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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: pattern blend
Date: 5 Mar 2018 08:30:00
Message: <web.5a9d45db8351d7b05cafe28e0@news.povray.org>
This is a great tool - one that is obvious in retrospect, but I had never
thought of.

It's great that it's possible to save an image with a certain gamma and then use
it as a height field, but the obvious question that affects the real utility of
this is:

Is it possible to READ the existing, non-gamma modified image in using a certain
gamma value for use in a height field?

So, for example, use TdG's gamma 1.0 image to generate his gamma 2.2 height
field?


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: pattern blend
Date: 5 Mar 2018 08:46:56
Message: <5a9d4a50$1@news.povray.org>
Am 05.03.2018 um 14:27 schrieb Bald Eagle:
> This is a great tool - one that is obvious in retrospect, but I had never
> thought of.
> 
> It's great that it's possible to save an image with a certain gamma and then use
> it as a height field, but the obvious question that affects the real utility of
> this is:
> 
> Is it possible to READ the existing, non-gamma modified image in using a certain
> gamma value for use in a height field?
> 
> So, for example, use TdG's gamma 1.0 image to generate his gamma 2.2 height
> field?

Well, yes, absolutely: In the height field, just specify "gamma FLOAT"
after the image file name.

I think you need to specify "gamma 1/2.2" for the intended effect.

There may be slight differences due to different rounding, but other
than that it should work just fine.


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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: pattern blend
Date: 5 Mar 2018 10:15:00
Message: <web.5a9d5e968351d7b06d6a50430@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:

> Has anyone tried to produce a solarisation effect?

Hi,
with a simple approach I got this image - here is the code

// render with image resolution and No AA. Method is very memory intensive for
large image sizes!

#version 3.7;

global_settings {
        assumed_gamma 1
}

#include "stdinc.inc"

camera {
        orthographic
        location <0,0,-2>
        look_at 0
        right x*image_width
        up y*image_height
}

#declare image_width_Old = image_width;
#declare image_ratio = image_width/image_height;
#declare image_height_Old = image_width_Old/image_ratio;

#declare pig_map =
function {
        pigment {
                image_map {jpeg "glasses" gamma 2.2}
                scale <image_width_Old,image_height_Old,1>
        }
}

#declare nx = 0;
#while (nx < image_width)
        #declare ny = 0;
        #while (ny < image_height)
                #declare paint_pig = pig_map (nx+0.5,ny+0.5,0);
                box {
                        0, 1
                        pigment {color srgb <max (paint_pig.x,
1-paint_pig.x),max (paint_pig.y, 1-paint_pig.y),max (paint_pig.z,
1-paint_pig.z)>*2-1}
                        finish {emission 1 diffuse 0}
                        translate <nx-image_width*0.5,ny-image_height*0.5,0>
                }
                #declare ny = ny+1;
        #end
        #declare nx = nx+1;
        #debug concat (str (nx/image_width*100, 0, 1)," % processed \n")
#end


Norbert


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: pattern blend
Date: 5 Mar 2018 11:50:25
Message: <5a9d7551$1@news.povray.org>
On 05/03/2018 15:13, Norbert Kern wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone tried to produce a solarisation effect?
> 
> Hi,
> with a simple approach I got this image - here is the code
> 

Oo! shiny. I like.

You are on a roll, Norbert. :-)


> // render with image resolution and No AA. Method is very memory intensive for
> large image sizes!
> 
> #version 3.7;
> 
> global_settings {
>          assumed_gamma 1
> }
> 
> #include "stdinc.inc"
> 
> camera {
>          orthographic
>          location <0,0,-2>
>          look_at 0
>          right x*image_width
>          up y*image_height
> }
> 
> #declare image_width_Old = image_width;
> #declare image_ratio = image_width/image_height;
> #declare image_height_Old = image_width_Old/image_ratio;
> 
> #declare pig_map =
> function {
>          pigment {
>                  image_map {jpeg "glasses" gamma 2.2}
>                  scale <image_width_Old,image_height_Old,1>
>          }
> }
> 
> #declare nx = 0;
> #while (nx < image_width)
>          #declare ny = 0;
>          #while (ny < image_height)
>                  #declare paint_pig = pig_map (nx+0.5,ny+0.5,0);
>                  box {
>                          0, 1
>                          pigment {color srgb <max (paint_pig.x,
> 1-paint_pig.x),max (paint_pig.y, 1-paint_pig.y),max (paint_pig.z,
> 1-paint_pig.z)>*2-1}
>                          finish {emission 1 diffuse 0}
>                          translate <nx-image_width*0.5,ny-image_height*0.5,0>
>                  }
>                  #declare ny = ny+1;
>          #end
>          #declare nx = nx+1;
>          #debug concat (str (nx/image_width*100, 0, 1)," % processed \n")
> #end
> 
> 
> Norbert
> 
> 


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: pattern blend
Date: 5 Mar 2018 11:52:47
Message: <5a9d75df@news.povray.org>
On 05/03/2018 16:50, Stephen wrote:
> 
> Oo! shiny. I like.
> 
> You are on a roll, Norbert. :-)

It looks good as a negative, too (also).

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: pattern blend
Date: 5 Mar 2018 15:40:01
Message: <web.5a9daa628351d7b0a47873e10@news.povray.org>
"Norbert Kern" <nor### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone tried to produce a solarisation effect?
>
> Hi,
> with a simple approach I got this image - here is the code
>
Brilliant! I actually didn't think it was possible.


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: pattern blend
Date: 5 Mar 2018 15:55:00
Message: <5a9daea4@news.povray.org>

> On 4-3-2018 18:12, Norbert Kern wrote:
>> #declare p_o_x = function {p_original (x,y,z).x}
>> #declare p_o_y = function {p_original (x,y,z).y}
>> #declare p_o_z = function {p_original (x,y,z).z}
>>
> 
> I had thought to use:
> 
> #declare p_o_R = function {p_original (x,y,z).red}
> #declare p_o_G = function {p_original (x,y,z).green}
> #declare p_o_B = function {p_original (x,y,z).blue}
> 
> But that should yield the same thing I guess. I was going to code that...
> 

Yes, both forms will yield the same end result, but, the second form is 
recommended whenever you are dealing with colours.

Alain


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: pattern blend
Date: 5 Mar 2018 15:55:01
Message: <web.5a9dadc48351d7b0a47873e10@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:

> >
> > I shall make a small test scene. A way for me to remember stuff.
> >
>
> Like this. Left, image gamma is 1.0; right, image gamma is 2.2.
>

Nice! And you picked a good pattern to show it off.

The real *fun* begins when you take a height_field image (made elsewhere) and
*combine* it with a procedural pigment or pattern-- both of which can be
gamma-bent. It's a bit more complicated to code, but I was working up an example
anyway, and will post in a new thread. (BTW, some other interesting effects can
be gotten by making the gamma *less than* 1.0.)


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: pattern blend
Date: 5 Mar 2018 18:05:01
Message: <web.5a9dcc7e8351d7b0a47873e10@news.povray.org>
"Kenneth" <kdw### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> (There's also a HF difference
> between images SAVED at different gamma values, for the same reason-- 1.0 being
> a linear slope, 2.2 being more of a curve.)

Uh, I'm not so sure about that now. I made a test scene a couple of weeks ago
that showed this. (Or so I thought.) Now, a newer test scene shows no
difference-- producing the same 'linear' height_field slopes no matter what
gamma the images are saved at (with either JPEG *or* PNG image files.) But then
again, I'm using my older wonky Photoshop 5 to make and save the original
images, which can't be completely trusted as far as gamma goes.  Hmm, a mystery.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: pattern blend
Date: 6 Mar 2018 02:40:49
Message: <5a9e4601@news.povray.org>
On 5-3-2018 14:46, clipka wrote:
> Am 05.03.2018 um 14:27 schrieb Bald Eagle:
>> This is a great tool - one that is obvious in retrospect, but I had never
>> thought of.
>>
>> It's great that it's possible to save an image with a certain gamma and then use
>> it as a height field, but the obvious question that affects the real utility of
>> this is:
>>
>> Is it possible to READ the existing, non-gamma modified image in using a certain
>> gamma value for use in a height field?
>>
>> So, for example, use TdG's gamma 1.0 image to generate his gamma 2.2 height
>> field?
> 
> Well, yes, absolutely: In the height field, just specify "gamma FLOAT"
> after the image file name.
> 
> I think you need to specify "gamma 1/2.2" for the intended effect.
> 
> There may be slight differences due to different rounding, but other
> than that it should work just fine.
> 

And that is exactly what I did above; I see that I generated some 
confusion with BaldEagle :-) The - single - original height_field image 
has an unknown (to me) gamma. It is in POV-Ray that I declare the gamma 
value to use, like Clipka said [code snippet]:

   pigment {
     image_map {
       tga "Apophysis_06_hfisland.tga" gamma 2.2 //or 1.1
       map_type 0
       interpolate 2
     }
   }

-- 
Thomas


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