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From: s day
Subject: Remaster
Date: 13 Sep 2022 14:15:00
Message: <web.6320c82937644ae51da6e4f06a8f0b95@news.povray.org>
As I never seem to have time to create new images I decided to just tweak/update
an old image of mine.

Below is the original from 2004, the background was just randomly coloured
spheres to simulate an autumnal tree (hence the extreme focal blur).


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From: s day
Subject: Re: Remaster
Date: 13 Sep 2022 14:20:00
Message: <web.6320c94125703d581da6e4f06a8f0b95@news.povray.org>
Here is the remastered version ;-)

Updated the background with an exterior HDR probe and of course used HDR
lighting.

Updated the textures and added SSLT for the spider, probably this needed some
tweaking but it was really just a quick update to see what effect HDR lighting
would have on the scene and I have never mastered the SSLT settings.


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From: Alain Martel
Subject: Re: Remaster
Date: 13 Sep 2022 14:27:58
Message: <6320cbae$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2022-09-13 à 14:17, s.day a écrit :
> Here is the remastered version ;-)
> 
> Updated the background with an exterior HDR probe and of course used HDR
> lighting.
> 
> Updated the textures and added SSLT for the spider, probably this needed some
> tweaking but it was really just a quick update to see what effect HDR lighting
> would have on the scene and I have never mastered the SSLT settings.
> 

Pretty good. That's a MASSIVE improvement. Good work.


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: Remaster
Date: 13 Sep 2022 14:58:05
Message: <6320d2bd$1@news.povray.org>
Am 13.09.2022 um 20:17 schrieb s.day:
> Here is the remastered version ;-)
> 
> Updated the background with an exterior HDR probe and of course used HDR
> lighting.
> 
> Updated the textures and added SSLT for the spider, probably this needed some
> tweaking but it was really just a quick update to see what effect HDR lighting
> would have on the scene and I have never mastered the SSLT settings.
> 
Very much better than the original. The web seems to be a little bit to 
irregular IMO and the droplets a little bit to regular. Especially, at 
the crossings of the strings the droplets should melt into another. An 
POV image (with code) which could be critized in the other way round was 
given by Franck Angella, IRTC 1998-06 (faweb). May be a mixture of his 
and your approach would be best.

Best regards
Michael


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Remaster
Date: 14 Sep 2022 02:11:31
Message: <63217093$1@news.povray.org>
Op 13/09/2022 om 20:17 schreef s.day:
> Here is the remastered version ;-)
> 
> Updated the background with an exterior HDR probe and of course used HDR
> lighting.
> 
> Updated the textures and added SSLT for the spider, probably this needed some
> tweaking but it was really just a quick update to see what effect HDR lighting
> would have on the scene and I have never mastered the SSLT settings.
> 

Very good indeed. I am not entirely sure if the spider needs SSLT 
though. The original spider looks a tad better, but then as you say, 
more tweaking would be needed. In any case, very well done indeed.

-- 
Thomas


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From: jr
Subject: Re: Remaster
Date: 14 Sep 2022 10:40:00
Message: <web.6321e7ab25703d58ecf5a77b6cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

"s.day" <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:
> Here is the remastered version ;-)
> ...

I had not known the original, but the "remaster" is an awesome image. cheers.

(POV-Ray images (art) seem to be a little like waiting for the bus.  you wait
for ages, then two come along at the same time :-))


regards, jr.


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From: Alain Martel
Subject: Re: Remaster
Date: 14 Sep 2022 10:49:29
Message: <6321e9f9$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2022-09-14 à 02:11, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
> Op 13/09/2022 om 20:17 schreef s.day:
>> Here is the remastered version ;-)
>>
>> Updated the background with an exterior HDR probe and of course used HDR
>> lighting.
>>
>> Updated the textures and added SSLT for the spider, probably this 
>> needed some
>> tweaking but it was really just a quick update to see what effect HDR 
>> lighting
>> would have on the scene and I have never mastered the SSLT settings.
>>
> 
> Very good indeed. I am not entirely sure if the spider needs SSLT 
> though. The original spider looks a tad better, but then as you say, 
> more tweaking would be needed. In any case, very well done indeed.
> 
Maybe just reducing the amount of translucency. Like maybe dividing it 
by 3 or 4...


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From: s day
Subject: Re: Remaster
Date: 14 Sep 2022 12:10:00
Message: <web.6321fcbf25703d581da6e4f06a8f0b95@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Very good indeed. I am not entirely sure if the spider needs SSLT
> though. The original spider looks a tad better, but then as you say,
> more tweaking would be needed. In any case, very well done indeed.
>
> --
> Thomas

I kind of agree, the original spider looked better in some ways but as I was
updating the image thought I would try out SSLT again. The main purpose was to
re-render with HDR and some texture tweaks.

Now looking for further old images I can do the same to until I have time to
actually model something new.


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: Remaster
Date: 14 Sep 2022 13:20:00
Message: <web.63220cd825703d581f9dae3025979125@news.povray.org>
"s.day" <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> > Very good indeed. I am not entirely sure if the spider needs SSLT
> > though. The original spider looks a tad better, but then as you say,
> > more tweaking would be needed. In any case, very well done indeed.
> >
> > --
> > Thomas
>
> I kind of agree, the original spider looked better in some ways but as I was
> updating the image thought I would try out SSLT again. The main purpose was to
> re-render with HDR and some texture tweaks.

I think if you do no SSLT on the body, and SSLT on the legs (if possible), that
would work out well.   It is of course a bit difficult to directly compare the
two, given the vastly different lighting.


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From: s day
Subject: Re: Remaster
Date: 14 Sep 2022 15:20:00
Message: <web.6322293625703d581da6e4f06a8f0b95@news.povray.org>
Another image to remaster (I must have been going through a spider phase).

The original image..


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