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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 3 Dec 2020 14:10:00
Message: <web.5fc93767fc5816461f9dae300@news.povray.org>
MichaelJF <mi-### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
> Am 03.12.2020 um 17:27 schrieb Ash Holsenback:
> > i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
> Very nice,
>
> how did you model the background and the colloseum-like mirrored
> structure in your tea-pot?

He didn't - it's an HDRI light source.  I have the same one.
Not sure what the URL for that specific one is, but it's a pretty standard way
to instantly add a ton of richness to an image or object even if the backround
or its reflections can't be clearly seen.

A similar site for HDR sources:
https://hdrihaven.com/hdris/?c=all

> I think your image is a simple modeled teapot between two photographies.

It is, but it's inside a spherical image which provides the scene lighting and
the richness of the varied light sources and reflections.
http://www.f-lohmueller.de/pov_tut/backgrnd/p_sky10.htm

> Really a nice image, but not really created with POV, IMO.


Well, it is, even though the light source wasn't created from scratch.
What is "created in POV-Ray" can be debated endlessly.

I use code snippets, include files, image_maps, formulas, and all other manner
of pre-existing tools to shove the image out the other end of the work-flow,
before I lose the time/energy/opportunity.  There's also the metric ton of
under-the-hood stuff that's already encoded into POV-Ray that I don't write from
scratch.
I've encountered people who have made the claim that "I didn't do xyz "myself"
since the procedural texture was already programmed into POV-Ray...

I suppose I could do it in ShaderToy, and then I'd write the camera, the light
source, the shadowing, texturing, etc all myself.....

It's still a nice teapot and pleasing image.
Nice work, Jim.


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From: David Buck
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 3 Dec 2020 21:43:51
Message: <5fc9a267$1@news.povray.org>
Wow, that's amazing.

David Buck


On 2020-12-03 11:27 a.m., Ash Holsenback wrote:
> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 02:25:48
Message: <5fc9e47c@news.povray.org>
Op 03/12/2020 om 17:27 schreef Ash Holsenback:
> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...

Always fascinating to discover in what kind of environments teapots 
appear... ;-)

Well done sir.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Ash Holsenback
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 04:38:41
Message: <5fca03a1@news.povray.org>
On 12/3/20 1:45 PM, Alain Martel wrote:
> Le 2020-12-03 à 13:25, MichaelJF a écrit :
>> Am 03.12.2020 um 17:27 schrieb Ash Holsenback:
>>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
>> Very nice,
>>
>> how did you model the background and the colloseum-like mirrored 
>> structure in your tea-pot?
>>
>> The background can only be modeled with xfrog and with some months 
>> work to model all the differences between the plants if one didn't use 
>> a photography simply.
>>
>> I think your image is a simple modeled teapot between two photographies.
>>
>> Really a nice image, but not really created with POV, IMO.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Michael
> The background is not modelled, it's an HDR light probe.
> 
http://www.hdrlabs.com/sibl/archive.html


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From: Ash Holsenback
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 04:43:48
Message: <5fca04d4$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/3/20 2:07 PM, Bald Eagle wrote:
> It's still a nice teapot and pleasing image.
> Nice work, Jim.

danke... using it as an aladins lamp


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From: Ash Holsenback
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 04:44:57
Message: <5fca0519$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/3/20 9:43 PM, David Buck wrote:
> Wow, that's amazing.
> 
> David Buck
> 
> 
> On 2020-12-03 11:27 a.m., Ash Holsenback wrote:
>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
> 
thanks... it's still a wip


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From: Ash Holsenback
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 04:49:10
Message: <5fca0616$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/4/20 2:25 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Op 03/12/2020 om 17:27 schreef Ash Holsenback:
>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
> 
> Always fascinating to discover in what kind of environments teapots 
> appear... ;-)
> 
> Well done sir.
> 

i'm going to use the oreo cookie, antichron and lamp (and perhaps one 
other object)... non-related items, juxtaposition ... not sure of the 
artistic term


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From: Mr
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 06:10:01
Message: <web.5fca17f9fc5816466adeaecb0@news.povray.org>
Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
> On 12/4/20 2:25 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> > Op 03/12/2020 om 17:27 schreef Ash Holsenback:
> >> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
> >
> > Always fascinating to discover in what kind of environments teapots
> > appear... ;-)
> >
> > Well done sir.
> >
>
> i'm going to use the oreo cookie, antichron and lamp (and perhaps one
> other object)... non-related items, juxtaposition ... not sure of the
> artistic term

Indeed, ... "composition?"  Can't wait to see the story telling image to come
with that awesome teapot. How was it modeled? it has a lot of style And material
color is spot on. Can't say if some kind of Maillechort / brand new silver...
but it does feel real... And (pixarish) cartoony at the same time :-)


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From: Ash Holsenback
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 06:32:09
Message: <5fca1e39@news.povray.org>
On 12/4/20 6:06 AM, Mr wrote:
> Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
>> On 12/4/20 2:25 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> Op 03/12/2020 om 17:27 schreef Ash Holsenback:
>>>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
>>>
>>> Always fascinating to discover in what kind of environments teapots
>>> appear... ;-)
>>>
>>> Well done sir.
>>>
>>
>> i'm going to use the oreo cookie, antichron and lamp (and perhaps one
>> other object)... non-related items, juxtaposition ... not sure of the
>> artistic term
> 
> Indeed, ... "composition?"  Can't wait to see the story telling image to come
> with that awesome teapot. How was it modeled? it has a lot of style And material
> color is spot on. Can't say if some kind of Maillechort / brand new silver...
> but it does feel real... And (pixarish) cartoony at the same time :-)
> 
> 
i like this color better. makes it look more like a lamp. got the model 
on thingverse... ran it through blender and poseray. i've been working 
on the pedestal too. obviously no focal blur this time


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From: Mr
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 07:00:00
Message: <web.5fca2406fc5816466adeaecb0@news.povray.org>
Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
> On 12/4/20 6:06 AM, Mr wrote:
> > Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
> >> On 12/4/20 2:25 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> >>> Op 03/12/2020 om 17:27 schreef Ash Holsenback:
> >>>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
> >>>
> >>> Always fascinating to discover in what kind of environments teapots
> >>> appear... ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Well done sir.
> >>>
> >>
> >> i'm going to use the oreo cookie, antichron and lamp (and perhaps one
> >> other object)... non-related items, juxtaposition ... not sure of the
> >> artistic term
> >
> > Indeed, ... "composition?"  Can't wait to see the story telling image to come
> > with that awesome teapot. How was it modeled? it has a lot of style And material
> > color is spot on. Can't say if some kind of Maillechort / brand new silver...
> > but it does feel real... And (pixarish) cartoony at the same time :-)
> >
> >
> i like this color better. makes it look more like a lamp. got the model
> on thingverse... ran it through blender and poseray. i've been working
> on the pedestal too. obviously no focal blur this time

still looks great to me, but you should draft the scene with all objects as
early as possible to get the composition right, layout object where viewer 's
eye will find dynamic and interesting to get back... hard thing to do when some
details are already in that you don't want to hide anymore so keep them visible
at all cost just becaus you took time for them... Layout to compose with the
negative spaces and waht will the averall combination of silhouettes draw...
Hard thing, or maybe there's just these two objects?


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