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From: Rarius
Subject: My CNC router design
Date: 7 Mar 2009 05:31:39
Message: <49b24d0b@news.povray.org>
As well as pretty pictures, POVRay is very useful as a 3D design tool. 
I've been designing a CNC router for the last few weeks and being able 
to render it from any angle has helped me get over many design 
difficulties.

Rarius


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: My CNC router design
Date: 7 Mar 2009 05:40:01
Message: <web.49b24e8e4b56cbe340b1852c0@news.povray.org>
"Rarius" <rar### [at] rariuscouk> wrote:
> As well as pretty pictures, POVRay is very useful as a 3D design tool.
> I've been designing a CNC router for the last few weeks and being able
> to render it from any angle has helped me get over many design
> difficulties.

(Expected image, found a copy of your post in the attachment instead)


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From: Rarius
Subject: Re: My CNC router design
Date: 7 Mar 2009 05:45:14
Message: <49b2503a$1@news.povray.org>
"clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
news:web.49b24e8e4b56cbe340b1852c0@news.povray.org...
>
> (Expected image, found a copy of your post in the attachment instead)

It came through OK for me.

The image is also accessible at 
http://rarius.co.uk/graphics/3axisrouter3.png

Rarius


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: My CNC router design
Date: 7 Mar 2009 13:26:10
Message: <49b2bc42$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:45:14 +0000, Rarius wrote:

> It came through OK for me.

It did here as well, but your post was a mix of plain text and HTML, 
that's probably why clipka had problems with it.

Switch your posting mode to text only (as you did in this post) and you 
won't have this problem in the future.

Jim


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: My CNC router design
Date: 7 Mar 2009 23:05:01
Message: <web.49b33df54b56cbe3f50167bc0@news.povray.org>
"Rarius" <rar### [at] rariuscouk> wrote:
> As well as pretty pictures, POVRay is very useful as a 3D design tool.
> I've been designing a CNC router for the last few weeks and being able
> to render it from any angle has helped me get over many design
> difficulties.
>
> Rarius

As always when designing such machinery, 'success lies in the details'--the
proper bearings, the elimination of mechanical backlash, etc.  I'm curious as
to what type of threaded drive shafts you plan on using?

Something to be aware of (and this is from my own personal experience) is that
using *multiple* threaded shafts to drive a single axis can create problems and
headaches in trying to get things to work reliably (not insurmountable ones, of
course)-- the shafts need to be as parallel as is humanly possible--in two
axes--so the moving platform doesn't 'lock up' at some point. Perhaps you've
taken that into account already.

Good luck with the design; it looks very promising. (Someday I want to build one
of these things myself.)

Ken W.


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: My CNC router design
Date: 8 Mar 2009 00:24:45
Message: <op.uqgjzite6b35ac@your-727a0a4e7c.vipowernet.net>
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:26:10 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom>  
wrote:

> On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:45:14 +0000, Rarius wrote:
>
>> It came through OK for me.
>
> It did here as well, but your post was a mix of plain text and HTML,
> that's probably why clipka had problems with it.

It doesn't come through on the Web interface, though it works fine on my  
Web browser's integrated news reader.

I noticed that your news poster, "MSHTML" (I wonder who that is?), makes  
copious use of the <font> element.  <font> was officially declared  
unseemly at least 10 years ago, and no less that Micro$oft explained part  
of the problem in a brilliant article:

    http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/designer/face7.htm

I love large corporations that practice what they preach.  Good thing that  
Web browsers are maintaining, uh... (subtracts in head), 19 years of  
backwards compatibility, and keep tabs on each other so that, say, Opera  
knows how MSHTML formats its attachments.  Alas, povray.org's software  
doesn't.  (Just continue using plain text and avoid the whole mess.)


-- 
<Insert witty .sig here>


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: My CNC router design
Date: 8 Mar 2009 00:40:02
Message: <49b35a32$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:24:44 -0400, Cousin Ricky wrote:

> On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:26:10 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:45:14 +0000, Rarius wrote:
>>
>>> It came through OK for me.
>>
>> It did here as well, but your post was a mix of plain text and HTML,
>> that's probably why clipka had problems with it.
> 
> It doesn't come through on the Web interface, though it works fine on my
> Web browser's integrated news reader.
> 
> I noticed that your news poster, "MSHTML" (I wonder who that is?), makes

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512

:-)

Jim


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From: Rarius
Subject: Re: My CNC router design
Date: 8 Mar 2009 06:01:24
Message: <49b39774$1@news.povray.org>
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512

Yes I do use Outlook Express for accessing Usenet newsgroups.

I apologise to everyone who had difficulty reading my original post. I 
accidentaly had HTML turned on for news posting. I have rectified this and 
should now be posting in plain text.

Rarius


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From: Rarius
Subject: Re: My CNC router design
Date: 8 Mar 2009 06:14:12
Message: <49b39a74@news.povray.org>
Here is a plain text post with a updated image of my CNC design.

Rarius


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From: Rarius
Subject: Re: My CNC router design
Date: 8 Mar 2009 06:21:52
Message: <49b39c40@news.povray.org>
> As always when designing such machinery, 'success lies in the 
> details'--the
> proper bearings, the elimination of mechanical backlash, etc.  I'm curious 
> as
> to what type of threaded drive shafts you plan on using?

The drive spindles are 12mm trapezoidal with a 3mm pitch 
(http://www.worldofcnc.com/products.asp?recnumber=61) running in bronze nuts 
(http://www.worldofcnc.com/products.asp?recnumber=47). The rails are 12mm, 
16mm and 20mm ground shafts 
(http://www.worldofcnc.com/products.asp?recnumber=14) running through linear 
bearings (http://www.worldofcnc.com/products.asp?recnumber=16).

I bought a job lot from eBay. It included four spindles, three pairs of 



> Something to be aware of (and this is from my own personal experience) is 
> that
> using *multiple* threaded shafts to drive a single axis can create 
> problems and
> headaches in trying to get things to work reliably (not insurmountable 
> ones, of
> course)-- the shafts need to be as parallel as is humanly possible--in two
> axes--so the moving platform doesn't 'lock up' at some point. Perhaps 
> you've
> taken that into account already.

You make a good point. Originally I was going to drive the two Z axis 
spindles with two stepper motors. By tying the two Z axis drives together 
with the toothed drive belt I don't beleive that I should have any problems 
such as you describe.

I have changed the system from driving the spindles so that the spindles are 
now locked in position and the nuts are rotated around them, thus pulling 
themselves along the spindle. This should remove any problems from the 
spindles wobbling as they turn and also removes the need for bearings at 
both ends!

I think the problem of "racking" on the X axis is more of a worry. Although 
not shown on the image I have decided to add a cable system like that used 
on large draftsmans drawing boards to stop any rotational movement as the 
carriage moves backwards and forwards along the X axis.

Rarius


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