Op 05/02/2021 om 17:02 schreef Alain Martel:
> Le 2021-02-04 à 03:06, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
>> Finally, after about four months.
>>
>> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the Late 
>> Romantic school and Genre pieces.
>>
>> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment 
>> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement 
>> tool in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come 
>> back too frequently.
>>
> 
> Master work !

Thank you!

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Op 05/02/2021 om 19:53 schreef ingo:
> in news:601bab05@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:
> 
>> Finally, after about four months.
>>
> 
> "Een mooi erf" in the dutch tradition.
> 
> Ingo
> 

LOL yes indeed! Everything was put 'spic en span' before I had set up my 
easel.

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Thomas

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Op 05/02/2021 om 15:52 schreef William F Pokorny:
> On 2/5/21 2:28 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> I have the intention to do also a stochastic render of the scene. I 
>> /think/ that would give a better result. 
> 
> Yes, that would be interesting to see. With the stochastic techniques 
> I'm always wondering how much is a better render result and how much 
> looks better because one has introduced noise. And if that last true, 
> even in part, might we add noise by some more efficient means. Anyway... 
> Always a thousand ideas.

I have started a stochastic render and so far it looks good: finer 
details becoming clearer. No special settings at this moment: +a0.1 
+ac0.95 +r3. I later want to see how, drastically decreasing +ac, will 
turn out. Noise should be more visible then.

> 
> I've been playing with more ideas using your image. Attaching three 
> images. In toBloomOrOther.jpg showing your original to my already posted 
> bloom filter image in the top row. In the middle row the bloom filter at 
> about 1/3 the aggressiveness of the top row. In the bottom row not 
> really bloom, but more adding noise by regional sampling about each 
> pixel. Less blur in the bottom two rows, but still maybe too much to 
> tastes.

I need to study those images a bit longer. Interesting stuff indeed.

> 
> While at that, Mr's question about adding more contrast knocked 
> something loose in my head and I had the thought, "what does average do 
> with negative weights...?" Well! Interesting stuff - about which I've 
> not completely wrapped my head.
> 
> You can use negative weights. If you get the balance right you can get 
> an image with more contrast with my bloom filter set up. Using:
> 
>       #declare PigmentMap00 = pigment_map {
>      [-1.0 Pigment1 ]
>      [-0.7 Pigment2 ]
>      [-0.6 Pigment3 ]
>      [+0.5 Pigment4 ]
>      [+0.4 Pigment5 ]
>      [+0.3 Pigment6 ]
>      [+0.2 Pigment7 ]
>      [+0.1 Pigment8 ]
> }
> #declare PigmMerge = pigment {
>      average
>      pigment_map { PigmentMap00 }
> }
> 
> I get the Contrast00.jpg image, which isn't traditional contrast, but 
> something more along the lines of tone mapping. Without even trying! I 
> find it amusing it's possible to stumble my way into such functionality. 
> :-) Aside: I shrank the image size because it got large even as a jpeg 
> due the detail popping out - the detail jr wanted to see and probably 
> still can't. ;-)

Jr is presently battling the sticky paint on his fingers. :-)

> 
> If you get the balance for contrast slightly wrong, other interesting 
> things happen. See Cartoon00.jpg. The only difference is the -0.6 weight 
> above was instead +0.6.

I like the Cartoon version!

> 
> Creating these last two images is fast supposing the eight image 
> pigments into the average function already exist. Whether with effort 
> and exploration techniques using negative average weights could be made 
> more finely controllable - in other words, truly usable - I don't know.
> 

I need to look close here. This is interesting.

> So many things to play with and so little time.

True. True. I am glad this image fires off the neurons.

> 
> Bill P.


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Thomas

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Am 04.02.2021 um 09:06 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> Finally, after about four months.
> 
> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the Late 
> Romantic school and Genre pieces.
> 
> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment 
> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement tool 
> in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come back too 
> frequently.
> 
A very nice image indeed. The road texture is perfect. Maybe the caps 
and the skirts of the maids are a lttle bit to clean and the cat seems 
to have the size of a lynx. But this are only small flaws to a very 
great image.

Congratulations
Michael

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On 2/7/2021 1:36 PM, MichaelJF wrote:
> Am 04.02.2021 um 09:06 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> Finally, after about four months.
>>
>> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the Late 
>> Romantic school and Genre pieces.
>>
>> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment 
>> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement 
>> tool in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come 
>> back too frequently.
>>
> A very nice image indeed. The road texture is perfect. Maybe the caps 
> and the skirts of the maids are a lttle bit to clean and the cat seems 
> to have the size of a lynx. But this are only small flaws to a very 
> great image.
> 
> Congratulations
> Michael


Nice image!

I thought it was a Schnauzer.


Mike

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Op 07/02/2021 om 19:36 schreef MichaelJF:
> Am 04.02.2021 um 09:06 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> Finally, after about four months.
>>
>> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the Late 
>> Romantic school and Genre pieces.
>>
>> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment 
>> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement 
>> tool in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come 
>> back too frequently.
>>
> A very nice image indeed. The road texture is perfect. Maybe the caps 
> and the skirts of the maids are a lttle bit to clean and the cat seems 
> to have the size of a lynx. But this are only small flaws to a very 
> great image.
> 
> Congratulations
> Michael


Thank you Michael!

What you see is an effect of perspective. The cat is cat-sized when it 
walks back to its mistress, asking for milk. So: illusion!

The caps are certainly /not/ too clean; maybe the lower edge of the 
skirts (which you can hardly see) or the aprons. However, this is not 
about naturalism and a denunciation of poor living conditions in the 
country side. ;-)

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Thomas

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Op 07/02/2021 om 23:27 schreef Mike Horvath:
> On 2/7/2021 1:36 PM, MichaelJF wrote:
>> Am 04.02.2021 um 09:06 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>>> Finally, after about four months.
>>>
>>> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the 
>>> Late Romantic school and Genre pieces.
>>>
>>> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment 
>>> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement 
>>> tool in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come 
>>> back too frequently.
>>>
>> A very nice image indeed. The road texture is perfect. Maybe the caps 
>> and the skirts of the maids are a lttle bit to clean and the cat seems 
>> to have the size of a lynx. But this are only small flaws to a very 
>> great image.
>>
>> Congratulations
>> Michael
> 
> 
> Nice image!
> 
> I thought it was a Schnauzer.
> 
> 
> Mike


LOL no. Just a cat. Perspective playing tricks.

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Thomas de Groot wrote on 04/02/2021 09:06:
> Finally, after about four months.
> 
> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the Late 
> Romantic school and Genre pieces.
> 
> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment 
> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement tool 
> in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come back too 
> frequently.
> 

The mood is incredibly... beautiful.
Bravo!

Paolo

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Op 08/02/2021 om 11:15 schreef Paolo Gibellini:
> Thomas de Groot wrote on 04/02/2021 09:06:
>> Finally, after about four months.
>>
>> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the Late 
>> Romantic school and Genre pieces.
>>
>> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment 
>> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement 
>> tool in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come 
>> back too frequently.
>>
> 
> The mood is incredibly... beautiful.
> Bravo!
> 
> Paolo

Thank you indeed, Paolo.

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Second state of the scene, this time rendered with stochastic aa. Took 
about 16 hours on an i5 laptop (for what it's worth). The quality is 
slightly better, especially where small twigs are concerned. I probably 
could use even better settings but I do not want to wait much longer for 
a render as other things are pressing.

Following Bill's comment about Sam Benge's Luminous Bloom, I dusted the 
facility off, adapted it to latest pov version (gamma and emission) and 
tweaked the settings until I got this somewhat painterly output. I like 
it but am not going to experiment much further at present.

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