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From: Trevor G Quayle
Subject: Raining...
Date: 15 Feb 2007 08:30:01
Message: <web.45d460474b5410c1c150d4c10@news.povray.org>
My latest CGSphere entry.  I wanted to show it off here as I am particularly
pleased with the water.
I used a heightfield with f_ridged_mf as has been previously suggested, for
the base, then used a crackle pattern for the raindrops (form <1,0,0>).

-tgq


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Raining...
Date: 15 Feb 2007 11:49:06
Message: <45d48f02@news.povray.org>
Trevor G Quayle wrote:
> My latest CGSphere entry.  I wanted to show it off here as I am particularly
> pleased with the water.

Very nice water!  I'd suggest doing something with the large drops on 
the glass. Gravity would imply they shouldn't be completely round. They 
look jarringly undrop-like, IMO. Make them sag a bit, perhaps, or maybe 
add some streaks to the camera lens, where drops have run down?

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     New horror show, now only in Las Vegas:
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From: Ross
Subject: Re: Raining...
Date: 15 Feb 2007 12:07:54
Message: <45d4936a@news.povray.org>
"Trevor G Quayle" <Tin### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:web.45d460474b5410c1c150d4c10@news.povray.org...
> My latest CGSphere entry.  I wanted to show it off here as I am
particularly
> pleased with the water.
> I used a heightfield with f_ridged_mf as has been previously suggested,
for
> the base, then used a crackle pattern for the raindrops (form <1,0,0>).
>
> -tgq

I think it's great. Some of Darren's comments woul dbe nice as well. I think
i'd make the falling rain in the foreground a little less elongated, even
though i know you are trying to show motion. nice work.


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From: Trevor G Quayle
Subject: Re: Raining...
Date: 15 Feb 2007 12:20:00
Message: <web.45d495bed45e36bfc150d4c10@news.povray.org>
"Ross" <rli### [at] speakeasynet> wrote:
>
> I think it's great. Some of Darren's comments woul dbe nice as well. I think
> i'd make the falling rain in the foreground a little less elongated, even
> though i know you are trying to show motion. nice work.

Thanks.  Yes, I took a little artistic license in the raindrop shape,
otherwise it's tough to show motion (motion_blur wasn't working the way I
would have liked and considerably added to the render time).

-tgq


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From: Trevor G Quayle
Subject: Re: Raining...
Date: 15 Feb 2007 12:20:00
Message: <web.45d4960ad45e36bfc150d4c10@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Very nice water!  I'd suggest doing something with the large drops on
> the glass. Gravity would imply they shouldn't be completely round. They
> look jarringly undrop-like, IMO. Make them sag a bit, perhaps, or maybe
> add some streaks to the camera lens, where drops have run down?

I suppose I could try to alter the drops somewhat.  Perhaps I'll see if I
can find some reference images.


-tgq


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From: somebody
Subject: Re: Raining...
Date: 15 Feb 2007 15:02:02
Message: <45d4bc3a@news.povray.org>
"Ross" <rli### [at] speakeasynet> wrote

> I think it's great. Some of Darren's comments woul dbe nice as well. I
think
> i'd make the falling rain in the foreground a little less elongated, even
> though i know you are trying to show motion. nice work.

Yes, in reality, falling drops are actually remarkably spherical. It's the
drops on the glass that should sag.


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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: Raining...
Date: 16 Feb 2007 00:47:20
Message: <45d54567@news.povray.org>
Trevor G Quayle wrote:

> My latest CGSphere entry.  I wanted to show it off here as I am
> particularly pleased with the water.
> I used a heightfield with f_ridged_mf as has been previously suggested,
> for the base, then used a crackle pattern for the raindrops (form
> <1,0,0>).
> 
> -tgq

Nice - agree with Darren on the drops - scale them a bit in the vertical
axis.
-- 
Stefan


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Raining...
Date: 16 Feb 2007 09:18:50
Message: <45d5bd4a$1@news.povray.org>
Really nice!
The surface of the water is so ...alive!
heightfield with f_ridged_mf? Nice effect!
;-)
Paolo

> "Trevor G Quayle" wrote:
> My latest CGSphere entry.  I wanted to show it off here as I am
particularly
> pleased with the water.
> I used a heightfield with f_ridged_mf as has been previously suggested,
for
> the base, then used a crackle pattern for the raindrops (form <1,0,0>).
>
> -tgq
>


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From: s day
Subject: Re: Raining...
Date: 16 Feb 2007 15:10:00
Message: <web.45d60f37d45e36bf956134060@news.povray.org>
"Trevor G Quayle" <Tin### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> "Ross" <rli### [at] speakeasynet> wrote:
> >
> > I think it's great. Some of Darren's comments woul dbe nice as well. I think
> > i'd make the falling rain in the foreground a little less elongated, even
> > though i know you are trying to show motion. nice work.
>
> Thanks.  Yes, I took a little artistic license in the raindrop shape,
> otherwise it's tough to show motion (motion_blur wasn't working the way I
> would have liked and considerably added to the render time).
>
> -tgq

Hi Trevor,

Firstly, thanks for creating the CGSphere template file, it's great to have
a POV template to play with. This is a great image, I agree that the
droplets on the lense need a less round shape and have a thought about the
rain droplets. Have you tried using multiple copies of each droplet giving
higher droplets a higher level of transparency? I have used this effect to
make a wheel look like it was moving and it worked quite well but it does
hurt the render times a lot!!

Other than that it is a great image and the water looke excellent.

Sean


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From: Trevor G Quayle
Subject: Re: Raining...
Date: 16 Feb 2007 17:00:01
Message: <web.45d6287bd45e36bfc150d4c10@news.povray.org>
"s.day" <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:
> Hi Trevor,
>
> Firstly, thanks for creating the CGSphere template file, it's great to have
> a POV template to play with.

No problem, too bad they don't have a way of sorting by POV submissions to
see what's all been submitted, still have to submit under "other".

> This is a great image, I agree that the
> droplets on the lense need a less round shape and have a thought about the
> rain droplets. Have you tried using multiple copies of each droplet giving
> higher droplets a higher level of transparency? I have used this effect to
> make a wheel look like it was moving and it worked quite well but it does
> hurt the render times a lot!!
>
> Other than that it is a great image and the water looke excellent.
>
> Sean

Thanks for the comments.  The only problem the multiple copy aspect is the
effect of ior, you can average out the appearance with increased
transparency, but I'm not sure how you can average out the refraction (and
reflection as I use fresnel).

Anyways, I have ran another render with a few changes:
1. adjusted the drops on the glass so they have more of a drooping
appearance as suggested.
2. changed the falling drops to spheres as real raindrops should be
(unfortunately this takes away the falling effect of the rain :( )
3. changed the cracked paint to an actual isosurface instead of just surface
normals to make it 'stand out' more. (for some reasons normals always look
flat to me)



-tgq


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