On 24-4-2015 13:29, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Stating the obvious, with spline:
>

"Elementary, my dear Watson."

The problem did not reside with the spline but with the fact that the 
guide spline cut through the landscape surface. Thus, the Blockwall 
macro became nuts trying to use the trace() function.

Solved.

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On 25-4-2015 9:13, Stephen wrote:
> On 25/04/2015 07:55, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 24-4-2015 17:03, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 24/04/2015 15:27, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> On 24-4-2015 14:22, Stephen wrote:
>>>>> On 24/04/2015 12:15, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>>> To give an idea of the direction I want to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Go West, young man. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Aye, me laird :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't let the sheep loose on your way out. ;_)
>>
>> What sheep? I see no sheep, except the Minister's. :-)
>>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Clearances#Year_of_the_Sheep

Thanks indeed! I love that kind of historical information. Somehow, it 
finds back its way into a scene or another. The painting of Rosa Bonheur 
is typical. 19th century ray-tracing! ;-) It would be interesting to 
work on that.

The captions says "about 1860", the signature clearly states "1850".

>
>
>>>
>>> You are becoming quite proficient with that slope pattern. If you don't
>>> mind me saying. :-)
>>>
>> Hm. It is a huge effort of trial and error each time
>
> Art not science then?

Certainly not ;-)

>
>> but using primary
>> colours first to get your bearings in each scene is a trick I can
>> recommend.
>>
>
> Yes, of course. I use Cyan with an ambient of 1 for the default texture.
> So that anything that I have missed texturing shows up.
>
Yes, and with trace(), using a pigment_map with different contrasting 
colours will show where the final hues will appear. They can then easily 
be manipulated into the right combination.

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On 25-4-2015 9:13, Stephen wrote:
> On 25/04/2015 07:55, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 24-4-2015 17:03, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 24/04/2015 15:27, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> On 24-4-2015 14:22, Stephen wrote:
>>>>> On 24/04/2015 12:15, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>>> To give an idea of the direction I want to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Go West, young man. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Aye, me laird :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't let the sheep loose on your way out. ;_)
>>
>> What sheep? I see no sheep, except the Minister's. :-)
>>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Clearances#Year_of_the_Sheep

Thanks indeed! I love that kind of historical information. Somehow, it 
finds back its way into a scene or another. The painting of Rosa Bonheur 
is typical. 19th century ray-tracing! ;-) It would be interesting to 
work on that.

The captions says "about 1860", the signature clearly states "1850".

>
>
>>>
>>> You are becoming quite proficient with that slope pattern. If you don't
>>> mind me saying. :-)
>>>
>> Hm. It is a huge effort of trial and error each time
>
> Art not science then?

Certainly not ;-)

>
>> but using primary
>> colours first to get your bearings in each scene is a trick I can
>> recommend.
>>
>
> Yes, of course. I use Cyan with an ambient of 1 for the default texture.
> So that anything that I have missed texturing shows up.
>
Yes, and with trace(), using a pigment_map with different contrasting 
colours will show where the final hues will appear. They can then easily 
be manipulated into the right combination.

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On 25/04/2015 08:33, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 25-4-2015 9:13, Stephen wrote:

>
> Thanks indeed! I love that kind of historical information. Somehow, it
> finds back its way into a scene or another.The painting of Rosa Bonheur
> is typical. 19th century ray-tracing! ;-) It would be interesting to
> work on that.
>

Did you forget to say things backward? ;-)
I am not too sure if you mean Rosa Bonheur's paintings or the painting 
of her by Édouard Dubufe?

19th century ray-tracing! - Camera obscura?


>>
>> Art not science then?
>
> Certainly not ;-)
>

More like black magic to me. :-)


>>
> Yes, and with trace(), using a pigment_map with different contrasting
> colours will show where the final hues will appear. They can then easily
> be manipulated into the right combination.
>

I might dispute the "easily" bit. :-)

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On 24/04/15 12:15, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> To give an idea of the direction I want to go.
> 
> Somehow, the wall* in the forefront is cut short despite the spline
> going further. No idea why. I thought it could be an epsilon artefact...
> 
> 
> * Chris B's Blockwall used here.

Posting a bit late, so you've sorted the wall problem.

The castle is perfect; however, I'm a little bit concerned about the
straightness of the field walls - a drunken McAvoy would never have
produced such.

<offers a large quaich of Glenmorangie to Stephen/>

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On 25/04/2015 10:39, Doctor John wrote:
> a drunken McAvoy

A sober McAvoy would never go near dry stain dyking. Too much like hard 
work.

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On 25-4-2015 10:31, Stephen wrote:
> On 25/04/2015 08:33, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 25-4-2015 9:13, Stephen wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks indeed! I love that kind of historical information. Somehow, it
>> finds back its way into a scene or another.The painting of Rosa Bonheur
>> is typical. 19th century ray-tracing! ;-) It would be interesting to
>> work on that.
>>
>
> Did you forget to say things backward? ;-)
> I am not too sure if you mean Rosa Bonheur's paintings or the painting
> of her by Édouard Dubufe?

Typical! I mean /by/ Rosa Bonheur ;-)

>
> 19th century ray-tracing! - Camera obscura?

That and the genre painting, like Ilya Repin for instance.

>
>
>>>
>>> Art not science then?
>>
>> Certainly not ;-)
>>
>
> More like black magic to me. :-)

There is a distinct flavour of that too.

>
>
>>>
>> Yes, and with trace(), using a pigment_map with different contrasting
>> colours will show where the final hues will appear. They can then easily
>> be manipulated into the right combination.
>>
>
> I might dispute the "easily" bit. :-)
>
You are perfectly right of course. More often than not, I don't know 
what I am doing.

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On 25-4-2015 11:39, Doctor John wrote:
> Posting a bit late, so you've sorted the wall problem.

I did. Just a stupid mistake.

>
> The castle is perfect; however, I'm a little bit concerned about the
> straightness of the field walls - a drunken McAvoy would never have
> produced such.

These walls were a first proof of concept. A bit more irregularity is in 
order indeed. I don't want to think about a drunk McAvoy though. 
However, the walls may control his progress home ;-)

>
> <offers a large quaich of Glenmorangie to Stephen/>

Warms the soul if not the body.

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On 25/04/2015 12:14, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> I don't want to think about a drunk McAvoy though.

Don't fret yourself. You probably wouldn't notice the difference.

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On 25/04/15 12:14, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> 
> I don't want to think about a drunk McAvoy though.
> However, the walls may control his progress home ;-)
> 
... and even help us to demonstrate the Ideal Gas Laws (at least in the
proof that I learnt in school)

>>
>> <offers a large quaich of Glenmorangie to Stephen/>
> 
> Warms the soul if not the body.
> 

Thinking about this, how about an empty bottle somewhere near the wall
(or dyke as Stephen insists on calling it). A comatose Ileach would also
be a great addition ;-)

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On 25/04/2015 12:08, Thomas de Groot wrote:

>
> Typical! I mean /by/ Rosa Bonheur ;-)
>
>>
>> 19th century ray-tracing! - Camera obscura?
>
> That and the genre painting, like Ilya Repin for instance.
>

He is new to me. Thanks.
A quick google and I like his impressionist style. Subtly different from 
the western style. The painting with serfs bring an image of Modest 
Mussorgsky's Khovanshchina (opera) to my mind.

You could almost describe their work as "chocolate box" but it isn't.


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On 25-4-2015 13:40, Stephen wrote:
> On 25/04/2015 12:08, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
>>
>> Typical! I mean /by/ Rosa Bonheur ;-)
>>
>>>
>>> 19th century ray-tracing! - Camera obscura?
>>
>> That and the genre painting, like Ilya Repin for instance.
>>
>
> He is new to me. Thanks.
> A quick google and I like his impressionist style. Subtly different from
> the western style. The painting with serfs bring an image of Modest
> Mussorgsky's Khovanshchina (opera) to my mind.

Oh yes, absolutely. Look at "The barge haulers on the Volga" and you 
will hear the song:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Song_of_the_Volga_Boatmen

I learned it from a recording by the Soviet Army Choir, back in the 
sixties :-)

     Эй, ухнем!
     Эй, ухнем!
     Ещё разик, ещё да раз!

>
> You could almost describe their work as "chocolate box" but it isn't.
>

It isn't indeed. There is that subtle difference that separates art from 
kitsch.

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On 25-4-2015 13:31, Doctor John wrote:
> Thinking about this, how about an empty bottle somewhere near the wall
> (or dyke as Stephen insists on calling it). A comatose Ileach would also
> be a great addition ;-)

Now, you /really/ want me to do a genre piece!

Not that I wouldn't be tempted of course...


Which brings me to the following question: Croft houses today seem 
traditionally to be painted white. Old restored ones however appear 
often unpainted. My preference is for the latter in this scene, or I 
could do a mix.

What do you think?

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On 25/04/15 13:11, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Which brings me to the following question: Croft houses today seem
> traditionally to be painted white. Old restored ones however appear
> often unpainted. My preference is for the latter in this scene, or I
> could do a mix.
> 
> What do you think?
> 

From what I remember, in general crofters' cottages would normally be
left unpainted. If you think about it, to paint a cottage would require
that you first plaster the outer walls - a waste of resources and
energy. Only the rich would be able to afford it.

Sample image attached

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On 25-4-2015 15:29, Doctor John wrote:
>  From what I remember, in general crofters' cottages would normally be
> left unpainted. If you think about it, to paint a cottage would require
> that you first plaster the outer walls - a waste of resources and
> energy. Only the rich would be able to afford it.
>

Makes sense. I think that the present day trend is of a recent date and 
has more to do with tourism, wealthy owners, and such, than with 
historically accurate interpretations.

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On 25/04/2015 15:07, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 25-4-2015 15:29, Doctor John wrote:
>>  From what I remember, in general crofters' cottages would normally be
>> left unpainted. If you think about it, to paint a cottage would require
>> that you first plaster the outer walls - a waste of resources and
>> energy. Only the rich would be able to afford it.
>>
>
> Makes sense. I think that the present day trend is of a recent date and
> has more to do with tourism, wealthy owners, and such, than with
> historically accurate interpretations.
>

I'll write that in my diary.
Today on the 25th of April. Dr John made sense.

An other thing about crofts. They were often sunk into the ground. By 
that I mean the floor level would be a few feet below the ground level. 
This reduced the height and exposure to the weather.

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On 25/04/15 15:48, Stephen wrote:
> 
> I'll write that in my diary.
> Today on the 25th of April. Dr John made sense.
> 

Dr John makes sense all the time. Your inability to follow his
high-level arguments is not his problem ;-)
(another Glenmorangie? this includes you as well, Thomas; not the reply,
the offer of a reasonable whisky)

> An other thing about crofts. They were often sunk into the ground. By
> that I mean the floor level would be a few feet below the ground level.
> This reduced the height and exposure to the weather.
> 

...also, notice the net and the stones used to hold the thatch down.

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Doctor John <j.g### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Dr John makes sense all the time. Your inability to follow his
> high-level arguments is not his problem ;-)
> (another Glenmorangie? this includes you as well, Thomas; not the reply,
> the offer of a reasonable whisky)

Kilchoman should serve better here.

The image is developing very fine. I guess Thomas will still add molehills to
the greens.

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On 25/04/2015 21:33, Doctor John wrote:
> On 25/04/15 15:48, Stephen wrote:
>>
>> I'll write that in my diary.
>> Today on the 25th of April. Dr John made sense.
>>
>
> Dr John makes sense all the time.

Does the Kat agree? :-P

> Your inability to follow his
> high-level arguments is not his problem ;-)

True you have bigger problems than that.
Me and my brothers use m/c code.

> (another Glenmorangie? this includes you as well, Thomas; not the reply,
> the offer of a reasonable whisky)
>

Can I have some lemonade in mine?

Just for Yadgar

Listening to Interstellar Overdrive - The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn

(I have bike. You can ride it if you like. :-) )






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On 25/04/15 22:14, MichaelJF wrote:
> 
> Kilchoman should serve better here.
> 

Unfortunately, Stephen does not enjoy the subtlety of the Islay
whiskies, hence I offered him something more suited to his undeveloped
palate.
BTW I haven't tasted Kilchoman yet, but I look forward to tracking it
down and trying it.

Slàinte mhath

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On 25/04/15 22:41, Stephen wrote:
> On 25/04/2015 21:33, Doctor John wrote:
>> On 25/04/15 15:48, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll write that in my diary.
>>> Today on the 25th of April. Dr John made sense.
>>>
>>
>> Dr John makes sense all the time.
> 
> Does the Kat agree? :-P
> 

Sometimes ;-)

>> Your inability to follow his
>> high-level arguments is not his problem ;-)
> 
> True you have bigger problems than that.
> Me and my brothers use m/c code.
> 
>> (another Glenmorangie? this includes you as well, Thomas; not the reply,
>> the offer of a reasonable whisky)
>>
> 
> Can I have some lemonade in mine?

Peasant!!

> 
> Just for Yadgar
> 
> Listening to Interstellar Overdrive - The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn
> 
> (I have bike. You can ride it if you like. :-) )

Umm, that's:
I've got a bike
You can ride it if you like
It's got a basket, a bell that rings
And things to make it look good

Dammit, man. I've just had to fire up Clementine to listen to it :-)

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On 25/04/2015 22:50, Doctor John wrote:
> On 25/04/15 22:41, Stephen wrote:
>> On 25/04/2015 21:33, Doctor John wrote:
>>> On 25/04/15 15:48, Stephen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'll write that in my diary.
>>>> Today on the 25th of April. Dr John made sense.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dr John makes sense all the time.
>>
>> Does the Kat agree? :-P
>>
>
> Sometimes ;-)
>

Makes perfect sense.


>>>
>>
>> Can I have some lemonade in mine?
>
> Peasant!!
>

Your true self is showing.

"See the violence inherent in the system."

BTW have you been listening to Hut 33, set in Bletchley Park?
Radio 4 extra.


> I've got a bike
> You can ride it if you like
> It's got a basket, a bell that rings
> And things to make it look good
>
> Dammit, man. I've just had to fire up Clementine to listen to it :-)
>


Whatever you do in the privacy of your own home. has nothing to do with me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b3coO_6MwY

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On 25-4-2015 22:33, Doctor John wrote:
> On 25/04/15 15:48, Stephen wrote:
>>
>> I'll write that in my diary.
>> Today on the 25th of April. Dr John made sense.
>>
>
> Dr John makes sense all the time. Your inability to follow his
> high-level arguments is not his problem ;-)
> (another Glenmorangie? this includes you as well, Thomas; not the reply,
> the offer of a reasonable whisky)

Yes please, thank you. I like those different flavours caressing my palate.

>
>> An other thing about crofts. They were often sunk into the ground. By
>> that I mean the floor level would be a few feet below the ground level.
>> This reduced the height and exposure to the weather.

I suspected as much, at least for some of the photographs I have seen.

>
> ...also, notice the net and the stones used to hold the thatch down.

Yes, I did notice them and shall have to add them to the model(s) I am 
building. Not that they will be particularly visible considering the 
scale of the scene, but they may serve again in the future and there is 
some foreground I have to provide for too.

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On 25-4-2015 23:14, MichaelJF wrote:
> Doctor John <j.g### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> Dr John makes sense all the time. Your inability to follow his
>> high-level arguments is not his problem ;-)
>> (another Glenmorangie? this includes you as well, Thomas; not the reply,
>> the offer of a reasonable whisky)
>
> Kilchoman should serve better here.

I did not know that one. Google shows me it is a fairly young distillery.

>
> The image is developing very fine. I guess Thomas will still add molehills to
> the greens.

That is something I have to consider seriously indeed ;-)
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Progress report: Present modelling stage of croft house in scene setting.

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Le 28/04/2015 14:14, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
> Progress report: Present modelling stage of croft house in scene setting.
> 
Good job, it must be hard to select the sea-area in photoshop to fill it
in blue, its shape is so difficult. You did not miss even the smallest
pixel. :-J

Impressive.

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On 28-4-2015 15:32, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Le 28/04/2015 14:14, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
>> Progress report: Present modelling stage of croft house in scene setting.
>>
> Good job, it must be hard to select the sea-area in photoshop to fill it
> in blue, its shape is so difficult. You did not miss even the smallest
> pixel. :-J

True indeed. The house took me a couple of hours but the sea took me the 
best part of the last two weeks with finest brush I could select in 
Photoshop  :-)

>
> Impressive.
>

And you have not seen the fish yet.

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On 28/04/2015 13:14, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Progress report: Present modelling stage of croft house in scene setting.
>

AWESOME Crofting. :-)

Nothing else to add.

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> >
> > Kilchoman should serve better here.
>
> I did not know that one. Google shows me it is a fairly young distillery.
>
> >
Indeed founded 2005 stated by Wikipedia. This year they have their first 6 years
bottled release out. If you like whisky it is worth a try. I just purchased my
first bottle....

Best regards,
Michael

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On 28-4-2015 18:08, Stephen wrote:
> On 28/04/2015 13:14, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Progress report: Present modelling stage of croft house in scene setting.
>>
>
> AWESOME Crofting. :-)
>
> Nothing else to add.
>

I have a couple of others coming.

Note that while they look great at a distances, they may become 
disappointing at close range. I try to get the best of both worlds. ;-)

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Thomas de Groot wrote on 28/04/2015 14.14:
> Progress report: Present modelling stage of croft house in scene setting.
>
Charming.
Paolo

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Progress report: Present modelling stage of croft house in scene setting.
>
> --
> Thomas

Wow, cool!
It is cute and fresh.

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On 1-5-2015 8:23, And wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> Progress report: Present modelling stage of croft house in scene setting.
>>
>> --
>> Thomas
>
> Wow, cool!
> It is cute and fresh.
>
>

<grin> Thanks. Fresh from the modeller indeed; I can imagine however 
that living there would be dark and dank.

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On 01/05/2015 08:06, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> I can imagine however that living there would be dark and dank.

And you would get drooket. :-)

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On 1-5-2015 9:45, Stephen wrote:
> On 01/05/2015 08:06, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> I can imagine however that living there would be dark and dank.
>
> And you would get drooket. :-)
>

Inside too? Leaky thatch... but there's a hole in my...

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On 02/05/2015 15:40, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 1-5-2015 9:45, Stephen wrote:
>> On 01/05/2015 08:06, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> I can imagine however that living there would be dark and dank.
>>
>> And you would get drooket. :-)
>>
>
> Inside too? Leaky thatch... but there's a hole in my...
>

LOL

But you don't get me like that.
Again. ;-)

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At this stage, three different types of croft houses have been modelled, 
and a church inspired by St kiaran's on Islay.

Next: rebuilding and extending the stone walls, village building.

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On 11/05/2015 12:14, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> At this stage, three different types of croft houses have been modelled,
> and a church inspired by St kiaran's on Islay.
>
> Next: rebuilding and extending the stone walls, village building.
>

It is getting a bit too AWSOME ;-)

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On 11-5-2015 13:55, Stephen wrote:
> It is getting a bit too AWSOME ;-)
>

on my way to the uncanny valley :-)

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Thomas de Groot wrote on 11/05/2015 13.14:
> At this stage, three different types of croft houses have been modelled,
> and a church inspired by St kiaran's on Islay.
>
> Next: rebuilding and extending the stone walls, village building.
>
...and adding some sheep ;-)
A very nice image!
Paolo

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On 11/05/2015 14:53, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 11-5-2015 13:55, Stephen wrote:
>> It is getting a bit too AWSOME ;-)
>>
>
> on my way to the uncanny valley :-)
>

The Glaikit Glen my gallus lad. :-)

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On 11-5-2015 15:57, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
> ...and adding some sheep ;-)
> A very nice image!
> Paolo

Livestock (human/animal) will be flown in last.

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On 11-5-2015 16:08, Stephen wrote:
> On 11/05/2015 14:53, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 11-5-2015 13:55, Stephen wrote:
>>> It is getting a bit too AWSOME ;-)
>>>
>>
>> on my way to the uncanny valley :-)
>>
>
> The Glaikit Glen my gallus lad. :-)
>

Appropriate term indeed. The Glaikit Glen it will be henceforward.

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On 11/05/15 12:14, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> At this stage, three different types of croft houses have been modelled,
> and a church inspired by St kiaran's on Islay.
> 
> Next: rebuilding and extending the stone walls, village building.
> 

I am, as ever, in total awe.

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Le 11/05/2015 13:14, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
> At this stage, three different types of croft houses have been
> modelled, and a church inspired by St kiaran's on Islay.
> 
> Next: rebuilding and extending the stone walls, village building.
> 

Sanity check: orientation of church / sun ?

Traditional church in Europe, when not constrained by local
foundation, have usually main door to the west, and choir on the east.

the shadow on the house gives a high enough already sun, it seems
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On 11/05/2015 17:14, Le_Forgeron wrote:
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> Le 11/05/2015 13:14, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
>> At this stage, three different types of croft houses have been
>> modelled, and a church inspired by St kiaran's on Islay.
>>
>> Next: rebuilding and extending the stone walls, village building.
>>
>
> Sanity check: orientation of church / sun ?
>
> Traditional church in Europe, when not constrained by local
> foundation, have usually main door to the west, and choir on the east.
>

Another sanity check. St Kiaran's is church of Scotland. They don't hold 
with Popery. (Anglican is less than one step away btw.) The actual Kirk 
is oriented North, South leaving the entrance to the East in the lea of 
the Westerly winds.

> the shadow on the house gives a high enough already sun, it seems
> unlikely to be full east.
>

It could be given the latitude of the Western Isles.

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Regards
     Stephen

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> At this stage, three different types of croft houses have been modelled,
> and a church inspired by St kiaran's on Islay.
>
> Next: rebuilding and extending the stone walls, village building.
>
> --
> Thomas

Very beautiful landscape!
What is the time the render takes? And, what processor?

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On 11-5-2015 21:24, LanuHum wrote:
> Very beautiful landscape!
> What is the time the render takes? And, what processor?
>

The complete parsing/render time for this image took somewhat in excess 
of 1 hour, radiosity included. Slowest part is the water media.

System: HP Pavilion Elite HPE Core i7-2600 @ 3.40 GHz. I used only 6 of 
the 8 threads available. I always keep 2 threads free for other work.


-- 
Thomas

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On 11-5-2015 19:28, Stephen wrote:
> On 11/05/2015 17:14, Le_Forgeron wrote:
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>> Le 11/05/2015 13:14, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
>>> At this stage, three different types of croft houses have been
>>> modelled, and a church inspired by St kiaran's on Islay.
>>>
>>> Next: rebuilding and extending the stone walls, village building.
>>>
>>
>> Sanity check: orientation of church / sun ?
>>
>> Traditional church in Europe, when not constrained by local
>> foundation, have usually main door to the west, and choir on the east.
>>
>
> Another sanity check. St Kiaran's is church of Scotland. They don't hold
> with Popery. (Anglican is less than one step away btw.) The actual Kirk
> is oriented North, South leaving the entrance to the East in the lea of
> the Westerly winds.
>
>> the shadow on the house gives a high enough already sun, it seems
>> unlikely to be full east.
>>
>
> It could be given the latitude of the Western Isles.
>

Very true. The truth here is that I did not care about orientation, only 
about how it would look in the landscape. That said, we do not know what 
the geographic orientation of the landscape is, do we? As far as the Sun 
is concerned, I can indeed give it the latitude of the Western Isles. I 
have not yet used sun.inc in this scene and maybe I won't as I am fairly 
satisfied with the present illumination however.

Interestingly, and to my surprise, St Kiaran's church has not the 
complete plan form of a cross. It is missing the western transept. Was 
it lack of money? I have not found an explanation. Needless to say, I 
corrected that flaw ;-)

-- 
Thomas

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On 11-5-2015 17:21, Doctor John wrote:
>
> I am, as ever, in total awe.
>

Thank you :-)


-- 
Thomas

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