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From: Zeke
Subject: First POV
Date: 2 Mar 2009 06:38:23
Message: <49abc52f@news.povray.org>
Suppose I should do this after months and months of admiring the amazing 
work here.

Z


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From: larryfulkerson
Subject: Re: First POV
Date: 2 Mar 2009 07:20:01
Message: <web.49abcedef293d012955508870@news.povray.org>
Zeke <"zeke at no spam zeke3d.com"> wrote:
> Suppose I should do this after months and months of admiring the amazing
> work here.
>
> Z

I remember doing one just like this when I was new.  Except mine had a blue and
white checkered floor.  LOL.  You should really look into modeling your scenes
Zeke.  It opens a whole new world of POV when you can work faster than writing
scripts by hand.  And it's more fun.  Good work.  Here's a C130 I'm trying to
model using Moray.  You can have the *.mdl file if you want it.


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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: First POV
Date: 2 Mar 2009 08:01:29
Message: <49abd8a9@news.povray.org>

news: web.49abcedef293d012955508870@news.povray.org...
> Zeke <"zeke at no spam zeke3d.com"> wrote:
>> Suppose I should do this after months and months of admiring the amazing
>> work here.
>>
>> Z
>
> I remember doing one just like this when I was new.  Except mine had a 
> blue and
> white checkered floor.  LOL.  You should really look into modeling your 
> scenes
> Zeke.  It opens a whole new world of POV when you can work faster than 
> writing
> scripts by hand.  And it's more fun.  Good work.  Here's a C130 I'm trying 
> to
> model using Moray.  You can have the *.mdl file if you want it.
>
Nice but your plane is not checkered :-/

Marc


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From: LightBeam
Subject: Re: First POV
Date: 2 Mar 2009 09:12:12
Message: <49abe93c$1@news.povray.org>


> news: web.49abcedef293d012955508870@news.povray.org...
>> Zeke <"zeke at no spam zeke3d.com"> wrote:
>>> Suppose I should do this after months and months of admiring the amazing
>>> work here.
>>>
>>> Z
>> I remember doing one just like this when I was new.  Except mine had a 
>> blue and
>> white checkered floor.  LOL.  You should really look into modeling your 
>> scenes
>> Zeke.  It opens a whole new world of POV when you can work faster than 
>> writing
>> scripts by hand.  And it's more fun.  Good work.  Here's a C130 I'm trying 
>> to
>> model using Moray.  You can have the *.mdl file if you want it.
>>
> Nice but your plane is not checkered :-/
> 
> Marc 

Remind me something ;-)


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: First POV
Date: 2 Mar 2009 13:25:01
Message: <web.49ac2436f293d012437a073a0@news.povray.org>
Zeke <"zeke at no spam zeke3d.com"> wrote:
> Suppose I should do this after months and months of admiring the amazing
> work here.

Congratulations - you obviously got further than one of our pros here, who only
managed to come up with some WIP shots of his chrome sphere ;)

For the classic RSOCP scene the sky is definitely too sophisticated though :P

One spontaneous thought: Too much ambient on the sphere (makes it look somewhat
"dusty"); in fact, a chrome sphere should have zero ambient.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: First POV
Date: 2 Mar 2009 13:30:00
Message: <web.49ac24ccf293d012437a073a0@news.povray.org>
"m_a_r_c" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote:
> Nice but your plane is not checkered :-/

But at least he's got two planes in the shot ;)


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: First POV
Date: 2 Mar 2009 19:35:16
Message: <49ac7b44$1@news.povray.org>
clipka nous illumina en ce 2009-03-02 13:23 -->
> Zeke <"zeke at no spam zeke3d.com"> wrote:
>> Suppose I should do this after months and months of admiring the amazing
>> work here.
> 
> Congratulations - you obviously got further than one of our pros here, who only
> managed to come up with some WIP shots of his chrome sphere ;)
> 
> For the classic RSOCP scene the sky is definitely too sophisticated though :P
> 
> One spontaneous thought: Too much ambient on the sphere (makes it look somewhat
> "dusty"); in fact, a chrome sphere should have zero ambient.
> 
> 
Just take a look at "metals.inc" and "golds.inc". Those "standard" metallic 
textures all have a LOT of ambient. Way to much in my point of view.

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
You know you've been raytracing too long when you have ever brought your 
computer to its knees by mistakenly launching 64 simultaneous frames to be 
traced, while trying to maximizing the benefits of parallelizing them.
Carsten Whimster


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From: Zeke
Subject: Re: First POV
Date: 2 Mar 2009 20:25:15
Message: <49ac86fb@news.povray.org>
Take 2

Z


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From: Charles C
Subject: Re: First POV
Date: 3 Mar 2009 01:10:01
Message: <web.49acc89bf293d012cac4259f0@news.povray.org>
Zeke <"zeke at no spam zeke3d.com"> wrote:
> Take 2

Classic :)
Charles


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: First POV
Date: 3 Mar 2009 06:15:00
Message: <web.49ad107ff293d012bdc576310@news.povray.org>
Alain <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> > One spontaneous thought: Too much ambient on the sphere (makes it look somewhat
> > "dusty"); in fact, a chrome sphere should have zero ambient.
> >
> >
> Just take a look at "metals.inc" and "golds.inc". Those "standard" metallic
> textures all have a LOT of ambient. Way to much in my point of view.

Those standard textures are *crap*, honestly. They seem to date back to ages
when realistic lighting models were still light years away. So they added
ambient where you would now want to use radiosity, colored reflections instead
of metallic ones, and more such kludges that may have been needed back then,
but just get in the way now.

You know how to do a good gold material these days?

Turn on radiosity, set up an HDRI sky sphere, choose a nice rich yellow color,
metallic reflection, some micronormals blur for highlights, and voila - you're
there. Five minutes flat if you're familiar with it.

In a conventional lighting environment, it takes you ages (well, at least it
does to me) to come up with something that *remotely* looks like some gold-ish
metal. Even if you start with the stuff from "golds.inc".

Well, I'll not complain though: Given how easy it is to make good metal textures
these days, who needs metals.inc or golds.inc anyway? They're not eating up too
much hard disk space, so I'll just leave them there ;)


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