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From: Fabien HENON
Subject: light source & camera CHM help 496 Kb
Date: 8 Dec 2000 09:05:16
Message: <3A30DF45.407DFB8A@club-internet.fr>
Here a version of POV-help compiled in chm format including light and
camera with a few enhancements.
It is designed to be viewed at 1024 x 768.
At 800 x 600, the layout is sopmewhat destroyed.

Remarks and comments are warmly welcomed.

Fabien.


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From: Sander
Subject: Re: light source & camera CHM help 496 Kb
Date: 8 Dec 2000 16:56:38
Message: <MPG.149b737331c8b5819896ba@news.povray.org>
in povray.binaries.tutorials, Fabien HENON says...
> Here a version of POV-help compiled in chm format including light and
> camera with a few enhancements.
> It is designed to be viewed at 1024 x 768.
> At 800 x 600, the layout is sopmewhat destroyed.
> 
> Remarks and comments are warmly welcomed.
> 
> Fabien.

Looks good! I have learned something about lights just now!!

Then I am also intrigued by the HH-workshop; I have used the HCW program 
a little and I was baffled by the spaghetti-like set of pages one has to 
make for even a small help file. After some time I completely lost the 
overview, but that may be just me. Now, looking for the HHW files, I 
found them to be very expensive. What do you use??
-- 
Regards,  Sander


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From: Fabien HENON
Subject: Re: light source & camera CHM help 496 Kb
Date: 9 Dec 2000 16:41:20
Message: <3A32A7F3.9F29B6B4@club-internet.fr>
Thanks for the remark.
For the chm file, I merely downloaded HTML Help Workshop from the
Microsoft
site to compile it.
The pages are first built with Netscape HTML editor (Composer).
Once the pages are finished, they have to be indexed and compiled with
HHW.
It is a great tool.
Yet I had to learn with errors and trials ( it reminds me of POV).
I still have to find how to use the 'search' tab properly. It might be
useful.

You mentionned HCW. Is it another compiler? I'd like to know about
Microsoft
competitors if there are any.

As the file is getting larger and larger, I think I'll have to upload
the file to my new site. The download speed might improve.


Cheers

Fabien




> in povray.binaries.tutorials, Fabien HENON says...
> > Here a version of POV-help compiled in chm format including light and
> > camera with a few enhancements.
> > It is designed to be viewed at 1024 x 768.
> > At 800 x 600, the layout is sopmewhat destroyed.
> >
> > Remarks and comments are warmly welcomed.
> >
> > Fabien.
>
> Looks good! I have learned something about lights just now!!
>
> Then I am also intrigued by the HH-workshop; I have used the HCW program
> a little and I was baffled by the spaghetti-like set of pages one has to
> make for even a small help file. After some time I completely lost the
> overview, but that may be just me. Now, looking for the HHW files, I
> found them to be very expensive. What do you use??
> --
> Regards,  Sander


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From: Bob H 
Subject: Re: light source & camera CHM help 496 Kb
Date: 9 Dec 2000 19:04:57
Message: <3a32c8a9@news.povray.org>
"Fabien HENON" <ffj### [at] club-internetfr> wrote in message
news:3A30DF45.407DFB8A@club-internet.fr...
> Here a version of POV-help compiled in chm format including light and
> camera with a few enhancements.
> It is designed to be viewed at 1024 x 768.
> At 800 x 600, the layout is sopmewhat destroyed.

First of all it's great work, concise and easy to follow.  I didn't proof read
but I scanned over the segments and it all looked good to me, with the one
exception that your white light bulb is yellow which might confuse someone.
That's in the light_source segment on "color".  The cyan light bulb is okay but
then comparing that with the white light bulb (which shows as yellow as I said)
then you expect a yellowish light source.  Reading of course clears that up
but... an incorrectness I'd say.
Only other thing that caught my attention was the "tightness" article, but I
think you are showing as much as possible at once.  The radius 18 falloff 18
along with tightness 100.  I think it works okay, but I stopped to wonder if
someone without any knowledge of it would stumble over that.  It's probably
just because it's all old stuff to me and yet I still have to think as I type
those keywords in, you know, like my thinking getting in the way.
I'm anticipating seeing how this tutorial grows.

Oh, one other thing.  When I first ran these two chm files they started too
small for me, about a 250x250 square window so I maximized them.  After closing
and opening again they came up as almost full screen (1152x864 res. here) but
not maximized.  You said 1024x768 so that made me think they were supposed to
open at that res.  What I'm seeing now is really that they are maximized minus
the window borders.  Just the first ever run time was small.

Bob H.


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From: Fabien HENON
Subject: Re: light source & camera CHM help 496 Kb
Date: 11 Dec 2000 18:08:11
Message: <3A355F8F.8FE15821@club-internet.fr>


> "Fabien HENON" <ffj### [at] club-internetfr> wrote in message
> news:3A30DF45.407DFB8A@club-internet.fr...
> > Here a version of POV-help compiled in chm format including light and
> > camera with a few enhancements.
> > It is designed to be viewed at 1024 x 768.
> > At 800 x 600, the layout is sopmewhat destroyed.
>
> First of all it's great work, concise and easy to follow.

Thanks

> I didn't proof read
> but I scanned over the segments and it all looked good to me, with the one
> exception that your white light bulb is yellow which might confuse someone.
> That's in the light_source segment on "color".  The cyan light bulb is okay but
> then comparing that with the white light bulb (which shows as yellow as I said)
> then you expect a yellowish light source.  Reading of course clears that up
> but... an incorrectness I'd say.

Yes that's true, I just wanted to make a normal light bulb which yellow. But I'll
correct that.

>
> Only other thing that caught my attention was the "tightness" article, but I
> think you are showing as much as possible at once.  The radius 18 falloff 18
> along with tightness 100.  I think it works okay, but I stopped to wonder if
> someone without any knowledge of it would stumble over that.  It's probably
> just because it's all old stuff to me and yet I still have to think as I type
> those keywords in, you know, like my thinking getting in the way.
> I'm anticipating seeing how this tutorial grows.

I am going to deal with objects now. It's going to be a bit tougher (or at least
longer)

>
>
> Oh, one other thing.  When I first ran these two chm files they started too
> small for me, about a 250x250 square window so I maximized them.  After closing
> and opening again they came up as almost full screen (1152x864 res. here) but
> not maximized.  You said 1024x768 so that made me think they were supposed to
> open at that res.  What I'm seeing now is really that they are maximized minus
> the window borders.  Just the first ever run time was small.

I am going to make it appear maximized on opening. I found the right flag for that.

>
>
> Bob H.

Fabien HENON


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From: Bob H 
Subject: Re: light source & camera CHM help 496 Kb
Date: 12 Dec 2000 02:57:23
Message: <3a35da63@news.povray.org>
"Fabien HENON" <ffj### [at] club-internetfr> wrote in message
news:3A355F8F.8FE15821@club-internet.fr...
>
> I am going to make it appear maximized on opening. I found the right flag for
that.
>

Better you than me.  I say again, it's a good work you have begun.

Bob H.


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From: Sander
Subject: Re: light source & camera CHM help 496 Kb
Date: 12 Dec 2000 09:08:00
Message: <MPG.14a04f87d5f074139896bc@news.povray.org>
in povray.binaries.tutorials, Fabien HENON says...
> Thanks for the remark.
> For the chm file, I merely downloaded HTML Help Workshop from the
> Microsoft
> site to compile it.
> The pages are first built with Netscape HTML editor (Composer).
> Once the pages are finished, they have to be indexed and compiled with
> HHW.
> It is a great tool.
> Yet I had to learn with errors and trials ( it reminds me of POV).
> I still have to find how to use the 'search' tab properly. It might be
> useful.

Thanks for the information: I'll have a try as soon as my system is in 
order (hangs repeatedly...)

> 
> You mentionned HCW. Is it another compiler? I'd like to know about
> Microsoft
> competitors if there are any.

No competitor: it is MS Help Workshop. I got it together with Borland's 
C++ version 5 and also a more recent version came with Borland C++Builder 
v5. The funny thing is both HCW.exe's are accompanied by HCRTF.exe that 
looks the same, has nearly the same version number, but is smaller. It 
suggests that it has to do with RTF files. I haven't used it not looked 
into the help file.
This is what the directory contains, where I have the most recent 
HCW.exe:
===================
hcw.GID      130139 08-12-2000      14:56 H  A
hcw.FTG      245760 13-08-2000      15:19     
hcw.FTS      362496 13-08-2000      15:19     
hcrtf.exe    276480 31-01-2000      04:00     
hcw.cnt       18428 31-01-2000      04:00     
hcw.exe      500736 31-01-2000      04:00     
hcw.hlp      631431 31-01-2000      04:00     
hwdll.dll    154112 31-01-2000      04:00     
===================

> 
> As the file is getting larger and larger, I think I'll have to upload
> the file to my new site. The download speed might improve.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Fabien

In short: I am not very well 'au courant' with the help compiler business 
:)  But it works and it is able to generate very large help files.

-- 
Regards,  Sander


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