Does anyone know how to create a realistic candle flame and use it as a
light source?  Please reply to me privately.  TIA

Mr. Ashley McGlone
Ash### [at] PremierWebNet

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There is one example scene provided with POV-Ray I believe
the title is matches.pov. It is an excellent example of producing
flames. In POV-Ray 3.01 it was in the showoff directory.

Ken

Ashley McGlone wrote:

> Does anyone know how to create a realistic candle flame and use it as a
> light source?  Please reply to me privately.  TIA
>
> Mr. Ashley McGlone
> Ash### [at] PremierWebNet

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Ken,

    I'm also interested in a semi-realistic (or better) flame and I looked
for the example scene you mentioned, but there doesn't seem to be any such
object.  I have also taken the time to render all of the examples shipped
with POV and used a graphical image browser and don't see any that have
anything that looks like a flame in them.

If I've overlooked something, I'd appreciate being set straight.

Thanks,
Patrick Hagerty
pat### [at] hagwarecom


Ken wrote:

> There is one example scene provided with POV-Ray I believe
> the title is matches.pov. It is an excellent example of producing
> flames. In POV-Ray 3.01 it was in the showoff directory.
>
> Ken
>
> Ashley McGlone wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know how to create a realistic candle flame and use it as a
> > light source?  Please reply to me privately.  TIA
> >
> > Mr. Ashley McGlone
> > Ash### [at] PremierWebNet

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Ken was talking about the matches on fire in a book of matches.
It is all halo I believe and isn't exactly a "flame" such as that of a candle.
It isn't very easy to get a good looking candle flame, I know because I've 
tried. If you need to see it, I'll send it your way if I can locate it.
Perhaps the most unavoidable problem with them is the background, any changes 
make the flame appear very different.

Message <363355B0.52D055A0@hagware.com>, Patrick Hagerty  typed...
>
>Ken,
>
>    I'm also interested in a semi-realistic (or better) flame and I looked
>for the example scene you mentioned, but there doesn't seem to be any such
>object.  I have also taken the time to render all of the examples shipped
>with POV and used a graphical image browser and don't see any that have
>anything that looks like a flame in them.
>
>If I've overlooked something, I'd appreciate being set straight.
>
>Thanks,
>Patrick Hagerty
>pat### [at] hagwarecom
>
>
>Ken wrote:
>
>> There is one example scene provided with POV-Ray I believe
>> the title is matches.pov. It is an excellent example of producing
>> flames. In POV-Ray 3.01 it was in the showoff directory.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> Ashley McGlone wrote:
>>
>> > Does anyone know how to create a realistic candle flame and use it as a
>> > light source?  Please reply to me privately.  TIA
>> >
>> > Mr. Ashley McGlone
>> > Ash### [at] PremierWebNet
>

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=Bob

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Patrick Hagerty wrote:

> Ken,
>
>     I'm also interested in a semi-realistic (or better) flame and I looked
> for the example scene you mentioned, but there doesn't seem to be any such
> object.  I have also taken the time to render all of the examples shipped
> with POV and used a graphical image browser and don't see any that have
> anything that looks like a flame in them.
>
> If I've overlooked something, I'd appreciate being set straight.
>
> Thanks,
> Patrick Hagerty
> pat### [at] hagwarecom

The file I was referencing was included with the 3.0x version of Pov-Ray.
Halos have been discontinues in the 3.1 version and as a consequence
the example was removed. There is an example of producing flames by
Dan Connelly posted to the povray.binaries.images group. It dates back
to some time around 9/25/98.  This example uses the new media feature
in v3.1 and is worth looking at. While not useful as a candle flame perhaps
it can get you going in the right direction.

Ken Tyler

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Patrick Hagerty wrote:
> 
> Ken,
> 
>     I'm also interested in a semi-realistic (or better) flame and I looked
> for the example scene you mentioned, but there doesn't seem to be any such
> object.  I have also taken the time to render all of the examples shipped
> with POV and used a graphical image browser and don't see any that have
> anything that looks like a flame in them.
> 
> If I've overlooked something, I'd appreciate being set straight.
> 
> Thanks,
> Patrick Hagerty
> pat### [at] hagwarecom
> 
> Ken wrote:
> 
> > There is one example scene provided with POV-Ray I believe
> > the title is matches.pov. It is an excellent example of producing
> > flames. In POV-Ray 3.01 it was in the showoff directory.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > Ashley McGlone wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone know how to create a realistic candle flame and use it as a
> > > light source?  Please reply to me privately.  TIA
> > >
> > > Mr. Ashley McGlone
> > > Ash### [at] PremierWebNet

There's no candle in the demo-files as far as I could see either. But I saw one
posted just a short while ago. Either that or it was on a webpage....
Hm....
Anyway, I've been working on it too and I've managed to get a semi-realistic
result. It is not as good as it could be, but it did the job for me (the image
might be somewhere in the binaries-group) and it might be a start.
Perhaps someone will post a good, thorough, usable include, otherwise I'd be
happy to share my crap :-)

Good luck,

Remco

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