Original sketch for fish_13.

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This is a real bit of history for me! The original sketch is fascinating.

The 'fish13' included scene was my very first introduction to POV-ray, and my
first 'testing platform' to begin learning the code. Way back in 2005(?), in
v3.5 I think. When I finally figured out how to manipulate its fish image_map, I
was 'hooked', ha. I still have my earliest test renders!

That scene was dropped from more recent versions of POV-ray-- to my
disappointment. (I thought it was still included with v3.7.0 , but I can't find
it.) I've always felt that fish13 was a good and simple 'hands-on' scene with
which to learn some of the program's basics. And it looked cool too.

I just took a look at my archived fish13 folder and the scene file. It says...

//----------- fish out of water ----------- 3/10/92 miller

So that was... YOU?

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"Kenneth" <kdw### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> This is a real bit of history for me! The original sketch is fascinating.
>
> The 'fish13' included scene was my very first introduction to POV-ray, and my
> first 'testing platform' to begin learning the code. Way back in 2005(?), in
> v3.5 I think. When I finally figured out how to manipulate its fish image_map, I
> was 'hooked', ha. I still have my earliest test renders!
>
> That scene was dropped from more recent versions of POV-ray-- to my
> disappointment. (I thought it was still included with v3.7.0 , but I can't find
> it.) I've always felt that fish13 was a good and simple 'hands-on' scene with
> which to learn some of the program's basics. And it looked cool too.
>
> I just took a look at my archived fish13 folder and the scene file. It says...
>
> //----------- fish out of water ----------- 3/10/92 miller
>
> So that was... YOU?

Yep, that's me...a long time ago. Picking POV back up after a long hiatus.

I hand drafted most of my old POV scenes back then. Attached are drawings for a
toy train and the ionic_5 panther.
Mike.

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"Kenneth" <kdw### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> This is a real bit of history for me! The original sketch is fascinating.
>
> The 'fish13' included scene was my very first introduction to POV-ray, and my
> first 'testing platform' to begin learning the code. Way back in 2005(?), in
> v3.5 I think. When I finally figured out how to manipulate its fish image_map, I
> was 'hooked', ha. I still have my earliest test renders!
>
> That scene was dropped from more recent versions of POV-ray-- to my
> disappointment. (I thought it was still included with v3.7.0 , but I can't find
> it.) I've always felt that fish13 was a good and simple 'hands-on' scene with
> which to learn some of the program's basics. And it looked cool too.
>
> I just took a look at my archived fish13 folder and the scene file. It says...
>
> //----------- fish out of water ----------- 3/10/92 miller
>
> So that was... YOU?

That's nice to hear. fish13 changed your life. :)  I'm not familiar yet with
all the fellow ray tracers/programmer here...I joined the site a week ago or so.
Very happy that POV is alive and well!
Mike

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"Mike Miller" <mil### [at] gmailcom> wrote:

>
> That's nice to hear. fish13 changed your life. :)

Oh, so it's you I can blame! :-D

A hearty WELCOME BACK!

There was also one other important inspiration that got me hooked on POV-Ray:
the 'Rocket' image by Jochen Diehl from 2004 (it's in the 'Hall Of Fame'
collection of outstanding images.) I had never seen anything like it-- and it
still looks beautiful.

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On 25/02/2023 09:55, Mike Miller wrote:
> Yep, that's me...a long time ago. Picking POV back up after a long hiatus.

G'day Mike, good to see you again. Indeed it's been a while, I think my last chat with
you was while you were still [70353,100] on CIS and we all hung out on GRAPHDEV :)

Welcome back!

-- Chris

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Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
> On 25/02/2023 09:55, Mike Miller wrote:
> > Yep, that's me...a long time ago. Picking POV back up after a long hiatus.
>
> G'day Mike, good to see you again. Indeed it's been a while, I think my last chat
with you was while you were still [
70353,100] on CIS and we all hung out on GRAPHDEV :)
>
> Welcome back!
>
> -- Chris

OMG, yes CIS GRAPHDEV, Compuserve and my dialup modem. It's all coming back to
me. :) Yes, it's been a while. Compuserve was located in my hometown of
Columbus, OH. ...go bucks.

So, what have you been up to?
I been wondering if any other old timers are still around. Like Farmer, Wells,
Brown... I had a lot of fun hanging with people much smarter than me back then -
and I still do. :)
Mike

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On 19/03/2023 15:28, Mike Miller wrote:
> OMG, yes CIS GRAPHDEV, Compuserve and my dialup modem. It's all coming back to
> me. :) Yes, it's been a while. Compuserve was located in my hometown of
> Columbus, OH. ...go bucks.

I wonder if any of the old forums on CIS are archived anywhere. It would be kind of
like time travel to look back on them. I do have a fair chunk of forum messages cached
in my offline reader, as of the time it shut down. But that's not a full archive.

> I been wondering if any other old timers are still around. Like Farmer, Wells, Brown

Very few from the CIS days are around. For some of them it's probably 30 years.
Interests change, people move on. I occasionally exchange email with Chris Young or
David Buck. Chris was likely the team leader back in the time you were active so you
may remember him. He has a YouTube channel at
https://www.youtube.com/@cyborg555/videos

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On 2023-03-19 00:28 (-4), Mike Miller wrote:
> 
> OMG, yes CIS GRAPHDEV, Compuserve and my dialup modem. It's all coming back to
> me. :) Yes, it's been a while. Compuserve was located in my hometown of
> Columbus, OH. ...go bucks.

So, what happened to their football team last fall?  First, they go to
sleep in the second half against Michigan, then they blow the semifinal
against Georgia for want of a field goal.

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On 2023-03-19 5:36 a.m., Chris Cason wrote:
> On 19/03/2023 15:28, Mike Miller wrote:
>> OMG, yes CIS GRAPHDEV, Compuserve and my dialup modem. It's all coming 
>> back to
>> me. :) Yes, it's been a while. Compuserve was located in my hometown of
>> Columbus, OH. ...go bucks.
> 
> I wonder if any of the old forums on CIS are archived anywhere. It would 
> be kind of like time travel to look back on them. I do have a fair chunk 
> of forum messages cached in my offline reader, as of the time it shut 
> down. But that's not a full archive.
> 
>> I been wondering if any other old timers are still around. Like 
>> Farmer, Wells, Brown
> 
> Very few from the CIS days are around. For some of them it's probably 30 
> years. Interests change, people move on. I occasionally exchange email 
> with Chris Young or David Buck. Chris was likely the team leader back in 
> the time you were active so you may remember him. He has a YouTube 
> channel at https://www.youtube.com/@cyborg555/videos


I'm still around and check into these forums and pop my head in from 
time to time.  I still use POV-Ray from time to time and frequently talk 
about it.  I haven't been involved in the coding of POV-Ray since the 
early 1990's.

David (Kirk) Buck

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