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From: Mike Miller
Subject: jacks_workbench_cam_B.png
Date: 22 May 2023 08:30:01
Message: <web.646b5f46250c70fb3bb576b5dabc9342@news.povray.org>
Progress rendering of workbench and Jack. Looking for interesting camera angles.
This one features the corkscrew. I think the shadow quality is looking nice.
Miller


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From: Alain Martel
Subject: Re: jacks_workbench_cam_B.png
Date: 22 May 2023 14:16:51
Message: <646bb193@news.povray.org>
Le 2023-05-22 à 08:29, Mike Miller a écrit :
> Progress rendering of workbench and Jack. Looking for interesting camera angles.
> This one features the corkscrew. I think the shadow quality is looking nice.
> Miller
Note regarding the ceiling : Usually, the first layer of planks above 
the beams is set at a 45° angle. This make for a sturdier floor that is 
less prone to creaking.

Other than that, Great image.


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: jacks_workbench_cam_B.png
Date: 22 May 2023 15:55:00
Message: <web.646bc853df91fa071f9dae3025979125@news.povray.org>
Alain Martel <kua### [at] videotronca> wrote:

> Note regarding the ceiling : Usually, the first layer of planks above

> less prone to creaking.

It sure used to be done that way - but not anymore.   Everything is cheap and
crappy, and driven by the "revolving door" between corporate interests and
corrupt government.  The corrupt regulators let the people they'r supposed to be
regulating do whatever they want in exchange for sweet post-government
employment sinecures, and the company people get elected/selected/appointed to
positions inside the government agencies that regulate their trade.
"Whenever anything is regulated, the first thing to be bought and sold is the
regulators."

I have a set of Audel's Carpenters and Builders Guide, and the describe the
diagonal-set subfloor planks and walls, etc - but to build houses in the ways
that they describe would be prohibitively expensive today.

The central banks have printed so much fiat money that it's nearly worthless,
and so inflation is skyrocketing.  Then you add the protectionism, licensing,
code, regulations, taxes, inspections, unions, etc - and everything becomes 100
times more expensive than it needs to be.

Also, I live in a building that's over 100 years old, and the planks in our
(very low-ceiling) partial basement just run straight across.  So it very much
depends on what decisions the builders made.

Deeper beams flex less, using diagonal bracing in between the beams adds
rigidity to resist racking forces, and laying down a layer or two of rosin
construction paper adds enough friction to reduce any sliding between the floor
planks and the supporting beams, thus minimizing or eliminating creaking
altogether.


> Other than that, Great image.

It's completely insane.  The modeling and texturing are top-notch, as well as
being creep as hell.

- BE


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From: jr
Subject: Re: jacks_workbench_cam_B.png
Date: 23 May 2023 06:35:00
Message: <web.646c9663df91fa07b49d80446cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

Alain Martel <kua### [at] videotronca> wrote:
> ...
> Note regarding the ceiling : Usually, the first layer of planks above

> less prone to creaking.

your comment made me look hard for a(nother) nit to pick.  </grin>

think the head of the nail holding the corkscrew looks too "new", too unmarked.


> Other than that, Great image.

agree, superb "photo".


regards, jr.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: jacks_workbench_cam_B.png
Date: 23 May 2023 07:30:49
Message: <646ca3e9$1@news.povray.org>
Op 23-5-2023 om 12:33 schreef jr:
> 
> agree, superb "photo".
> 

I am getting confused... Wasn't this a "render"? am I lost in the local 
photo club...? :-)

"superb" hardly covers the quality of Mike's work indeed. I simply 
remain speechless.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Alain Martel
Subject: Re: jacks_workbench_cam_B.png
Date: 23 May 2023 12:30:01
Message: <646cea09$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2023-05-23 à 06:33, jr a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> Alain Martel <kua### [at] videotronca> wrote:
>> ...
>> Note regarding the ceiling : Usually, the first layer of planks above
>> the beams is set at a 45° angle. This make for a sturdier floor that is
>> less prone to creaking.
> 
> your comment made me look hard for a(nother) nit to pick.  </grin>
> 
> think the head of the nail holding the corkscrew looks too "new", too unmarked.
Probably because that's a brand new nail, hammered there yesterday.
The two shiny screws are also new additions.
> 
> 
>> Other than that, Great image.
> 
> agree, superb "photo".
> 
> 
> regards, jr.
>


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From: Mike Miller
Subject: Re: jacks_workbench_cam_B.png
Date: 23 May 2023 16:15:00
Message: <web.646d1e9edf91fa073bb576b5dabc9342@news.povray.org>
Alain Martel <kua### [at] videotronca> wrote:

> > Progress rendering of workbench and Jack. Looking for interesting camera angles.
> > This one features the corkscrew. I think the shadow quality is looking nice.
> > Miller
> Note regarding the ceiling : Usually, the first layer of planks above

> less prone to creaking.
>
> Other than that, Great image.

Thanks,
yep, I've seen it that way.

My farmhouse was built in 1866. The floorboards are/were pine, no
tongue-n-groove, and run perpendicular to the trusses. When I bought the house
and removed the carpet, I could see why there was carpet..hahah. You could see
the crawl space from gaps in the planking. Not sure why no TG...or oak. I was
told the property was built from the surrounding trees. It does have good bones
though - rough-sawed true 2x4 oak which is now petrified. I could only use
hardened spikes or tapcon screws while remodeling....And yes, very creaky.
Mike


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