Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 25-6-2013 23:06, MichaelJF wrote:
>> I think that the HOF should be updated more then only every some years.
>> Especially Sean has provided us with wonderful pictures over the years
>> and not
>> only this one is worth the HOF. His train, his museum, his wreck or
>> even the
>> moss the published just recently is worth the HOF IMO. And another
>> issue: he
>> shared nearly all his efforts to the community. Others who entered the
>> HOF did
>> not. So my suggestion is to put not only this work of Sean into the
>> HOF but a
>> lot of his earlier ones as well. He is one of the best of us, IMO.
>>
>
> Hear! Hear!
>
> I fully agree with Michael. Btw, how are the HOF images selected? Any
> feedback from/to the community? At least once a year, there should be an
> assessment.
>
> Thomas
>
>

Thanks Michael/Thomas,

I suspect like most things it boils down to how much time the site 
administrator(s) have spare. Some kind of voting/nomination system would 
be good maybe like a small scale annual povcomp where people submit 
images throughout the year with the best one(s) added to the HOF at the 
end of each year.

We do have to remember though that anything to do with POV is voluntary 
so any ideas we have would take a lot of time from someone who I dare 
say is already very busy to implement.

Sean

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On 26-6-2013 10:07, Sean Day wrote:

  We do have to remember though that anything to do with POV is voluntary
> so any ideas we have would take a lot of time from someone who I dare
> say is already very busy to implement.
>

That is very true indeed. And we all want improvement of POV-Ray in the 
first place and before all else of course :-)


Thomas

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"Thomas de Groot" <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote in message 
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> I fully agree with Michael. Btw, how are the HOF images selected? Any 
> feedback from/to the community? At least once a year, there should be an 
> assessment.

That would be fun, but we'd have to assess which images to remove as well. 
It's IMO too large for a hall of fame already. There are some real dogs in 
the HOF, and I'd swap Sean's image for many of them, even though it's 
(again, IMO) not really ambitious enough for inclusion in my idea of a HoF.

Hemingway says it very well:
"It was not brilliant bull-fighting. It was only perfect bull-fighting. The 
crowd wanted the bull changed."

 -Shay

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Le 28/06/2013 00:30, Shay nous fit lire :
> "Thomas de Groot" <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote in message
> news:51ca912f$1@news.povray.org...
>>
>> I fully agree with Michael. Btw, how are the HOF images selected? Any
>> feedback from/to the community? At least once a year, there should be
>> an assessment.
> 
> That would be fun, but we'd have to assess which images to remove as
> well. It's IMO too large for a hall of fame already. There are some real
> dogs in the HOF, and I'd swap Sean's image for many of them, even though
> it's (again, IMO) not really ambitious enough for inclusion in my idea
> of a HoF.
> 

Maybe we need a HOF in the form of a *-TOP, (like some musical weekly
ordered by sales/popularity/... ).
Let's assume a Top-20 (or Top-50 ?), the list would be x2 or x3 that
length (or do we need a limit ?), with entries once old enough (a year)
and down the list (past its length) going either to limbo or to the
retirement list (unlimited, unsorted) if they ever achieved to enter the
HOF (I hate destroying data, but if some contributions look like a black
picture with a single white pixel it might not be worth keeping for
posterity, yet the nice pictures of 20 years ago might be worth some
respect even if now they looks so easy).
Each "voter" could either:
 * vote for a limited (?) number of entries (with different fixed
weights), such as 15 for a top-20 ?
 * order the whole list of candidates
 * get to compare some pair of pictures with answer like "First image
definitely","rather first image but second is ok too", "both are pretty
good", "both are as bad and should not be kept"...
(see

>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_system#Criteria_in_evaluating_single_winner_voting_systems

perfection is impossible, the vote-system chooses the winner)

To also allow a bit of fairness between images, they should be similar
in size. Alas, fixing dimensions also fix the ratio, and some
compositions do not fit in the ratio of other. Maybe just a pixel count
should be used, such as 1 million pixels exactly (or within 5%).

The number of pixel should be revised along the years.

Anyone got such web-code already ? something as nice as cgsphere.com
Or time & talent to develop such gallery ?
(and beware of spammers)

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If anyone wants it the source to this scene is in scene/text files thread.

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On 11-7-2013 12:07, s.day wrote:
> If anyone wants it the source to this scene is in scene/text files thread.
>
Oh! That is nice, because I certainly want to play with this and learn. 
Thanks indeed.

When I finish the present scene, I shall also post my isosurface rock code.

Thomas

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