thanks for the effort, but I'm actually already a rather experienced Pover
> (you can see most of my images on my website, haven't been active here
> lately, which may be why you've assumed me to be a newbie).

I'm sorry -- I'm new to this board and don't know all the people yet. Well,
it gave me an excuse to put together a quick scene anyway :-)_


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From: Bernard Hatt
Subject: Re: Searching a specific image...
Date: 7 Feb 2004 01:33:23
Message: <402486B4.384A9C8E@arkady.demon.co.uk>
"Tim Nikias v2.0" wrote:
> 
> > Professional stones are made from (clam) shell and slate, more everyday
> > stones are glass (and cheap sets are plastic). I don't think marble is
> > used for stones.
> 
> Heh, I guess someone misunderstood me here... :-)

I was trying to clear up the confusion, were you asking for POV images
that would look like real professional stones (shell and slate), or
POV images that would look like marble stones (which are not used in
real life)?

The photo links were to highlight the differences between marble and
shell which have different colouring/textures etc.

Regards,

Bernard (7k)


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From: Severi Salminen
Subject: Re: Searching a specific image...
Date: 7 Feb 2004 04:28:36
Message: <4024afc4$1@news.povray.org>
Tim Nikias v2.0 wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> I've bought myself a game of Go and would like to model a professional board
> (with nice stones made of marble, wooden board etc) now. Someone recently
> posted an image of a pyramid or a cube, filled with nice, marble-like media.
> I've used the Search of the web-interface and have looked through the posts
> residing here at home, but I'm unable to find it. Anyone got a pointer?

I FOUND IT!!!!

It was in p.b.a, titled "more sub-surface scattering" on 5.12.2003 by Tek. 
Very beautiful interior.

Severi "Sherlock" Salminen


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