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From: And
Subject: Re: Wood design program test version
Date: 28 Jun 2022 09:55:00
Message: <web.62bb06d94b788a98d7f62f03aa81652d@news.povray.org>
"..._angular_distortion_(0, 1, 2).inc"
connects the angular shape. The more characteristic heights you set, the more
files are produced.
Then
"..._angular_shape_factor.inc"
assemble them.

"..._radial_speed".

The files above is no need to change, if you have thoughts about them, you
should tell me. Because using program to generate these data is more convenient
than DIY.



"..._time_and_ring"
This file composite the radial speed, angular shape distortion,(and knot shape
distortion in the future) to a single function "time_function(x,y,z)", it input
position, output 'age at that position', but in fact :P, its output is zero at
the tree base <0,0,0>, and get bigger when you keep away from the (tree)center.
The Unit is year.

Here it produce two additional function 'pinstripes' and 'wood band', these two
functions output value 0~1, 0 represent early-wood, 1 represent late-wood(dark
part).


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From: And
Subject: Re: Wood design program test version
Date: 28 Jun 2022 10:15:00
Message: <web.62bb0be14b788a98d7f62f03aa81652d@news.povray.org>
"tree_colormap_temp_file.inc" is the place I composite (all) patterns, ... to
the output pigment.
I directly copy this file from ...which made by myself.
Output pigment is named 'diffuse_pigment'. It has rgb colors. In the future it
is necessary to produce grayscale output for the roughness map, normal map...,
too.

"..._bumps_pattern_detail.inc" prepares the thin pattern, fiber, ... for the
"tree_colormap_temp_file.inc"

You can produce more thin pattern here, using the macro I write
generate_thin_circled_pattern_f_input_t_theta_h(
....
), I only finish this one(in fact two or three, but they appointed by this one)
for generate thin pattern.

You can use any function produced by yourself.

You can change these files above.


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From: And
Subject: Re: Wood design program test version
Date: 28 Jun 2022 10:15:00
Message: <web.62bb0cd04b788a98d7f62f03aa81652d@news.povray.org>
"Mr" <m******r******at_hotmail_dot_fr> wrote:
> this looks like it's going to be a fun tool !

Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Thank you very much indeed. I am truly impressed. As Maurice said: this
> is going to be fun to play with. I shall let you know my thoughts while
> testing this.
>
> --
> Thomas


Thanks two... 'fun' . ..


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From: And
Subject: Re: Wood design program test version
Date: 1 Jul 2022 08:30:00
Message: <web.62bee7694b788a98f50b25a7aa81652d@news.povray.org>
The 'macro' which I should introduce is
generate_thin_circled_pattern_f_input_t_theta_h(
first_time, last_time, d_boundary_time0, d_boundary_time1, t_radial_bump_size,
time_node_amount,
bump_size_along_theta, theta_pos_random_factor,
min_h, max_h, d_boundary_h0, d_boundary_h1,
seed_m,
r_vs_t, h_vs_r_ratio
)

It is located at bump_pattern_base_function_macros.inc

The goal of it is to generate thin pattern, just like f_bumps(x,y,z).
But it is on the different coordinate system(I say that 'tree log coordinate' in
this case), this macro just generate an output_f = function(time, theta, h) {
....
}



It generate bumps along theta by generating an position array[seg_amount] during
0~2*pi, it consult the input 'bump_size_along_theta' to determine the
seg_amount, the shorter the bump size, the larger the seg_amount.

'theta_pos_random_factor' controls the randomize of the positions. When it is
zero, the position is equally spaced on theta, when it is 1, the position has
the max randomize.


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From: And
Subject: Re: Wood design program test version
Date: 1 Jul 2022 08:55:00
Message: <web.62beed364b788a98f50b25a7aa81652d@news.povray.org>
'first_time', 'last_time', 'd_boundary_time0', 'd_boundary_time1' define the
boundaries of the pattern on 'time value', you can regarded it as the radial
direct pattern.

't_radial_bump_size' as in attachment picture, unit is year.

'time_node_amount' is because, if it generate only one continuous pattern on
theta, the 'bump_size_along_theta' cannot maintain, the bump_size will get
smaller at the smaller radius. So I generate several patterns. On different
radius, I apply different seg_amount to theta position array[seg_amount]
It is the origin of it needing 'time_node_amount' to determine the amount of
such pattern on different radius. You can set it 3~5 it should sufficient.


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From: And
Subject: Re: Wood design program test version
Date: 1 Jul 2022 09:15:00
Message: <web.62bef1f04b788a98f50b25a7aa81652d@news.povray.org>
Such design is assumed the ideal situation. In fact, I'm planning to revise it.

It is obvious imperfect along the h-direct, When I ..'veneer' it, it shows no
change pattern (along theta).


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From: And
Subject: Re: Wood design program test version
Date: 3 Jul 2022 03:35:00
Message: <web.62c145db4b788a98f10dbcecaa81652d@news.povray.org>
The Java version which I used is Java SE 8 (1.8.0_91) currently. So the version
above it should be acceptable.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Wood design program test version
Date: 4 Jul 2022 08:06:39
Message: <62c2d7cf$1@news.povray.org>
Op 27-6-2022 om 17:56 schreef And:
> First release.

Thanks And!

Test version, so I shall not (yet) comment on the visual aspects and so on.

However, one very important thing is the way decimals are written to the 
example include files. My system uses 'dots' (example: 3.9432) instead 
of 'commas' (example: 3,9432) like is done by your app. I guess that 
some countries/systems do so standard, but not all. My system uses 
'dots'. If this is an issue for better international use, could you make 
this an initial choice to make by the user? Or is there another way to 
change this easily?

-- 
Thomas


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From: And
Subject: Re: Wood design program test version
Date: 4 Jul 2022 12:30:00
Message: <web.62c314a84b788a98f10dbcecaa81652d@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Op 27-6-2022 om 17:56 schreef And:
> > First release.
>
> Thanks And!
>
> Test version, so I shall not (yet) comment on the visual aspects and so on.
>

Thanks for understanding.


> However, one very important thing is the way decimals are written to the
> example include files. My system uses 'dots' (example: 3.9432) instead
> of 'commas' (example: 3,9432) like is done by your app. I guess that
> some countries/systems do so standard, but not all.

I use 'meter' as the length unit, so that output result is caused by my habit.
The dots are decimal points.
I want to ask a question, a number contain commas can be read as 'one' number
correct by POV-Ray?
Can 3,9432 be a number?

> If this is an issue for better international use, could you make
> this an initial choice to make by the user? Or is there another way to
> change this easily?
>
> --
> Thomas

Currently You might need use 'scale' to the pigment to convert it to your
customary unit. I will add a list(menu) to select unit on the "Basic
Profile"(first page) in the future version. But I need time to research this.


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From: And
Subject: Re: Wood design program test version
Date: 4 Jul 2022 12:50:00
Message: <web.62c3191f4b788a98f10dbcecaa81652d@news.povray.org>
Excuse me, I upload the same version but compress to the .zip


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