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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:18:18 -0500, Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aol com> wrote:
>Have a look at this latest one please, anyone who is there in the UK and
>surrounding region (a few minutes from time of this message post).
OK, now the spots in Finland are too far north, and the odd bloke from
halfway between Tallinn and Helsinki has decided to live in the latter :-)
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Antti Arola
aar### [at] lutfi
ICQ: 18685389
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At least everybody's dry now...
Margus
Antti Arola wrote:
>
> On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:18:18 -0500, Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> >Have a look at this latest one please, anyone who is there in the UK and
> >surrounding region (a few minutes from time of this message post).
>
> OK, now the spots in Finland are too far north, and the odd bloke from
> halfway between Tallinn and Helsinki has decided to live in the latter :-)
>
> --
> Antti Arola
> aar### [at] lutfi
> ICQ: 18685389
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Yeah, it's not perfect to be sure. At least I don't think so. Like we're
all the ones messed up instead or something? No, I'd have to say these
images never map exactly right. Whether it be POV-Ray at fault or the
image used isn't correct is anyones guess. The previous image I had used
was definately off, I had to actually add in a slice of longitude
(couple degrees or more) and maybe even a bit to the North or South pole
but I don't remember. The problem comes when trying to adjust for all
points on the globe you see. Were it a simple singular direction (scale)
it wouldn't be so tough; but if even a rescaling, or resizing rather, of
both latitude and longitude fails it's just never going to be right.
Well, never say never.
Anyhow so far it looks as if were I to move anything one way a lot of
points shift badly the other, and likewise for the other directions.
Could be a mapping type of problem but I don't see it that way yet.
Thanks for speaking up regardless, Antti A.
Antti Arola wrote:
>
> On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:18:18 -0500, Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> >Have a look at this latest one please, anyone who is there in the UK and
> >surrounding region (a few minutes from time of this message post).
>
> OK, now the spots in Finland are too far north, and the odd bloke from
> halfway between Tallinn and Helsinki has decided to live in the latter :-)
>
> --
> Antti Arola
> aar### [at] lutfi
> ICQ: 18685389
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Agreed, MK should go into Room 101, I worked there for six weeks
and when I left vowed never to return.
Matthew Bennett wrote:
>
> Cliff Bowman <who### [at] spamcitycom> wrote in message
> news:37766ca4.7134056@news.povray.org...
> > On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 01:03:25 -0500, Bob <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> > > Anyhow, all else appears to be aligning fairly well,
> > >but England? It's like a terrible earthquake has shifted it toward the
> continent. I
> > >haven't a good fix for this yet, I hate to think the coordinate numbers
> need a
> > >subtraction by more than a degree and even worse the prospect of cut &
> pasting Great
> > >Britain. Not a thing I like to do, playing god.
> >
> >
> > If you do have to resort to moving the UK - could you move us somewhat
> > south? I know the weather's pretty good here at the moment, but we
> > could do with a warmer average <g>
>
> Yeah, and airbrush out any clouds.
> In fact, you could airbrush out Milton Keynes while you're at it :P
>
> /\/\/\//
--
Cheers
Steve
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Bob
There's a question mark next to my name for some reason,
(probably why I'm in the sea), (Wigan North West England).
Bob Hughes wrote:
>
> You will have email from me soon. But yes, I've noticed aligment
> troubles from the beginning, it comes down to the image_map used mostly,
> along with possible inaccuracies of lat/lon coordinate submissions. Some
> are just city or town names, the East West or South North
> positive/negative is most important when sent in. Luckily everyone
> states their placename as well, usually.
>
> http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/uk.htm
>
> Have a look at this latest one please, anyone who is there in the UK and
> surrounding region (a few minutes from time of this message post).
>
> Bob
>
> Scott Hill wrote:
> >
> > Bob <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message news:3772E7C3.74469EE9@aol.com...
> > > http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/povwrldjpg.htm
> > >
> >
> > I think you ought to check on the alignment of the image map you're
> > using.
> >
> > At first I thought I'd been missed, checked you list, and sure enough,
> > I'm on there.
> > But where ? Let me tell you none of the spots on the UK are over
> > Cambridge (where I am).
> > Then I noticed those two spots that seem to be floating in the sea.
> >
> > Could it be that you're image map is shifted a couple of degrees to the
> > east ? (or that the spots are shifted a couple of degrees west). That would
> > explain the spots off the west coasts of Wales & Ireland and correcting it
> > would put one of the spots roughly over Cambridge !
> >
> > --
> > Scott Hill : sco### [at] cyberlifecouk
> > Software Engineer (and all round nice guy)
> > Author of Pandora's Box : Watch this space.
> > Work homepage : http://www.cyberlife.co.uk
> >
> > "We will decide what the news is. The news is what we tell you it is." - The
> > Fox TV network.
>
> --
> omniVERSE: beyond the universe
> http://members.aol.com/inversez/homepage.htm
> mailto://inversez@aol.com?Subject=PoV-News
--
Cheers
Steve
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I finally have Outlook Express 5 figured out enough to post replies so
I'm posting here even though I have sent email already to you Steve.
Just so people know I am still here :)
For the curious, Steve had sent me his coordinates as numbers without
decimal places in the degree fields, no minutes. That was the
confusion. Not that it will correct anything probably because I think
I had guessed the correct numbers anyway from what he gave me.
Bob
Steve <sjl### [at] ndirectcouk> wrote in message
news:37AB5FE7.25F72A53@ndirect.co.uk...
> Bob
>
> There's a question mark next to my name for some reason,
> (probably why I'm in the sea), (Wigan North West England).
>
> Bob Hughes wrote:
> >
> > You will have email from me soon. But yes, I've noticed aligment
> > troubles from the beginning, it comes down to the image_map used
mostly,
> > along with possible inaccuracies of lat/lon coordinate
submissions. Some
> > are just city or town names, the East West or South North
> > positive/negative is most important when sent in. Luckily everyone
> > states their placename as well, usually.
> >
> > http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/uk.htm
> >
> > Have a look at this latest one please, anyone who is there in the
UK and
> > surrounding region (a few minutes from time of this message post).
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Scott Hill wrote:
> > >
> > > Bob <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:3772E7C3.74469EE9@aol.com...
> > > > http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/povwrldjpg.htm
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think you ought to check on the alignment of the image map
you're
> > > using.
> > >
> > > At first I thought I'd been missed, checked you list, and
sure enough,
> > > I'm on there.
> > > But where ? Let me tell you none of the spots on the UK are
over
> > > Cambridge (where I am).
> > > Then I noticed those two spots that seem to be floating in
the sea.
> > >
> > > Could it be that you're image map is shifted a couple of
degrees to the
> > > east ? (or that the spots are shifted a couple of degrees west).
That would
> > > explain the spots off the west coasts of Wales & Ireland and
correcting it
> > > would put one of the spots roughly over Cambridge !
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott Hill : sco### [at] cyberlifecouk
> > > Software Engineer (and all round nice guy)
> > > Author of Pandora's Box : Watch this space.
> > > Work homepage : http://www.cyberlife.co.uk
> > >
> > > "We will decide what the news is. The news is what we tell you
it is." - The
> > > Fox TV network.
> >
> > --
> > omniVERSE: beyond the universe
> > http://members.aol.com/inversez/homepage.htm
> > mailto://inversez@aol.com?Subject=PoV-News
>
> --
> Cheers
> Steve
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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> %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error reading file mailto:sjl### [at] ndirectcouk
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Bob I'll check it out and get back to you soon. Sorry to see
you've turned to MS why? Netscape does it all, or even agent.
Bob Hughes wrote:
>
> I finally have Outlook Express 5 figured out enough to post replies so
> I'm posting here even though I have sent email already to you Steve.
> Just so people know I am still here :)
> For the curious, Steve had sent me his coordinates as numbers without
> decimal places in the degree fields, no minutes. That was the
> confusion. Not that it will correct anything probably because I think
> I had guessed the correct numbers anyway from what he gave me.
>
> Bob
>
> Steve <sjl### [at] ndirectcouk> wrote in message
> news:37AB5FE7.25F72A53@ndirect.co.uk...
> > Bob
> >
> > There's a question mark next to my name for some reason,
> > (probably why I'm in the sea), (Wigan North West England).
> >
> > Bob Hughes wrote:
> > >
> > > You will have email from me soon. But yes, I've noticed aligment
> > > troubles from the beginning, it comes down to the image_map used
> mostly,
> > > along with possible inaccuracies of lat/lon coordinate
> submissions. Some
> > > are just city or town names, the East West or South North
> > > positive/negative is most important when sent in. Luckily everyone
> > > states their placename as well, usually.
> > >
> > > http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/uk.htm
> > >
> > > Have a look at this latest one please, anyone who is there in the
> UK and
> > > surrounding region (a few minutes from time of this message post).
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > Scott Hill wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bob <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> news:3772E7C3.74469EE9@aol.com...
> > > > > http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/povwrldjpg.htm
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think you ought to check on the alignment of the image map
> you're
> > > > using.
> > > >
> > > > At first I thought I'd been missed, checked you list, and
> sure enough,
> > > > I'm on there.
> > > > But where ? Let me tell you none of the spots on the UK are
> over
> > > > Cambridge (where I am).
> > > > Then I noticed those two spots that seem to be floating in
> the sea.
> > > >
> > > > Could it be that you're image map is shifted a couple of
> degrees to the
> > > > east ? (or that the spots are shifted a couple of degrees west).
> That would
> > > > explain the spots off the west coasts of Wales & Ireland and
> correcting it
> > > > would put one of the spots roughly over Cambridge !
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Scott Hill : sco### [at] cyberlifecouk
> > > > Software Engineer (and all round nice guy)
> > > > Author of Pandora's Box : Watch this space.
> > > > Work homepage : http://www.cyberlife.co.uk
> > > >
> > > > "We will decide what the news is. The news is what we tell you
> it is." - The
> > > > Fox TV network.
> > >
> > > --
> > > omniVERSE: beyond the universe
> > > http://members.aol.com/inversez/homepage.htm
> > > mailto://inversez@aol.com?Subject=PoV-News
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Steve
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------
> > %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error reading file mailto:sjl### [at] ndirectcouk
--
Cheers
Steve
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Odd IE tendancies I suppose ;)
Netscape was fine actually, I just wanted to try to update this Win
system with the IE5 stuff and gave Outlook a whirl. It really does
have a few good points and does seem a bit faster as per
advertisement.
Bob
Steve <sjl### [at] ndirectcouk> wrote in message
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> Bob I'll check it out and get back to you soon. Sorry to see
> you've turned to MS why? Netscape does it all, or even agent.
>
> Bob Hughes wrote:
> >
> > I finally have Outlook Express 5 figured out enough to post
replies so
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Bob Hughes wrote:
>
> Odd IE tendancies I suppose ;)
> Netscape was fine actually, I just wanted to try to update this Win
> system with the IE5 stuff and gave Outlook a whirl. It really does
> have a few good points and does seem a bit faster as per
> advertisement.
>
> Bob
Faster in what regard ?
--
Ken Tyler
See my 700+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html
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Ken wrote:
> Bob Hughes wrote:
> >
> > Odd IE tendancies I suppose ;)
> > Netscape was fine actually, I just wanted to try to update this Win
> > system with the IE5 stuff and gave Outlook a whirl. It really does
> > have a few good points and does seem a bit faster as per
> > advertisement.
> >
> > Bob
>
> Faster in what regard ?
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
>
> See my 700+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html
Um, maybe faster in corrupting your data? Or faster since it ignores
most of the RFC's and standards and just does what the MS engineers just
bothered checking for? Or faster as it does not even bother formatting
text properly for non-HTML and non-RTF posts? Or faster at spreading
macro viruses and trojans as it 'hides all the messy details from
users'? Or faster at mangling downloads as it completely ignores
MIME-types and does what the HTTP specs says explicitly NOT to do (RFC
1945 section 7.2.1)...
--
"My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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Well now, that was a list of negatives ;)
Seems quicker to retrieve a binary (image, zip, etc) than what
Netscape did. I had a usual transfer rate of 100 to a few hundred
bytes while on Netscape.
Outlook Express 5 isn't showing me a byte rate (not sure it can) but
overall it is a comprehensive enough program for me, moreso than
Netscape 4.61 was anyhow.
P.S. just the signature part alone is better, it will not place into
replies if you don't want.
Bob
Jon A. Cruz <jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote in message
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> Ken wrote:
>
> > Bob Hughes wrote:
> > >
> > > Odd IE tendancies I suppose ;)
> > > Netscape was fine actually, I just wanted to try to update this
Win
> > > system with the IE5 stuff and gave Outlook a whirl. It really
does
> > > have a few good points and does seem a bit faster as per
> > > advertisement.
> > >
> > > Bob
> >
> > Faster in what regard ?
> >
> > --
> > Ken Tyler
> >
> > See my 700+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
> > http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html
>
> Um, maybe faster in corrupting your data? Or faster since it ignores
> most of the RFC's and standards and just does what the MS engineers
just
> bothered checking for? Or faster as it does not even bother
formatting
> text properly for non-HTML and non-RTF posts? Or faster at spreading
> macro viruses and trojans as it 'hides all the messy details from
> users'? Or faster at mangling downloads as it completely ignores
> MIME-types and does what the HTTP specs says explicitly NOT to do
(RFC
> 1945 section 7.2.1)...
>
> --
> "My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
> But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
>
>
>
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Bob Hughes wrote:
> P.S. just the signature part alone is better, it will not place into
> replies if you don't want.
>
> Bob
But that part is optinal anyway. If you don't choose a sig file then no sig
is attached. I got tired of signing my name and copying my link all of the
time so I find the automatic insertion a very handy feature.
--
Ken Tyler
See my 700+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html
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O.T. I go: Alas, I meant that the signature may continue to go into
original message posts but not into any replies to messages if you
choose that to be the case.
You may already have noticed I am doing that now (or noticed not)
because omniVERSE is stated in my New Message posts, for these replies
I just type "Bob" myself ;)
Bob
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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>
>
> Bob Hughes wrote:
>
> > P.S. just the signature part alone is better, it will not place
into
> > replies if you don't want.
> >
> > Bob
>
> But that part is optinal anyway. If you don't choose a sig file then
no sig
> is attached. I got tired of signing my name and copying my link all
of the
> time so I find the automatic insertion a very handy feature.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
>
> See my 700+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html
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To put this thread back on topic, and in case anyone hasn't looked for
a while or newcomers want to apply to have their location mapped, the
most recent incarnation of the world of pov-ray users is still at:
http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/povwrldjpg.htm (zero in
0rigin)
And to get to the latest list of "inhabitants" click on the title
there. To get to the submission page click on a globe anywhere but
North America, Europe or Australia regions. To see my beyond humble
homepage try my name/date, nothing to lose but your valuable time.
P.S. if you don't see 99.64 there, press Reload or refresh for your
browser. Thankyou again all.
Bob
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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>
>
> Bob Hughes wrote:
>
> > P.S. just the signature part alone is better, it will not place
into
> > replies if you don't want.
> >
> > Bob
>
> But that part is optinal anyway. If you don't choose a sig file then
no sig
> is attached. I got tired of signing my name and copying my link all
of the
> time so I find the automatic insertion a very handy feature.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
>
> See my 700+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html
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